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usajdm · 11-25-2008, 01:51 AM

So I just popped in a new ILC in my 89 and found the new one to have an extra 2wire harness with clip.
This is the first ILC Ive replaced on a 240sx so I wasnt sure if I was missing something, but I figured its a wire hook-up for an alternative car that uses the same part.
Its not a huge deal since it didnt effect the install or operation.
Im just wondering what its for.

I10cruiser · 11-25-2008, 01:54 AM

maybe ignition key light?

g6civcx · 11-25-2008, 06:24 AM

There are two 2-pin harnesses for the ignition switch:

E106 - key lock solenoid. When you supply current to this harness, it locks the key in the ignition switch. It's used on auto cars so you can't take the key out in R, N, or D1/2/3/4.

E107 - key switch. This one detects if the key is still in the ignition switch and reminds you when you open the door by sounding the chime.

The brown one is E106 and is not needed on manual cars.

g6civcx · 11-25-2008, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by I10cruiser

maybe ignition key light?

Close. S13s don't have ignition key light. See above for correct answer.

surreybc · 11-25-2008, 09:18 AM

his is e107?

surreybc · 11-25-2008, 09:19 AM

how to disable steering lock on 240sx hb 1991: 240SX Technical Forum: Nissan Forums / Infiniti Forums - NICOclub

g6civcx · 11-25-2008, 10:32 AM

See for yourself. From the FSM. Note that if you use aftermarket ignition switches the wires may be different colour but the harness should be the same shape. Look at the wires on the corresponding harness on the body harness side to be sure.

g6civcx · 11-25-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by surreybc

how to disable steering lock on 240sx hb 1991: 240SX Technical Forum: Nissan Forums / Infiniti Forums - NICOclub

That's for removing the steering column lock when the key is not turned to ACC or ON. Not related to his original question.

surreybc · 11-25-2008, 11:57 AM

ok. thanks. i dont get a picture when i click the imageshack thumbnails. imageshack thumbnails dont work anywhere for me .

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Originally Posted by g6civcx

See for yourself. From the FSM. Note that if you use aftermarket ignition switches the wires may be different colour but the harness should be the same shape. Look at the wires on the corresponding harness on the body harness side to be sure.

surreybc · 11-25-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by g6civcx

That's for removing the steering column lock when the key is not turned to ACC or ON. Not related to his original question.

the title is misleading. the tutorial covers complete disassembly and somewhere it does mention that its a sensor for the door chime.

g6civcx · 11-25-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by surreybc

the title is misleading. the tutorial covers complete disassembly and somewhere it does mention that its a sensor for the door chime.

Can you quote the article? I don't see what you're talking about.

surreybc · 11-25-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by g6civcx

Can you quote the article? I don't see what you're talking about.

1991-1994 240sx: Ignition switch/lock assembly replacement: 240SX Forum / 180SX Forum / Silvia Forum: Nissan Forums / Infiniti Forums - NICOclub

on nov5 moulton describes what the circled part is for

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g6civcx · 11-25-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by surreybc

1991-1994 240sx: Ignition switch/lock assembly replacement: 240SX Forum / 180SX Forum / Silvia Forum: Nissan Forums / Infiniti Forums - NICOclub

on nov5 moulton describes what the circled part is for

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I hear you. I will check for you later today. I'll tell you exactly which is which.

surreybc · 11-25-2008, 04:51 PM

i'm agreeing with you. the wiring diagrams give the harness wire colours. the wire colours at the individual parts are always different from harness wire.

I took apart the other end of the wire with white connector and grey foam. it slides onto the lock assembly.

g6civcx · 11-25-2008, 05:13 PM

I knew it but I just checked to be sure. My car is manual. I don't even have E106 on my car. It's the small connector that is circled in the different pictures.

I have E107, which is the key lock switch. I measured continuity between the two pins, and there is continuity when the key is in and no continuity when the key is out.

So we have concensus from at least the two of us. The OP's question is the E106 key lock solenoid harness. It's used on auto and not needed.

You may want to let the people on NICO know

surreybc · 11-25-2008, 05:47 PM

oh oh, I took apart the the wire with the brown connector. it has electromagnet that controls a piston. its definitely a solenoid. i assume the one with with white connector sends signal to chime when piston is in or out by key being put in. I'm agreeing with your fsm picture now. I'm agreeing with you now, i think.

To clarify, I'm saying that the wire the OP circled is connected to is a solenoid that controls a latch. I dont think it sends any signal.

usajdm · 11-25-2008, 08:40 PM

Checked it today.....
Yes, it is the the keylock for use with automatics.

11-25-2008, 01:51 AM	#1
usajdm Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: east bay ca. Posts: 458 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ignition lock cylinder wire? So I just popped in a new ILC in my 89 and found the new one to have an extra 2wire harness with clip. This is the first ILC Ive replaced on a 240sx so I wasnt sure if I was missing something, but I figured its a wire hook-up for an alternative car that uses the same part. Its not a huge deal since it didnt effect the install or operation. Im just wondering what its for. __________________ What the hell is "BALLER" or "GANGSTER" status, about a 240sx?

11-25-2008, 01:54 AM	#2
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11-25-2008, 06:24 AM	#3
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	There are two 2-pin harnesses for the ignition switch: E106 - key lock solenoid. When you supply current to this harness, it locks the key in the ignition switch. It's used on auto cars so you can't take the key out in R, N, or D1/2/3/4. E107 - key switch. This one detects if the key is still in the ignition switch and reminds you when you open the door by sounding the chime. The brown one is E106 and is not needed on manual cars. Last edited by g6civcx; 11-25-2008 at 10:23 AM..

11-25-2008, 04:51 PM	#14
surreybc Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: surrey Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i'm agreeing with you. the wiring diagrams give the harness wire colours. the wire colours at the individual parts are always different from harness wire. I took apart the other end of the wire with white connector and grey foam. it slides onto the lock assembly. Last edited by surreybc; 11-25-2008 at 07:34 PM..

11-25-2008, 05:47 PM	#16
surreybc Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: surrey Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	oh oh, I took apart the the wire with the brown connector. it has electromagnet that controls a piston. its definitely a solenoid. i assume the one with with white connector sends signal to chime when piston is in or out by key being put in. I'm agreeing with your fsm picture now. I'm agreeing with you now, i think. To clarify, I'm saying that the wire the OP circled is connected to is a solenoid that controls a latch. I dont think it sends any signal. Last edited by surreybc; 11-25-2008 at 07:56 PM..

11-25-2008, 09:18 AM	#5
surreybc Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: surrey Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	his is e107?

11-25-2008, 09:19 AM	#6
surreybc Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: surrey Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	how to disable steering lock on 240sx hb 1991: 240SX Technical Forum: Nissan Forums / Infiniti Forums - NICOclub

11-25-2008, 10:32 AM	#7
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	See for yourself. From the FSM. Note that if you use aftermarket ignition switches the wires may be different colour but the harness should be the same shape. Look at the wires on the corresponding harness on the body harness side to be sure.

11-25-2008, 05:13 PM	#15
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I knew it but I just checked to be sure. My car is manual. I don't even have E106 on my car. It's the small connector that is circled in the different pictures. I have E107, which is the key lock switch. I measured continuity between the two pins, and there is continuity when the key is in and no continuity when the key is out. So we have concensus from at least the two of us. The OP's question is the E106 key lock solenoid harness. It's used on auto and not needed. You may want to let the people on NICO know

11-25-2008, 08:40 PM	#17
usajdm Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: east bay ca. Posts: 458 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Checked it today..... Yes, it is the the keylock for use with automatics. __________________ What the hell is "BALLER" or "GANGSTER" status, about a 240sx?