Just Got My Injen Short Ram Intake

[wpayne]

I just got done installing the intake and took the car around for a little drive. The intake definately makes the engine roar more when i get to the higher RPM's but I dont know if I really notice a difference in power or the power band. I could just be tired and not paying as close as attention as I should be. Is it really a noticeable difference in power?

Oh, I also don't know when the spark plugs were last changed. Would changing them help at all? And if so, what kind should I go for?

[S14lover]

the engine roar is nice as hell ..but yes you will not notice a hugh difference but there is a difference in HP very small but there is one...as far as spark plugs I've been hearing good things about NGK's....but that's just me

[Potatoskins02]

basic maintanence can make a big difference sometimes, especially with spark plugs. A foul plug can lead to a lot of problems. I myself have platinum 4's and in the beginning the weren't that great. I dynoed my car with them the day after i put them in (dyno deal). The dyno had problems reading the spark (which could have been the new wires i put in also: Aurora) and hp was very low 127. After a few months i returned to dyno it again (another dyno deal) and the dyno was a whole lot better 141hp/144 ft/lbs. So after a while they have been working wonderfully but in the beginning they sucked the big one.

Apparently though, NGK's are choice plugs for Nissans so maybe they would be best to get.

[red240ne]

bosch is the devil for nissans!! never get bosch for your 240, biggest mistake you can make.  get ngk plugs/wires online from advance auto parts.

[red240ne]

also just buy a cone filter, and make your own intake!! why spend 200 plus bucks??? i say this every time, i mean, come on people, we need to be saving up for the sr. can't waste money on the little things.

[saga240]

get the extension.. it makes it that much more funner..  i only really felt it made a difference with it on..

[CoasTek240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (red240ne @ Oct. 28 2002,12:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">bosch is the devil for nissans!! never get bosch for your 240, biggest mistake you can make. get ngk plugs/wires online from advance auto parts.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
why do u say that?

[CoasTek240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wpayne @ Oct. 27 2002,9:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is it really a noticeable difference in power?

Oh, I also don't know when the spark plugs were last changed. Would changing them help at all? And if so, what kind should I go for?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
you won't really be able to tell a diff with just an intake... however it does sound nice.

as far as ur plugs if you don't klnow when they were last replace i'd say replace them.you could always just pull them out and check,... if they are all chared and black replace them.

[Potatoskins02]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (red240ne @ Oct. 29 2002,11:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">bosch is the devil for nissans!! never get bosch for your 240, biggest mistake you can make. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yea why would you say something like that? I myself have found that they are good plugs and I am also using aurora wires which not very many people that i know of have. I don't know if you've had any experiences with them or if you are just saying what other people have said about them from this or other forums but don't bash a company which makes good oem replacements. They are not the devil for nissans and putting a set of those in my car was probably one of the best choices i've made for my car.

[wpayne]

Ok, I finally got some time to drive the car around and now I do notice a difference (I hope not just because I unconsciencely want a diff that I trick myself into thinking that). Not much more over power but I do notice more power available in the lower RPM's, it help to slightly flatten the power rate.

As for sparks, I've seen them changed before and they are not hard right? How much would a set of NGK's go far and is there any specific NGK or is there just one type?

What kind of wires are good and how much?

[Potatoskins02]

changing plugs is not a had process you just have to be careful and not damage the electrodes. As for NGK plugs you can get iridiums for about 5 bucks each or just a normal plug for 1.50 (most auto stores will sell these) from pdm-racing along with rotors/dirt cap/fuel filter. The also sell wires for our cars 50 bucks for them which is still about 20 bucks cheaper than oem. but i guess you could go with magnecor it seems like a lot of people are using them and they are working fine.

[wpayne]

Yeah, I think I'll go with the Iridiums. Could I just go down to the local Pepboys or Kragen for these?

Oh, how much do you screw them into the hole? I've heard it has to be the right amount or you can damage them. Like how many turns or how much torqueis required?

[Potatoskins02]

I'm not sure if you can get iridiums from pep boys they may sell them but if they don't they could probably order them for you and have it there in a day or two. As for how much you torque it in, i think it's about 19 lbs.... or was it 15 lbs. It'll usually say on the box home much you should torque it on the box.

[madwilly814]

I have denso iridium plugs. &nbsp;they are nice. &nbsp;dont go for that crap that has like 4 electrodes, its stupid. &nbsp;its impossible to split a spark, so the spark just shoots off to one of the electrodes.

bosch- german
nissan - japanese

DONT USE BOSCH

[Potatoskins02]

why are people so bias when it comes to spark plugs... so they're german does it mean that its a bad product? If you are going to try to pursuade people to go one way or the other stating that a plug was made in germany isn't much of an arguement. Not everything is made in Japan. Plus you are comparing Iridiums which are good for turbocharged or high compression NA motors. Bosch makes OEM replacements. Don't jump to conclusions just because one person says they suck. They don't. They work very well with my car (dyno results were very smooth) which would mean that a german product and a japanese motor can get a long.

[wpayne]

Woa cowboy, I don't think anyone was saying Bosch products suck because they are German made. Red240ne was probably just stating his opinion based on his experience. We all tend to do that once in a while.

Anyways, Ok, to change to plugs, Do I need any special kind of tool or will a good ol' socket wrench work? Or would I have to get a torque wrench (the ones that give you a reading) to measure the torque?

Are there any things that I need to look out for in particular?

Appreciate all the help man <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[Potatoskins02]

sorry, i just have a problem with people who posts things like

"bosch is the devil for nissans!! never get bosch for your 240, biggest mistake you can make. "

and the whole "rice" issue.

All you'll need is a socket set which has a spark plug socket, a extension so it can reach the spark plug, and maybe the torque wrench. It would be nice to have one dial's don't cost too much and are worth the investment but i'm pretty sure you can do it without one. You might also want to look into dielectric grease. Be careful when putting the spark plug in because it may fall out of the socket.

[wpayne]

Ok, cool. What is dielectric grease? And is it really easy to damage a plug by over turning it?

[madwilly814]

chill buddy, my mechanic told me that german engineering and japanese engineering shouldnt be mixed up if possible, its different shit. &nbsp;I was just going on what my mechanic (who has been working on cars 30+ years) told me. &nbsp;use bosch, i dont care.

[Potatoskins02]

well i'm not sure if that grease is called that most auto stores will know what you are talking about. usually at dealers and maybe a few shops they place a grease on top of the spark plug. IIRC the grease helps with the current and makes it easier for you to pull of the wires.

How is it different? Spark plugs are spark plugs until you start getting some serious horses. Bosch makes a spark and ignites the fuel..... NGK does the same..... i don't see how you will have any performance issues....

[flipboi13]

red240ne and madwilly 814, you are actually right, and it has nothing to do with quality. &nbsp;German engines and Japanese engines usually use different.... <brain fart>... um.. things... cold plug thing... oh HEAT RANGES, German plugs and Japanese plugs have different heat ranges. &nbsp;It may not be a problem with a stock engine, but when you start boosting etc, it WILL become a problem. &nbsp;My shop teacher told me this, and so did the Nissan dealer mechanic I was speaking with as they have found ignition problems being caused by German plugs. &nbsp;

Now my rant. &nbsp;So for those of you on the Bosch bandwagaon, neener neener neener &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[SilviaDriver]

of course u wont fill a big ass diff..its only an intake..not like its some kind of turbo that would whip ur head back when u gas it

[flipboi13]

I got the Injen too, and for $150 or so that you pay for it, its a pretty good investment. &nbsp;I noticed some low end throttle response but the engine feels like it is doing more work than it usually did. &nbsp;The roar is very nice too.

[adey]

I wouldn't spend $200 for an intake, I simply can't justify it. At most you gain 3-4 horsepower (crank&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> and a little bit of a growl... I'd much rather put the $200 into suspension tune/footwork, which I find much more important.
$200 and some change (price of a CAI) is the price of a set of adjustable sway bars!

[Potatoskins02]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Potatoskins02 @ Nov. 01 2002,12<!--)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Plus you are comparing Iridiums which are good for turbocharged or high compression NA motors. Bosch makes OEM replacements.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
do people ever read other posts before they go off saying things........