standalone chassis wiring

[Enjin]

so as I'm going through all of these wires, relays and fuses, deleting the unneeded, I wonder to myself... what is keeping me from just taking out the entire upper harness and wiring it directly into the ignition/accessory/positive terminal and running it through a series of switches?

the only thing that is keeping me from doing this is the timing relay, the thing that controls the intervals at which the wiper wipes and the turn signals.

everything else can be run through a switch... and that is not even that much:

lights, blower motor, fan, radio, fuel pump, blinkers. the brake light relay can be run through the switch to short out if not engaged... any thoughts?

I feel as if this could simplify the entire system after deleting so many things.

[Jgrand03]

painless wiring harness look it up

[GSXRJJordan]

I've thought exactly the same thing, but when I saw the Painless kits available, I didn't feel like trying to replicate it just yet. I think Bardabe did an install... I could be wrong.

Anyway, try and find an install thread with a description of parts used and pics. It'll give you an idea of what you're in for. At the very least, you'll need a power distribution block and relays, in addition to switches, for all the things you listed.

[Enjin]

yeah I saw the thread that bardabe made a while back. I just don't feel like doing the painless wiring... because I would rather spend money on tons of food.

plus, I like the whole engineering type thing... then again, I'm a nerd...

[GSXRJJordan]

Hahaha I feel ya, I was an Av. Elect. Tech in the Navy, I love the lil' engineering projects too. Problem is, you've got wiper timers/door timers/blinker timers, then you have to decide how much actual wire you're going to keep from the harness itself - this leads you into deciding how good of notes you're going to take in case you have to troubleshoot something down the line (I mean, you're doing it for long term, right?). Its just a huge headache, just to be back to stock functionality.

[Enjin]

yeah... when I was reading deeply into the fsm, I found basically only one timing control system I need, which was connected to both the blinker and windshield wipers. the door timers I do not need because I am just going to take everything out of the doors anyway, except the locks. no wires running over there.

yes, I am doing this for long term reliability. the reason I am doing this is because the previous owner of the car hacked the living hell out of the harness and it has tons of electrical demons. my girlfriend's stock civic is the major mode of transport, and I honestly don't care about a lot of amenities. the only places I go are school, work and mma training. work and mma, I have a bike... so really who cares?

I CAN afford downtime on the car, so it's all good.

it does get a little confusing, tho, tracing all of the wires. some of the needed relays are interconnected with the unneeded ones. It's very interesting, but very tedious.

[GSXRJJordan]

^^^ Same thing that I found. If you do decide to delve into it, please take good notes, and post them