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bwake 5 · 12-30-2007, 05:52 PM

seems as if the clutch isnt engaging or something...... i couldnt get the clutch to engage and noticed that the throw out fork wasnt working at all. so we pulled the tranny and noticed that the throw out bearing was jacked.... we then put a new tranny in with another throw out bearing and put it all back together. bled the clutch etc. etc. etc....... when the car isnt running it goes through gears fine but when its on that dumb hoe wont go into gear..... and when it does go into gear it moves. as if the clutch is not fully engaging?

any ideas......
sorry for being a noob but i cant find shit.
i love you bye bye

silvia-junkie · 12-30-2007, 05:57 PM

well the clutch probably isn't disengaging. have some one step on the clutch and see it anything moves. when the trany was out did you check the clutch?

murda-c · 12-30-2007, 06:01 PM

sounds like the clutch is dragging, check your adjustment at the pedal, it' a threaded rod with a jam nut, and make sure you didn't bend your fork or break your pivot ball.

all i can think of checking.

racepar1 · 12-30-2007, 08:47 PM

First off make sure your m/c and s/c aren't leaking. Look on the firewall under the master cyl inside the car if it is wet then the m/c is leaking. Pull back the dust boot on the slave cyl if there is fluid in there then it is bad. Also check the clutch pedal adjustment. It should have about 1/2" of play at the pedal.

bwake 5 · 12-30-2007, 11:50 PM

so i checked on the inside of the car on the firewall and it is leaking a little bit from what seems to be the master cylinder...... could this be the reason its doing it. or is that not enough to make it act like that?

ryguy · 12-30-2007, 11:56 PM

Yes this is the reason. It will DEFINATELY make your car impossible to put into gear. Autozone has replacements, takes a half hour to swap out.

racepar1 · 12-31-2007, 12:13 AM

Definitely replace it, but DON'T GO TO AUTOZONE! Unless you feel like replacing it again in a couple of months. Do a little searching and find a source for a tokico one it will be about the same price. Hell autozone might be able to get you one, just stay away from duralast or some other cheap ass crap.

Dousan_PG · 12-31-2007, 12:18 AM

ive been using that autozone shit for my master and slave for over 1.5 years on the track car
actually ive used that on all mycar for the past 5 years..
shit works fine

install
drive
its cool
get some sweet ass speed bleeder too for the slave
makes life easy!

bwake 5 · 12-31-2007, 12:25 AM

u guys are the shit.......

if i could give postive rep everyone would be a winner!!!!!!!!!!! lol

ryguy · 12-31-2007, 12:43 AM

Haha no problem, but yeah I had an Autozone master cyl. on my old fastback and I beat the shit out of that car and the master lasted a year and when I sold the car it was still holding up like a champ.

racepar1 · 12-31-2007, 12:49 AM

No problem man! I've got a tokico master and slave on my car and I've been running them for 2.5 years. As a matter of fact they were on my red coupe for like 1.5 years then I wrecked it and now they've been on my fastback for a year. Buy quality parts, it will always pay off in the end.

silvia-junkie · 12-31-2007, 01:40 AM

http://www.frsport.com/Clutch-Pedal---Parts_c_43.html just bought a slave and master myself from these guys.

fueled by hate · 12-31-2007, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryguy

Yes this is the reason. It will DEFINATELY make your car impossible to put into gear. Autozone has replacements, takes a half hour to swap out.

Definitely don't goto autozone or kragen. You'll be replacing the master cylinder again in 12 months or less. I had my clutch fork bend on my truck and I got to learn how to shift with no clutch. I knew if I left my truck at work it would be gone or stripped the next day so I had no choice.

g6civcx · 12-31-2007, 06:23 AM

You can drive without using the clutch but you have to learn how to revmatch perfectly. One screwup and you'll fry the synchros.

New OEM master cylinder, new OEM or Nismo slave cylinder, throw away the damper box, and get a Taka Motorsports braided line from master to slave to make your life easier.

It should take less than 5 repititions to bleed without the damper. With the damper you need a power bleeder.

airhead · 12-31-2007, 11:56 AM

same thing happend to me only when it was cold
I just bled the clutch and it started to work againg
weird...

bwake 5 · 01-01-2008, 05:52 PM

ok so i replaced the master cylinder, slave clyinder, throw out bearing, fork, and new tranny...... but the car still doesnt go into gear very easily while it is running. it can be done but it has to be forced. and once it is in gear and the clutch is in the car starts moving unless i am on the brakes... it shifts from 1st to second fine and from 3rd to forth fine but the main problem is while im stopped it is trying to go. about to go try and adjust the play at the clutch problem

bwake 5 · 01-01-2008, 06:07 PM

ok nvm it was the clutch adjustment
thank you all for your help.........

my beater is now on the road!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bwake 5 · 01-02-2008, 06:14 PM

well as of yesterday the problem was fixed...........

but guess what...... its not fixed anymore

i drove it today for the first time and it got me to work fine and dandy... on the way home from work im going straight and just hear metal grinding again..... so im like wtf? i just put that throw out bearing in.....i havent got to look at it yet but i am almost positive that it is the throw out bearing....... so i drive home without a clutch and now am sitting here thinking how nice it was to drive my car for the 20 minuts that it lasted?

so my question to you is why did this happen again???? could i be installing the throw out bearing wrong????

bwake 5 · 01-02-2008, 07:40 PM

im gonna put a new one in tommorow but im nervous because i dont want this one to mess up agian because it will be my third one

some one please help a retard

Xren17 · 01-03-2008, 09:17 AM

I had a similar problem after going to a after market clutch. I think your clutch is not being fully disengage.

1. A quick test is with the engine off put it in 1st gear.
2. Start the car.
3. If the cars move forward then your clutch is not disengaging properly.

Solution:
1. Try adjusting the clutch engagement point which you've done.
2. Replace the slave with a nismo one.
3 Try extending the rod in the slave by putting it in a 8mm socket. If this works, fab yourself up a longer rod.

bwake 5 · 01-24-2008, 11:39 PM

so what would cause me to keep messing up throw out bearings?

i dont want to put another one in there and mess it up again?
what would cause this?

could it be the pressure plate?

bwake 5 · 01-25-2008, 06:46 AM

??????????????????????

bwake 5 · 01-25-2008, 10:16 AM

guess no one knows what could cause throw out bearings to keep messing up?

importdude · 02-12-2008, 01:51 AM

"what did u do for clutch adjustment"

did the spin the pedal rod longer or shorter?

picho · 02-12-2008, 01:58 AM

single plate check to see if you didnt put the disc on backwards and its not realesing of the flywheel bolts its possible

MadMaverick · 02-12-2008, 10:29 AM

When you took the trans down, did you put in a new clutch too? Check to see if the clutch fork pivot ball is broken. Make sure your clutch fork is properly installed (with the little spring clip). Make sure you properly bleed your clutch system afterwards. You should be able to watch the slave cylinder move the clutch fork from above.

xsparc · 02-12-2008, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g6civcx

You can drive without using the clutch but you have to learn how to revmatch perfectly. One screwup and you'll fry the synchros.

New OEM master cylinder, new OEM or Nismo slave cylinder, throw away the damper box, and get a Taka Motorsports braided line from master to slave to make your life easier.

It should take less than 5 repititions to bleed without the damper. With the damper you need a power bleeder.

haha i had to do that a few weeks ago when my clutch went out on the way to work

bwake 5 · 02-12-2008, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMaverick

When you took the trans down, did you put in a new clutch too? Check to see if the clutch fork pivot ball is broken. Make sure your clutch fork is properly installed (with the little spring clip). Make sure you properly bleed your clutch system afterwards. You should be able to watch the slave cylinder move the clutch fork from above.

ding ding ding! winner!

12-30-2007, 05:52 PM	#1
bwake 5 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria tx Age: 36 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	car wont go into gear, and when does moves seems as if the clutch isnt engaging or something...... i couldnt get the clutch to engage and noticed that the throw out fork wasnt working at all. so we pulled the tranny and noticed that the throw out bearing was jacked.... we then put a new tranny in with another throw out bearing and put it all back together. bled the clutch etc. etc. etc....... when the car isnt running it goes through gears fine but when its on that dumb hoe wont go into gear..... and when it does go into gear it moves. as if the clutch is not fully engaging? any ideas...... sorry for being a noob but i cant find shit. i love you bye bye

12-30-2007, 11:56 PM	#6
ryguy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Suburbs Age: 36 Posts: 1,544 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Yes this is the reason. It will DEFINATELY make your car impossible to put into gear. Autozone has replacements, takes a half hour to swap out. __________________

12-31-2007, 12:18 AM	#8
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	ive been using that autozone shit for my master and slave for over 1.5 years on the track car actually ive used that on all mycar for the past 5 years.. shit works fine install drive its cool get some sweet ass speed bleeder too for the slave makes life easy! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

12-31-2007, 12:43 AM	#10
ryguy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Suburbs Age: 36 Posts: 1,544 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Haha no problem, but yeah I had an Autozone master cyl. on my old fastback and I beat the shit out of that car and the master lasted a year and when I sold the car it was still holding up like a champ. __________________

12-31-2007, 11:56 AM	#15
airhead Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: IE/OC Posts: 1,885 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	same thing happend to me only when it was cold I just bled the clutch and it started to work againg weird... __________________

12-30-2007, 05:57 PM	#2
silvia-junkie Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ma Posts: 72 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	well the clutch probably isn't disengaging. have some one step on the clutch and see it anything moves. when the trany was out did you check the clutch?

12-30-2007, 06:01 PM	#3
murda-c Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery County, MD Age: 36 Posts: 3,198 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	sounds like the clutch is dragging, check your adjustment at the pedal, it' a threaded rod with a jam nut, and make sure you didn't bend your fork or break your pivot ball. all i can think of checking.

12-30-2007, 08:47 PM	#4
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	First off make sure your m/c and s/c aren't leaking. Look on the firewall under the master cyl inside the car if it is wet then the m/c is leaking. Pull back the dust boot on the slave cyl if there is fluid in there then it is bad. Also check the clutch pedal adjustment. It should have about 1/2" of play at the pedal.

12-30-2007, 11:50 PM	#5
bwake 5 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria tx Age: 36 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so i checked on the inside of the car on the firewall and it is leaking a little bit from what seems to be the master cylinder...... could this be the reason its doing it. or is that not enough to make it act like that?

12-31-2007, 12:13 AM	#7
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	Definitely replace it, but DON'T GO TO AUTOZONE! Unless you feel like replacing it again in a couple of months. Do a little searching and find a source for a tokico one it will be about the same price. Hell autozone might be able to get you one, just stay away from duralast or some other cheap ass crap.

12-31-2007, 12:25 AM	#9
bwake 5 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria tx Age: 36 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	u guys are the shit....... if i could give postive rep everyone would be a winner!!!!!!!!!!! lol

12-31-2007, 12:49 AM	#11
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	No problem man! I've got a tokico master and slave on my car and I've been running them for 2.5 years. As a matter of fact they were on my red coupe for like 1.5 years then I wrecked it and now they've been on my fastback for a year. Buy quality parts, it will always pay off in the end.

12-31-2007, 01:40 AM	#12
silvia-junkie Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ma Posts: 72 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	http://www.frsport.com/Clutch-Pedal---Parts_c_43.html just bought a slave and master myself from these guys.

12-31-2007, 06:23 AM	#14
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	You can drive without using the clutch but you have to learn how to revmatch perfectly. One screwup and you'll fry the synchros. New OEM master cylinder, new OEM or Nismo slave cylinder, throw away the damper box, and get a Taka Motorsports braided line from master to slave to make your life easier. It should take less than 5 repititions to bleed without the damper. With the damper you need a power bleeder.

01-01-2008, 05:52 PM	#16
bwake 5 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria tx Age: 36 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok so i replaced the master cylinder, slave clyinder, throw out bearing, fork, and new tranny...... but the car still doesnt go into gear very easily while it is running. it can be done but it has to be forced. and once it is in gear and the clutch is in the car starts moving unless i am on the brakes... it shifts from 1st to second fine and from 3rd to forth fine but the main problem is while im stopped it is trying to go. about to go try and adjust the play at the clutch problem

01-01-2008, 06:07 PM	#17
bwake 5 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria tx Age: 36 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok nvm it was the clutch adjustment thank you all for your help......... my beater is now on the road!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-02-2008, 06:14 PM	#18
bwake 5 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria tx Age: 36 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well as of yesterday the problem was fixed........... but guess what...... its not fixed anymore i drove it today for the first time and it got me to work fine and dandy... on the way home from work im going straight and just hear metal grinding again..... so im like wtf? i just put that throw out bearing in.....i havent got to look at it yet but i am almost positive that it is the throw out bearing....... so i drive home without a clutch and now am sitting here thinking how nice it was to drive my car for the 20 minuts that it lasted? so my question to you is why did this happen again???? could i be installing the throw out bearing wrong????

01-02-2008, 07:40 PM	#19
bwake 5 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria tx Age: 36 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im gonna put a new one in tommorow but im nervous because i dont want this one to mess up agian because it will be my third one some one please help a retard

01-03-2008, 09:17 AM	#20
Xren17 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: San Diego / Cerritos Posts: 341 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I had a similar problem after going to a after market clutch. I think your clutch is not being fully disengage. 1. A quick test is with the engine off put it in 1st gear. 2. Start the car. 3. If the cars move forward then your clutch is not disengaging properly. Solution: 1. Try adjusting the clutch engagement point which you've done. 2. Replace the slave with a nismo one. 3 Try extending the rod in the slave by putting it in a 8mm socket. If this works, fab yourself up a longer rod.

01-24-2008, 11:39 PM	#21
bwake 5 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria tx Age: 36 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so what would cause me to keep messing up throw out bearings? i dont want to put another one in there and mess it up again? what would cause this? could it be the pressure plate?

01-25-2008, 06:46 AM	#22
bwake 5 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria tx Age: 36 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	??????????????????????

01-25-2008, 10:16 AM	#23
bwake 5 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria tx Age: 36 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	guess no one knows what could cause throw out bearings to keep messing up?

02-12-2008, 01:51 AM	#24
importdude Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: san j0 Posts: 1,391 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	"what did u do for clutch adjustment" did the spin the pedal rod longer or shorter?

02-12-2008, 01:58 AM	#25
picho Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: california Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	single plate check to see if you didnt put the disc on backwards and its not realesing of the flywheel bolts its possible

02-12-2008, 10:29 AM	#26
MadMaverick Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central Jerz Posts: 161 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	When you took the trans down, did you put in a new clutch too? Check to see if the clutch fork pivot ball is broken. Make sure your clutch fork is properly installed (with the little spring clip). Make sure you properly bleed your clutch system afterwards. You should be able to watch the slave cylinder move the clutch fork from above.