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KA-T_240 · 12-12-2007, 03:11 PM

I was looking at this and it seams to be a very good product. Especailly for people with fairly basic setups. And a way better alternative to those looking for AFC's. I think it is somewhat similar to greddy E-manage(which from what I have scene fails for 240s)

http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory...CategoryID=116

Who has experience with and and what do you think about it?

In my opinion, it looks to have WAY more options, more adjustability, and to be safer(tuning wise) then an AFC. I have no first hand experience with it yet. Its a bit more expensive, then a AFC, but..........

steve shadows · 12-12-2007, 04:07 PM

I heard it's good...but I havent used one yet.

I really prefer something that allows to you adjust the timing table for real values though.

Not manipulate a signal.

However this would be the best way to do it because you are manipulating the OUT signal, not the IN to the ecu.

KA-T_240 · 12-12-2007, 04:19 PM

I plan on running calum tune. I brought this up cause i was having a discussion with kringlers and he was looking at gettign one of these for his S14SR

wonkuuzenki · 12-12-2007, 06:13 PM

Fuck Gayem.
it's all about APC.

Just kidding. all in all it is a ECU that has great adjustibilty and tuning options for being a piggyback ECU. A friend of mine is running one with no problems whatsoever. I would definetly look into it.

And as far as Greddy E-Manage being junk i would definetly not go as far as to say that. It's all in the tuning on that one.

KA-T_240 · 12-13-2007, 12:34 AM

I didn't mean to really call it "junk". Everyone over on KA-T that has had it gave up, with using it on their KA-T setups. We shall see, my friend just bought it for his KA-T setup maybe they changed something. I think it was the sameway for the SR20 as well. But I have scene them do good things on other applications.

*Nismoknightska-t* · 12-13-2007, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mach5camaross

I didn't mean to really call it "junk". Everyone over on KA-T that has had it gave up, with using it on their KA-T setups. We shall see, my friend just bought it for his KA-T setup maybe they changed something. I think it was the sameway for the SR20 as well. But I have scene them do good things on other applications.

yup Greddy E-Manage is the worst!!! i wasted to much money on that pos..

The new aem unit does look good.. I thought about buying it.. but i didnt want to be one of the first people to have intill all the bugs are worked out.. so thats why I went aem ems..

trsilvias13 · 12-13-2007, 11:06 AM

FYI, there is a difference from greddy emanage blue and greddy emanage ultimate. Everyone given up on the Blue, but the ultimate, there is still a crowd that runs it.

***S14DB*** · 12-13-2007, 11:18 AM

Any Clamping tuning solution(SAFC,Emanage) is junk.

The nice thing about the AEM PIC is that it takes the factory signal and remaps it. Generating it's own signal instead of trimming(clamping) the factory signal.

Nissans tend to adjust their timing based on the MAP/MAF inputs. Clamping them tends to lead to unwanted timing advance. Which is why people blow their engines even though they were pig rich.

Doluck · 12-13-2007, 11:32 AM

I have used the E Manage Ulti with very good luck.
The problem from what I have seen, seems to be that every one wants to crank up the sample rate to max on it and over works it, then they get mad when it acts up.... Its not a standalone and its not a high end peice.. but it will do the job very well if you know what your doing.

But for that price range.... i would get the AEM..... hehe

mothon · 12-13-2007, 02:12 PM

I am also interested in the aem piggyback, but its been out for a while now and i still havnt heard of anyone actually installing one on a 240. What motor are you using??? KA? Sr? Im assuming ka

johngriff · 12-13-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Doluck

I have used the E Manage Ulti with very good luck.
The problem from what I have seen, seems to be that every one wants to crank up the sample rate to max on it and over works it, then they get mad when it acts up.... Its not a standalone and its not a high end peice.. but it will do the job very well if you know what your doing.

But for that price range.... i would get the AEM..... hehe

Where is this sample rate crank up maximum?

I haven't seen it, like OVERCLOCKING IT?

That would be sick, I wonder if I can upgrade the heatsink, do some watercooling and stuff some ddr upgrades in there.

Links to Said people doing said things, or I call shenanegans.

12-12-2007, 03:11 PM	#1
KA-T_240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Moorhead, MN Age: 38 Posts: 1,788 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	AEM "piggy back" I was looking at this and it seams to be a very good product. Especailly for people with fairly basic setups. And a way better alternative to those looking for AFC's. I think it is somewhat similar to greddy E-manage(which from what I have scene fails for 240s) http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory...CategoryID=116 Who has experience with and and what do you think about it? In my opinion, it looks to have WAY more options, more adjustability, and to be safer(tuning wise) then an AFC. I have no first hand experience with it yet. Its a bit more expensive, then a AFC, but.......... __________________

12-12-2007, 04:07 PM	#2
steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I heard it's good...but I havent used one yet. I really prefer something that allows to you adjust the timing table for real values though. Not manipulate a signal. However this would be the best way to do it because you are manipulating the OUT signal, not the IN to the ecu. __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

12-12-2007, 04:19 PM	#3
KA-T_240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Moorhead, MN Age: 38 Posts: 1,788 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I plan on running calum tune. I brought this up cause i was having a discussion with kringlers and he was looking at gettign one of these for his S14SR __________________

12-12-2007, 06:13 PM	#4
wonkuuzenki Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: rio rancho, NM Posts: 312 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Fuck Gayem. it's all about APC. Just kidding. all in all it is a ECU that has great adjustibilty and tuning options for being a piggyback ECU. A friend of mine is running one with no problems whatsoever. I would definetly look into it. And as far as Greddy E-Manage being junk i would definetly not go as far as to say that. It's all in the tuning on that one. __________________ *Function. Form.* Step Up Drift Club/Upper Limit!

12-13-2007, 12:34 AM	#5
KA-T_240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Moorhead, MN Age: 38 Posts: 1,788 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I didn't mean to really call it "junk". Everyone over on KA-T that has had it gave up, with using it on their KA-T setups. We shall see, my friend just bought it for his KA-T setup maybe they changed something. I think it was the sameway for the SR20 as well. But I have scene them do good things on other applications. __________________

12-13-2007, 11:06 AM	#7
trsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,995 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	FYI, there is a difference from greddy emanage blue and greddy emanage ultimate. Everyone given up on the Blue, but the ultimate, there is still a crowd that runs it.

12-13-2007, 11:18 AM	#8
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Any Clamping tuning solution(SAFC,Emanage) is junk. The nice thing about the AEM PIC is that it takes the factory signal and remaps it. Generating it's own signal instead of trimming(clamping) the factory signal. Nissans tend to adjust their timing based on the MAP/MAF inputs. Clamping them tends to lead to unwanted timing advance. Which is why people blow their engines even though they were pig rich. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

12-13-2007, 11:32 AM	#9
Doluck Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jacksonville, Fl. Age: 44 Posts: 182 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have used the E Manage Ulti with very good luck. The problem from what I have seen, seems to be that every one wants to crank up the sample rate to max on it and over works it, then they get mad when it acts up.... Its not a standalone and its not a high end peice.. but it will do the job very well if you know what your doing. But for that price range.... i would get the AEM..... hehe

12-13-2007, 02:12 PM	#10
mothon Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: oklahoma Age: 39 Posts: 837 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I am also interested in the aem piggyback, but its been out for a while now and i still havnt heard of anyone actually installing one on a 240. What motor are you using??? KA? Sr? Im assuming ka