is +4 offset on 15x7 wheel a little too extreme? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

chokudoriS13 · 12-05-2002, 02:25 PM

With an offset of +4 on 15x7 wheels, will the wheels/tires protrude out from the fenders?

Dousan_PG · 12-05-2002, 02:28 PM

YES (believe me i used have have some 0 and they stuck out about 1/2 inch)

fronts you can fix that w/ neg camber w/ camber plates
rear yuo need to go neg camber too. if you keep it stock, it will still stick out.

i had 0 offset on 7" wheel and even with -1.5 degrees neg camber on the rear it stuck out about 1/2 inch.

+4 is great for fronts! for rear, get a slightly higher offset. a +10 is jst about perfect (but you MUST use a thinner tire, like a 205/55 series). if you get the max size you can on the 7" it will still out more (the tires sidewall)

edit: what wheels are they too? just curious! hope my info helps out!

EDIT 2: if you have or plan to have z brakes on Front they will NOT CLEAR. if you keep stock brakes on they will clear. same goes for z brakes on back, wont clear on back if you go z brake on rear, but if you keep stock rear, they'll clear ok!

chokudoriS13 · 12-06-2002, 12:02 AM

The wheels are Hayashi Racing from the 80's. Gold mesh with an extremely fat lip. However, +4 sounds like a little too much. I'll just keep on searching... Thinking about some +25 old school SSR's. Thanks.

These are the Hayashi's.

logo20 · 12-06-2002, 12:18 AM

4mm offset is too much.  I saw a black 240 coupe(nice) today, but it had rims sticking out of the fenders and they look ugly.  
chokudoriS13,  how come body kit are ugly?

adey · 12-06-2002, 02:44 AM

how much is the guy asking? If it's a good deal, you can always work around these things. =) can you say "rolled fender"?

Edit: I have 15x7 +5 out rear, and they stick out about about a 1/2" or so... They DO rub the fender (actually just the left side... I wonder why), but only under heavy loads like hard cornering or going over big bumps/potholes at speed.  
If you can get these hayashis for a good price, I'd go for it. They may not even clear your stock front brakes; my 15x7+5s didn't!! It was weird. I like that lip though, it's looking good!

chokudoriS13 · 12-06-2002, 03:18 AM

They're on Ebay right now for $355 with several hours left(shipping would be $30 for me). Ebay is down, so I can't get the link for you.  The brake clearance issue worries me. What do you think of +25 offset? Would that work with stock brakes?

chokudoriS13 · 12-06-2002, 03:20 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I like that lip though, it's looking good! </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

That's what's killing me <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>. They look so incredible with that lip...If only there weren't fitment issues. I wish the seller was local, so I could at least test-fit them.

adey · 12-06-2002, 03:40 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chokudoriS13 @ Dec. 06 2002,02:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What do you think of +25 offset? Would that work with stock brakes?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
+25 should definitely work with stock brakes.
I put a pair of my 16x7 +35s on today, and they cleared my JDM chuki 180sx brakes just fine, with room to spare.

It all comes down, at this point, to spoke design. If your spokes are pretty "flat" on the inside (side facing hub/rotor) then you may have caliper clearance problems. If the spokes are "dished/raked/angled" on the inside, then they will more likely clear the brakes.

I guess try to get a shot of the backside (wooOOoo! ) of those rims, to figure out whether or not they'll fit.

$355 for hayashis is... well, not a BAD price, but you can get better. Maybe not in the same condition, though. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  I'd say go for it unless you can seriously ONLY afford one set of rims. You could probably sell these for what you paid (if not more) if they don't fit...

12-05-2002, 02:25 PM	#1
chokudoriS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 44 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	With an offset of +4 on 15x7 wheels, will the wheels/tires protrude out from the fenders? __________________ S13/86/Miatas/DR30/MX83/E36 M3/S60R/E30 M3 -gone! Now: Porsche 993/MK7 GTI

12-05-2002, 02:28 PM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	YES (believe me i used have have some 0 and they stuck out about 1/2 inch) fronts you can fix that w/ neg camber w/ camber plates rear yuo need to go neg camber too. if you keep it stock, it will still stick out. i had 0 offset on 7" wheel and even with -1.5 degrees neg camber on the rear it stuck out about 1/2 inch. +4 is great for fronts! for rear, get a slightly higher offset. a +10 is jst about perfect (but you MUST use a thinner tire, like a 205/55 series). if you get the max size you can on the 7" it will still out more (the tires sidewall) edit: what wheels are they too? just curious! hope my info helps out! EDIT 2: if you have or plan to have z brakes on Front they will NOT CLEAR. if you keep stock brakes on they will clear. same goes for z brakes on back, wont clear on back if you go z brake on rear, but if you keep stock rear, they'll clear ok! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

12-06-2002, 12:02 AM	#3
chokudoriS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 44 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The wheels are Hayashi Racing from the 80's. Gold mesh with an extremely fat lip. However, +4 sounds like a little too much. I'll just keep on searching... Thinking about some +25 old school SSR's. Thanks. These are the Hayashi's. __________________ S13/86/Miatas/DR30/MX83/E36 M3/S60R/E30 M3 -gone! Now: Porsche 993/MK7 GTI

12-06-2002, 12:18 AM	#4
logo20 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 345 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	4mm offset is too much.  I saw a black 240 coupe(nice) today, but it had rims sticking out of the fenders and they look ugly.   chokudoriS13,  how come body kit are ugly? __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/logo20

12-06-2002, 02:44 AM	#5
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how much is the guy asking? If it's a good deal, you can always work around these things. =) can you say "rolled fender"? Edit: I have 15x7 +5 out rear, and they stick out about about a 1/2" or so... They DO rub the fender (actually just the left side... I wonder why), but only under heavy loads like hard cornering or going over big bumps/potholes at speed.   If you can get these hayashis for a good price, I'd go for it. They may not even clear your stock front brakes; my 15x7+5s didn't!! It was weird. I like that lip though, it's looking good! __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

12-06-2002, 03:18 AM	#6
chokudoriS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 44 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	They're on Ebay right now for $355 with several hours left(shipping would be $30 for me). Ebay is down, so I can't get the link for you.  The brake clearance issue worries me. What do you think of +25 offset? Would that work with stock brakes? __________________ S13/86/Miatas/DR30/MX83/E36 M3/S60R/E30 M3 -gone! Now: Porsche 993/MK7 GTI

12-06-2002, 03:20 AM	#7
chokudoriS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 44 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I like that lip though, it's looking good! </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> That's what's killing me <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>. They look so incredible with that lip...If only there weren't fitment issues. I wish the seller was local, so I could at least test-fit them. __________________ S13/86/Miatas/DR30/MX83/E36 M3/S60R/E30 M3 -gone! Now: Porsche 993/MK7 GTI

12-06-2002, 03:40 AM	#8
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chokudoriS13 @ Dec. 06 2002,02:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What do you think of +25 offset? Would that work with stock brakes?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> +25 should definitely work with stock brakes. I put a pair of my 16x7 +35s on today, and they cleared my JDM chuki 180sx brakes just fine, with room to spare. It all comes down, at this point, to spoke design. If your spokes are pretty "flat" on the inside (side facing hub/rotor) then you may have caliper clearance problems. If the spokes are "dished/raked/angled" on the inside, then they will more likely clear the brakes. I guess try to get a shot of the backside (wooOOoo! ) of those rims, to figure out whether or not they'll fit. $355 for hayashis is... well, not a BAD price, but you can get better. Maybe not in the same condition, though. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  I'd say go for it unless you can seriously ONLY afford one set of rims. You could probably sell these for what you paid (if not more) if they don't fit... __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG