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xLSTONEx · 10-15-2002, 08:44 PM

I am thinking about getting some Eibach Pro-kit suspension springs for my car. Is it better for handling than the sportlines or not? And no I don't have the money for coilovers right now, just need something to help handling and drops it just a little, not a lot like the sportlines.

*revat619* · 10-16-2002, 12:27 AM

I've been told (on this site) that H&R springs are a good alternative to eibach pro-kits and sportlines. Im not sure as far as handling goes on the pro-kits, but i'm pretty sure its been said that the drop is very minimal, you'll barely notice it. Thats why im going with H&R's - good handling and a noticeable yet decent drop.

jyt747 · 10-16-2002, 12:48 AM

depends on what shocks/struts you plan on putting them with. if you're just getting springs, prokits would probably allow your shocks to last a little longer, but sportlines will blow them pretty quick, imo. more details please...

*ca18guy* · 10-16-2002, 03:30 AM

Go look in the chat section, there is a good thread going on similar to this that might help you out.

turbo240sx · 10-16-2002, 09:52 AM

sportlines with kyb struts and suspension techniques sway bars. and 17's handles like its on rails

xLSTONEx · 10-16-2002, 05:30 PM

well thanks for all the replies, but again i don't care about the drop at all. I jsut want to know which one of the two handles better. They will be on 17 inch tires, but all I want to know is the best for handling, or will the H&Rs handle better. Again i don't care about the drop.

Apparition · 10-16-2002, 06:04 PM

Any pics of the sportlines with kyb's?

jyt747 · 10-16-2002, 09:00 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xLSTONEx @ Oct. 15 2002,7:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well thanks for all the replies, but again i don't care about the drop at all. I jsut want to know which one of the two handles better. They will be on 17 inch tires, but all I want to know is the best for handling, or will the H&Rs handle better. Again i don't care about the drop.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
a lot depends on the drop. the lower the car is, the better/stiffer shocks/struts you're going to have to get. sportlines combined with kyb GR2's will ride like shiet, but if you get them with, say koni yellows, they'll handle good.

A lot of it rides on what shocks you plan on getting...

If you want to find out the spring rates, check out the archive and faq on the second page...

SilviaSR20DET · 10-17-2002, 12:26 AM

I have the eibach sportlines on my 97 240sx and they work really well even with stock shocks. I just cant imagine how well my car would handle with new shocks, strut bars and sway bars. Id recommend getting the eibach sportlines because it performs good and has a perfect drop.

i hate rice rockets · 10-17-2002, 01:10 AM

yea i also have ebiach sportline on my s14 and its great...its a nice drop and it handles pretty good....

KyoLo · 10-17-2002, 01:43 AM

pro-kit for daily drive
sportline for stiffer performance..u decide

240sxer95 · 10-17-2002, 03:48 PM

i got prokit on my s14, i think there great, its a really nice drop... i was wondering which shocks i should get? ? ?
i was thinking baout AGX's....

rippin240 · 10-19-2002, 06:01 PM

i have the sportlines and kyb gr2 and it handles like its on rails the sportlines arent too low but the are very stiff mounted with gr2s very tight handling

sheadee240 · 10-20-2002, 12:12 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rippin240 @ Oct. 19 2002,7:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i have the sportlines and kyb gr2 and it handles like its on rails the sportlines arent too low but the are very stiff mounted with gr2s very tight handling</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Those GR2s will have a relatively short life with Sportlines.

As far as handleing is concerned the Pro-Kit is the way to go.  I believe it is one of the stiffest spring artes out there, I've heard the H&R are a little to soft for the drop and you will bottom out.  The higher spring rate is the best route to better handling.  I've talked to people who race competitively and lowering the car too much throws off the suspension geometry.

This one guy who I Auto-X with is sponsored for road racing in a sick freaken mustang, and he told me that if you really want the best handleing (non coil-over) select the spring with the least drop and the highest spring rate...thus pro-kit!

Most of these peole who drop there cars are doing it for appearance, with handling as a bonus, but for the handling freak the pro-kit is the sheEit.

TRUST...try to find someone who as written anything bad about the Pro-Kit other than "WAA-WAAH my car isn't low enough"

DuffMan · 10-20-2002, 02:25 AM

Well for one guy one this forum the prokits actually raised his car.

I would definitely stay away from sportlines. That low you're going to have all kinds of alignment issues, and also sportlines will probably bottom out when driving autox unless you have some really stiff shocks.

sheadee240 · 10-20-2002, 02:41 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DuffMan @ Oct. 20 2002,03:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well for one guy one this forum the prokits actually raised his car.

I would definitely stay away from sportlines. That low you're going to have all kinds of alignment issues, and also sportlines will probably bottom out when driving autox unless you have some really stiff shocks.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Maybe I'm a assh0le, but I don't believe that at all.  I actually remember hearing someone complaining that there car was higher, but I think that was someone freaking out because they intended to REALLY lower there car rather than make a suspension improvement, and they were really dissapointed that it wasn't slammed.

I never did any measuring or any of that crap, because I am a performance guy, not a low-rider.  But, On my pro-kit style S14 I can't fit three fingers between the tires and wheel well up front, and in back I can't fit two fingers.

And that is with 235/40/17s which are actually smaller in diameter than the stock 205/55/16s.

Like I said, "other than WAAA Wah, WAGH it's not low enough"

Danio · 10-20-2002, 02:53 AM

What linear springs would you guys recommend?

10-16-2002, 12:27 AM	#2
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,672 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I've been told (on this site) that H&R springs are a good alternative to eibach pro-kits and sportlines. Im not sure as far as handling goes on the pro-kits, but i'm pretty sure its been said that the drop is very minimal, you'll barely notice it. Thats why im going with H&R's - good handling and a noticeable yet decent drop. __________________ www.Jspec.com www.SpeedAlliance.com www.PoweredByMax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

10-16-2002, 12:48 AM	#3
jyt747 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 305 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	depends on what shocks/struts you plan on putting them with. if you're just getting springs, prokits would probably allow your shocks to last a little longer, but sportlines will blow them pretty quick, imo. more details please... __________________ '96 5 spd SE; K&N intake, apexi coilovers, apexi c/f fstb, clutchmaster stage 1 w/ lightened flywheel, b&m ss, 5zigen fireball, jacobs ice pak. (NOW TOTALLED, RIP)

10-16-2002, 09:52 AM	#5
turbo240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CT Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sportlines with kyb struts and suspension techniques sway bars. and 17's handles like its on rails __________________ 240sx s-13 TURBO weekend v-8 killer 90 Talon TSI WARNING.THIS CAR IS EQUIPPED WITH A TURBOCHARGER. DUE TO POSSIBLE BREATHING PROBLEMS UNDER HEAVY ACCELERATION, ALL FEMALES ARE ADVISED TO REMOVE ANY TIGHT FITTING OR RESTRICTIVE CLOTHING FOR SAFETY.

10-16-2002, 06:04 PM	#7
Apparition Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 439 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Any pics of the sportlines with kyb's? __________________ 1990 240sx coupe sold

10-16-2002, 09:00 PM	#8
jyt747 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 305 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xLSTONEx @ Oct. 15 2002,7:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well thanks for all the replies, but again i don't care about the drop at all. I jsut want to know which one of the two handles better. They will be on 17 inch tires, but all I want to know is the best for handling, or will the H&Rs handle better. Again i don't care about the drop.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> a lot depends on the drop. the lower the car is, the better/stiffer shocks/struts you're going to have to get. sportlines combined with kyb GR2's will ride like shiet, but if you get them with, say koni yellows, they'll handle good. A lot of it rides on what shocks you plan on getting... If you want to find out the spring rates, check out the archive and faq on the second page... __________________ '96 5 spd SE; K&N intake, apexi coilovers, apexi c/f fstb, clutchmaster stage 1 w/ lightened flywheel, b&m ss, 5zigen fireball, jacobs ice pak. (NOW TOTALLED, RIP)

10-15-2002, 08:44 PM	#1
xLSTONEx BANNED Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 39 Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am thinking about getting some Eibach Pro-kit suspension springs for my car. Is it better for handling than the sportlines or not? And no I don't have the money for coilovers right now, just need something to help handling and drops it just a little, not a lot like the sportlines.

10-16-2002, 03:30 AM	#4
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Go look in the chat section, there is a good thread going on similar to this that might help you out.

10-16-2002, 05:30 PM	#6
xLSTONEx BANNED Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 39 Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well thanks for all the replies, but again i don't care about the drop at all. I jsut want to know which one of the two handles better. They will be on 17 inch tires, but all I want to know is the best for handling, or will the H&Rs handle better. Again i don't care about the drop.

10-17-2002, 12:26 AM	#9
SilviaSR20DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I have the eibach sportlines on my 97 240sx and they work really well even with stock shocks. I just cant imagine how well my car would handle with new shocks, strut bars and sway bars. Id recommend getting the eibach sportlines because it performs good and has a perfect drop.

10-17-2002, 01:10 AM	#10
i hate rice rockets Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 86 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea i also have ebiach sportline on my s14 and its great...its a nice drop and it handles pretty good.... __________________ 95 240sx Se.. soon to have an SR

10-17-2002, 01:43 AM	#11
KyoLo Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: UCSD Posts: 249 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	pro-kit for daily drive sportline for stiffer performance..u decide __________________ Signature Exceeds Forum Limits

10-17-2002, 03:48 PM	#12
240sxer95 Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got prokit on my s14, i think there great, its a really nice drop... i was wondering which shocks i should get? ? ? i was thinking baout AGX's....

10-19-2002, 06:01 PM	#13
rippin240 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have the sportlines and kyb gr2 and it handles like its on rails the sportlines arent too low but the are very stiff mounted with gr2s very tight handling __________________ 90 240sx clutch masters stage 1 ngk plugs and wires custom 2.5in pipe carbon fiber muffler injen intake eibach sportline springs kyb gr2 struts rear strut bar 16'' OZ wheels

10-20-2002, 12:12 AM	#14
sheadee240 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CT Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rippin240 @ Oct. 19 2002,7:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i have the sportlines and kyb gr2 and it handles like its on rails the sportlines arent too low but the are very stiff mounted with gr2s very tight handling</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Those GR2s will have a relatively short life with Sportlines. As far as handleing is concerned the Pro-Kit is the way to go.  I believe it is one of the stiffest spring artes out there, I've heard the H&R are a little to soft for the drop and you will bottom out.  The higher spring rate is the best route to better handling.  I've talked to people who race competitively and lowering the car too much throws off the suspension geometry. This one guy who I Auto-X with is sponsored for road racing in a sick freaken mustang, and he told me that if you really want the best handleing (non coil-over) select the spring with the least drop and the highest spring rate...thus pro-kit! Most of these peole who drop there cars are doing it for appearance, with handling as a bonus, but for the handling freak the pro-kit is the sheEit. TRUST...try to find someone who as written anything bad about the Pro-Kit other than "WAA-WAAH my car isn't low enough" __________________ '97 s14 SE with custom intake, 235/40/17s for street, 225/45/15 Kumho race tires for auto-cross, 16 inch studded snows for the winter (he he), S/T sway bars, front strut bar, Rear upper and lower stabilizer bars, Polyurethane T/C rod Bushings, H&R 25 millimeter hub centric spacers, and my favorite... eibach Pro-Kit with KYB GR2 struts.

10-20-2002, 02:25 AM	#15
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well for one guy one this forum the prokits actually raised his car. I would definitely stay away from sportlines. That low you're going to have all kinds of alignment issues, and also sportlines will probably bottom out when driving autox unless you have some really stiff shocks.

10-20-2002, 02:41 AM	#16
sheadee240 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CT Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DuffMan @ Oct. 20 2002,03:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well for one guy one this forum the prokits actually raised his car. I would definitely stay away from sportlines. That low you're going to have all kinds of alignment issues, and also sportlines will probably bottom out when driving autox unless you have some really stiff shocks.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Maybe I'm a assh0le, but I don't believe that at all.  I actually remember hearing someone complaining that there car was higher, but I think that was someone freaking out because they intended to REALLY lower there car rather than make a suspension improvement, and they were really dissapointed that it wasn't slammed. I never did any measuring or any of that crap, because I am a performance guy, not a low-rider.  But, On my pro-kit style S14 I can't fit three fingers between the tires and wheel well up front, and in back I can't fit two fingers. And that is with 235/40/17s which are actually smaller in diameter than the stock 205/55/16s. Like I said, "other than WAAA Wah, WAGH it's not low enough" __________________ '97 s14 SE with custom intake, 235/40/17s for street, 225/45/15 Kumho race tires for auto-cross, 16 inch studded snows for the winter (he he), S/T sway bars, front strut bar, Rear upper and lower stabilizer bars, Polyurethane T/C rod Bushings, H&R 25 millimeter hub centric spacers, and my favorite... eibach Pro-Kit with KYB GR2 struts.

10-20-2002, 02:53 AM	#17
Danio Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SJ Bay Area Posts: 1,002 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What linear springs would you guys recommend?