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Tulok · 05-22-2008, 01:13 PM

I am going to receive a s13 240sx shell w/ a silvia front conversion soon, and I have an MA70 N/A supra that needs lots of love. Luckily, it runs extremely strong. I was wondering what the Zilvia crowd would think if I swapped the 7MGE into the 240sx, and if I could get some advice on the matter.
oh, Did I mention it already has a fake smog certificate and it is EXTREMELY clean w/ a VLSD.

slidingsky · 05-22-2008, 01:16 PM

NA 7M - Fail
Fake Smog - Fail/shame on you.

If you have the money/time/ability to fabricate then go for it. Why not? I do personally think that an NA 7M is going to be a waste of time.

I'm not saying get an SR or anything like that, I just think there are better options in choosing an "other than Nissan" engine.

PRADOgy · 05-22-2008, 01:17 PM

7m motor is just soo heavy .. but i wonder what the turn out would be like

Tulok · 05-22-2008, 01:21 PM

well, I really hate the supra, I just got it so cheap, and it ran great. If it really seems liek a BAD idea, then ill go single-cam KA or rb20 and sell the supra as is.

GSXRJJordan · 05-22-2008, 01:25 PM

Sounds like a horrible idea. Heavy, no power, no tuning options. (Not literally, just compared to all your other choices). I'm helping another member with his NA 2JZ swap in to a 240, that's bad enough... at least his'll be legal 270hp.

Why stick to SOHC or RB20? Those are another couple horrible choices. If you're going RB, at least go RB25, and if you're sticking with something "legal", there's no advantage to the single slammer.

PRADOgy · 05-22-2008, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulok

well, I really hate the supra, I just got it so cheap, and it ran great. If it really seems liek a BAD idea, then ill go single-cam KA or rb20 and sell the supra as is.

for just a 7m n/a .. it doesnt seem worth the time,.

slidingsky · 05-22-2008, 01:28 PM

^ HAHA single slammer.

If anything keep the Supra as is and keep it as your daily.

Build the 240 as you would want it.

Tulok · 05-22-2008, 01:31 PM

I wanted to either utilize the supra I hate, or go with something traditional. I always imagined a special edition RB20 s13, and I could just put a single cam in it to stay normal. I dont care if its legal or illegal, but I would probably only put a few motors in it:
RB20
KA24e or DE
CA18
NO SR's, I just dont want this car to have an SR20

EDIT

The supra could never be my daily because it gets about 18mpg highway. Just not willing to drive it every day for the cost it would be.

WISH ONE · 05-22-2008, 01:38 PM

The dudes from panda garage have a 7mgte swapped Corolla that is BAR legal.didnt ride in it however the claimed like 300whp or so. I thought that was kool, but a 7mge/gte seems like the rb20 of the toyota world. You have alot of other options more cost effective fabrication wise. its up to you if you have the money then do as you please.

Tulok · 05-22-2008, 02:13 PM

well thanks for the insight guys. 7mge=NO :P

SHIFT_*grind* · 05-22-2008, 02:32 PM

What's with all the ripping on the RB20?

Not as much power as an RB25, not as easy (/proven) to make power with as an SR, but they're cheap and not terribly hard to swap in. If you're trying to make 400WHP then it's probably not a good choice, but they're not bad motors.

Plus, every time I drive my current SR S13...I so badly miss the sound of my RB20.

8kred · 05-22-2008, 02:34 PM

yeah you can swap the body parts and make it look like a s13.

surge s14 · 05-22-2008, 03:14 PM

sound wise sr20det>rb20det ill give it that much but thats about it.

Tulok · 05-22-2008, 03:31 PM

It already has the S!3 conversion :P
I just like the rb20 because it is 6cyl turbo, has a sick sound and plenty of power for daily driver and drifting with a tune up + boosting.
I love the rb20 more than any other nissan engine :P

bigOdom1 · 05-22-2008, 03:38 PM

elementary math owns you rb20sound>sr20 sr20ease>rb20ease

slidingsky · 05-22-2008, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surge s14

sound wise sr20det>rb20det ill give it that much but thats about it.

Really? I don't really like the way it sounds. I'll take a CA over both.

WISH ONE · 05-22-2008, 05:59 PM

i do admit i like the sound of rb20 , but most inline 6's are going to sound like that anyhow. rbs are cheap, strong from what i hear, but i dont see the point.personal opinion id go sr.remember gas mileage also. I've ridden in two cars stock for stock, and after hearing a friend rave about how his rb20 was way better stock than an sr, after rode in it i was very dissapointed.My friend nick just finished his rb20 swap so ill ride in that, maybe drive it, and we'll see how it goes. I have not really seen any high hp rb20s.... maybe theres a reason for it lol. i rode in a CA car that felt good, but the guy seemed to have alot of issues with it. im not trying to flame, just givin you a point of view.

Chrischeezer · 05-22-2008, 06:21 PM

7mgte = the power to blow up on command

WISH ONE · 05-22-2008, 06:26 PM

^wha......???????=i dont know what that means.

burnsauto · 05-22-2008, 06:30 PM

ok guys, this is getting a little off topic. we don't need another pointless argument over what engine is better...

back on topic.

even though you've already made up your mind on the 7mgte, im glad you chose not to install it in the car. Parts for them are hard to find, and when you do...they're expensive. (im not talking performance, im talking simple things, mafs, ecu's, etc) The shop i work(ed) at just got done building a MKIII, thing was a nightmare the entire time.

Either way, good luck in you're engine venture.

sldbyuramg · 05-22-2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidingsky

NA 7M - Fail
Fake Smog - Fail/shame on you.

i agree with the NA 7m fail...but fake smog fail...i have to question you on that one. without fake smog nobody in cali would have any "good" options

WISH ONE · 05-22-2008, 06:53 PM

im dyin for fake smog right now lol... need it by 16th

irax · 05-23-2008, 12:58 AM

if every supra owner hates the shit out of their 7MGE why swap into anything else?

7MGTE is a different story,

still a waste of time

Dare i say a 2JZGE?

well worth it and COULD be legalized but who cares?

Tulok · 05-23-2008, 11:20 AM

I don't mind the 7mge, but I don't like the supra! Either way, I have already decided to sell the supra later when I need cash. for now, its 240sx restoration time. The car is an '89 100% complete and there isnt a dent on the whole car (except tiny usage ones). We just pulled the RB25 out of it last night. The agreement was that I pulled his motor, and I got the shell. Mr.booie helped out a lot! we pulled the motor in less than 3 hours. The rb25 was a pian and my friend lost interest in the 240sx, he is going to throw it in a '71 240z.
thanks guys, but I think this thread is done.

mr.booie · 05-23-2008, 11:56 AM

yea we got that motor out in no time!

05-22-2008, 01:13 PM	#1
Tulok Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SO CAL!!! Posts: 232 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	7MGE powered 240sx? I am going to receive a s13 240sx shell w/ a silvia front conversion soon, and I have an MA70 N/A supra that needs lots of love. Luckily, it runs extremely strong. I was wondering what the Zilvia crowd would think if I swapped the 7MGE into the 240sx, and if I could get some advice on the matter. oh, Did I mention it already has a fake smog certificate and it is EXTREMELY clean w/ a VLSD.

05-22-2008, 01:17 PM	#3
PRADOgy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Japan Age: 39 Posts: 1,161 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: PRADOgy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	7m motor is just soo heavy .. but i wonder what the turn out would be like __________________ しょうがない

05-22-2008, 01:25 PM	#5
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Sounds like a horrible idea. Heavy, no power, no tuning options. (Not literally, just compared to all your other choices). I'm helping another member with his NA 2JZ swap in to a 240, that's bad enough... at least his'll be legal 270hp. Why stick to SOHC or RB20? Those are another couple horrible choices. If you're going RB, at least go RB25, and if you're sticking with something "legal", there's no advantage to the single slammer. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

05-22-2008, 01:38 PM	#9
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,738 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	The dudes from panda garage have a 7mgte swapped Corolla that is BAR legal.didnt ride in it however the claimed like 300whp or so. I thought that was kool, but a 7mge/gte seems like the rb20 of the toyota world. You have alot of other options more cost effective fabrication wise. its up to you if you have the money then do as you please. __________________ PARTING/SELLING MY COUPE. PM ME.

05-22-2008, 02:32 PM	#11
SHIFT_grind Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NWA Age: 42 Posts: 2,066 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	What's with all the ripping on the RB20? Not as much power as an RB25, not as easy (/proven) to make power with as an SR, but they're cheap and not terribly hard to swap in. If you're trying to make 400WHP then it's probably not a good choice, but they're not bad motors. Plus, every time I drive my current SR S13...I so badly miss the sound of my RB20. __________________ My seller review thread

05-22-2008, 01:16 PM	#2
slidingsky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: slidingsky Feedback Score: 3 reviews	NA 7M - Fail Fake Smog - Fail/shame on you. If you have the money/time/ability to fabricate then go for it. Why not? I do personally think that an NA 7M is going to be a waste of time. I'm not saying get an SR or anything like that, I just think there are better options in choosing an "other than Nissan" engine.

05-22-2008, 01:21 PM	#4
Tulok Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SO CAL!!! Posts: 232 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	well, I really hate the supra, I just got it so cheap, and it ran great. If it really seems liek a BAD idea, then ill go single-cam KA or rb20 and sell the supra as is.

05-22-2008, 01:28 PM	#7
slidingsky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: slidingsky Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^ HAHA single slammer. If anything keep the Supra as is and keep it as your daily. Build the 240 as you would want it.

05-22-2008, 01:31 PM	#8
Tulok Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SO CAL!!! Posts: 232 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I wanted to either utilize the supra I hate, or go with something traditional. I always imagined a special edition RB20 s13, and I could just put a single cam in it to stay normal. I dont care if its legal or illegal, but I would probably only put a few motors in it: RB20 KA24e or DE CA18 NO SR's, I just dont want this car to have an SR20 EDIT The supra could never be my daily because it gets about 18mpg highway. Just not willing to drive it every day for the cost it would be.

05-22-2008, 02:13 PM	#10
Tulok Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SO CAL!!! Posts: 232 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	well thanks for the insight guys. 7mge=NO :P

05-22-2008, 02:34 PM	#12
8kred Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: nor-cal Posts: 306 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah you can swap the body parts and make it look like a s13. __________________

05-22-2008, 03:14 PM	#13
surge s14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Laredo Texas Posts: 1,125 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	sound wise sr20det>rb20det ill give it that much but thats about it. __________________

05-22-2008, 03:31 PM	#14
Tulok Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SO CAL!!! Posts: 232 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	It already has the S!3 conversion :P I just like the rb20 because it is 6cyl turbo, has a sick sound and plenty of power for daily driver and drifting with a tune up + boosting. I love the rb20 more than any other nissan engine :P

05-22-2008, 03:38 PM	#15
bigOdom1 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Auburn/Birmingham AL Age: 41 Posts: 1,817 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: bigOdom1 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	elementary math owns you rb20sound>sr20 sr20ease>rb20ease __________________ my car domain that good review thread

05-22-2008, 05:59 PM	#17
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,738 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	i do admit i like the sound of rb20 , but most inline 6's are going to sound like that anyhow. rbs are cheap, strong from what i hear, but i dont see the point.personal opinion id go sr.remember gas mileage also. I've ridden in two cars stock for stock, and after hearing a friend rave about how his rb20 was way better stock than an sr, after rode in it i was very dissapointed.My friend nick just finished his rb20 swap so ill ride in that, maybe drive it, and we'll see how it goes. I have not really seen any high hp rb20s.... maybe theres a reason for it lol. i rode in a CA car that felt good, but the guy seemed to have alot of issues with it. im not trying to flame, just givin you a point of view. __________________ PARTING/SELLING MY COUPE. PM ME.

05-22-2008, 06:21 PM	#18
Chrischeezer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: earth Age: 41 Posts: 1,406 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	7mgte = the power to blow up on command __________________

05-22-2008, 06:26 PM	#19
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,738 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	^wha......???????=i dont know what that means. __________________ PARTING/SELLING MY COUPE. PM ME.

05-22-2008, 06:30 PM	#20
burnsauto Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 717, PA Age: 39 Posts: 3,324 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: burnsauto Feedback Score: 6 reviews	ok guys, this is getting a little off topic. we don't need another pointless argument over what engine is better... back on topic. even though you've already made up your mind on the 7mgte, im glad you chose not to install it in the car. Parts for them are hard to find, and when you do...they're expensive. (im not talking performance, im talking simple things, mafs, ecu's, etc) The shop i work(ed) at just got done building a MKIII, thing was a nightmare the entire time. Either way, good luck in you're engine venture. __________________

05-22-2008, 06:53 PM	#22
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,738 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	im dyin for fake smog right now lol... need it by 16th __________________ PARTING/SELLING MY COUPE. PM ME.

05-23-2008, 12:58 AM	#23
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 41 Posts: 4,249 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	if every supra owner hates the shit out of their 7MGE why swap into anything else? 7MGTE is a different story, still a waste of time Dare i say a 2JZGE? well worth it and COULD be legalized but who cares? __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

05-23-2008, 11:20 AM	#24
Tulok Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SO CAL!!! Posts: 232 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I don't mind the 7mge, but I don't like the supra! Either way, I have already decided to sell the supra later when I need cash. for now, its 240sx restoration time. The car is an '89 100% complete and there isnt a dent on the whole car (except tiny usage ones). We just pulled the RB25 out of it last night. The agreement was that I pulled his motor, and I got the shell. Mr.booie helped out a lot! we pulled the motor in less than 3 hours. The rb25 was a pian and my friend lost interest in the 240sx, he is going to throw it in a '71 240z. thanks guys, but I think this thread is done.

05-23-2008, 11:56 AM	#25
mr.booie Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Palmdale 93551 Posts: 769 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	yea we got that motor out in no time!