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USAFs13 · 12-21-2011, 01:28 PM

Before I get to frustrated with this car trying to solve this starting issue figured I would ask here.....

Finished working on the suspension the other night got it back home and turn the car off and had to turn it back and on and it wouldnt start. Next day got a jump car started fine and figured it would be ok. Got the car over to advance auto had them test the battery and it was fine (dumb dumb at the counter said it was my alternator and that it was over charging the batter) so I pulled the alternator to have it tested and it tested fine. So now im back to square one....

1. Car can be jumped but one its turned off it wont start again.
2. battery tested fine
3. alternator tested fine
4. soon as i turn the key everything cuts off.

Could this be the starter relay next to the battery?

Likethunda · 12-21-2011, 01:32 PM

try using a friends battery instead and see if it will start....

I had a bad battery that tested fine once... (Autozone) lol... i guess its worth a try..

i would double check all your connections... Including your ground for any corrosion

NOTsliden · 12-21-2011, 08:03 PM

it may be loose battery terminal clamps.

drugsbunny · 12-22-2011, 12:42 AM

Its the negative terminal on the battery make sure its tighten properly. this happened to me a few times on my s14.

USAFs13 · 12-22-2011, 12:37 PM

This is gonna sound like a stupid question but if I jumped the car and say the starter was bad would it even start?

NOTsliden · 12-22-2011, 12:46 PM

No, because the starter turns the flywheel which turns the motor over.
You can push start it if the starter I bad tho. The only reason to jump it, would be for a bad or dead battery.

USAFs13 · 12-22-2011, 03:51 PM

well went out bought the starter relay and from what ive been told its next to the battery near the fender and I dont see anything there but a gray plug not the blue one everyone tells me about is it different on the 89-90 models mine is auto by the way.

240sohc · 12-22-2011, 04:00 PM

Blue or grey its the same.

*wangan_cruiser* · 12-23-2011, 09:08 PM

shit could be a bad starter. have you tried pulling the starter and get it tested? plus can you explain how did you test the battery and alternator? what voltage are you getting from the battery while the car is off? what about the voltage while your car is on after you jumped it? could be possibly a loose alt belt? possibly your battery is not holding charge?

Project S13 · 12-23-2011, 09:16 PM

Look for the grounds. Maybe there loose. This happened to me on my civic.

USAFs13 · 12-23-2011, 09:27 PM

I had autozone and advance test the alternator and advance tested the battery twice. I'm starting to think its either a connection somewhere is loose or the alternator is bad because after I jumped it and was driving back the night this started the headlights were going in and out.

scott883 · 12-24-2011, 09:23 AM

That was happening to my moms car the connection on the alternater or whatever however that's spelled is bad I had to re tighten them as they came lose the lights would go out then the car would die a few mins later and as well I'd jump it and about 15min later it do the same shit so just re tighten them and you should be finem

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Dro · 12-24-2011, 01:58 PM

So when you jump it, it starts, but if you turn it off right after jumping it, it doesn't start?
Do you have a DMM that you can use? If you do, check the power and ground sides of your starting and charging circuit.

USAFs13 · 12-26-2011, 09:59 AM

Problem Solved: I made this problem much worse than what it ended up being. I removed both battery and alternator had them tested both came out good. Put my battery in another friends car and it worked..... Bought and alternator and new battery clamps before the stores closed on christmas eve. Installed the battery clamps and what do ya know that was the problem the whole time.

Thanks for the help guys. Cant wait to just get this motor out the car cause after being in the engine bay a lot this past week im starting to see the previous owner was super lazy when they replaced this motor. (k24e to k24e ? why idk)

12-21-2011, 01:28 PM	#1
USAFs13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Age: 36 Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Starting Problems k24e Before I get to frustrated with this car trying to solve this starting issue figured I would ask here..... Finished working on the suspension the other night got it back home and turn the car off and had to turn it back and on and it wouldnt start. Next day got a jump car started fine and figured it would be ok. Got the car over to advance auto had them test the battery and it was fine (dumb dumb at the counter said it was my alternator and that it was over charging the batter) so I pulled the alternator to have it tested and it tested fine. So now im back to square one.... 1. Car can be jumped but one its turned off it wont start again. 2. battery tested fine 3. alternator tested fine 4. soon as i turn the key everything cuts off. Could this be the starter relay next to the battery?

12-21-2011, 01:32 PM	#2
Likethunda Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Southern CALI Age: 35 Posts: 423 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	try using a friends battery instead and see if it will start.... I had a bad battery that tested fine once... (Autozone) lol... i guess its worth a try.. i would double check all your connections... Including your ground for any corrosion __________________

12-24-2011, 09:23 AM	#12
scott883 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Riverside Age: 38 Posts: 647 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	That was happening to my moms car the connection on the alternater or whatever however that's spelled is bad I had to re tighten them as they came lose the lights would go out then the car would die a few mins later and as well I'd jump it and about 15min later it do the same shit so just re tighten them and you should be finem Sent from my BlackBerry 9810 using Tapatalk __________________ Sunday night meet and eat 951 // 951Carmeet Instagram

12-21-2011, 08:03 PM	#3
NOTsliden Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: norfolk Age: 31 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	it may be loose battery terminal clamps.

12-22-2011, 12:42 AM	#4
drugsbunny Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 73 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its the negative terminal on the battery make sure its tighten properly. this happened to me a few times on my s14.

12-22-2011, 12:37 PM	#5
USAFs13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Age: 36 Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	This is gonna sound like a stupid question but if I jumped the car and say the starter was bad would it even start?

12-22-2011, 12:46 PM	#6
NOTsliden Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: norfolk Age: 31 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	No, because the starter turns the flywheel which turns the motor over. You can push start it if the starter I bad tho. The only reason to jump it, would be for a bad or dead battery.

12-22-2011, 03:51 PM	#7
USAFs13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Age: 36 Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	well went out bought the starter relay and from what ive been told its next to the battery near the fender and I dont see anything there but a gray plug not the blue one everyone tells me about is it different on the 89-90 models mine is auto by the way.

12-22-2011, 04:00 PM	#8
240sohc Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: park bench Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Blue or grey its the same.

12-23-2011, 09:08 PM	#9
wangan_cruiser kouki man Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: downtown oakland,ca Age: 40 Posts: 3,539 Trader Rating: (36) Feedback Score: 36 reviews	shit could be a bad starter. have you tried pulling the starter and get it tested? plus can you explain how did you test the battery and alternator? what voltage are you getting from the battery while the car is off? what about the voltage while your car is on after you jumped it? could be possibly a loose alt belt? possibly your battery is not holding charge?

12-23-2011, 09:16 PM	#10
Project S13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Vegas Posts: 164 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Look for the grounds. Maybe there loose. This happened to me on my civic.

12-23-2011, 09:27 PM	#11
USAFs13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Age: 36 Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I had autozone and advance test the alternator and advance tested the battery twice. I'm starting to think its either a connection somewhere is loose or the alternator is bad because after I jumped it and was driving back the night this started the headlights were going in and out.

12-24-2011, 01:58 PM	#13
Dro Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: CT Age: 32 Posts: 55 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	So when you jump it, it starts, but if you turn it off right after jumping it, it doesn't start? Do you have a DMM that you can use? If you do, check the power and ground sides of your starting and charging circuit.

12-26-2011, 09:59 AM	#14
USAFs13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Age: 36 Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Problem Solved: I made this problem much worse than what it ended up being. I removed both battery and alternator had them tested both came out good. Put my battery in another friends car and it worked..... Bought and alternator and new battery clamps before the stores closed on christmas eve. Installed the battery clamps and what do ya know that was the problem the whole time. Thanks for the help guys. Cant wait to just get this motor out the car cause after being in the engine bay a lot this past week im starting to see the previous owner was super lazy when they replaced this motor. (k24e to k24e ? why idk)