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dued · 03-22-2009, 12:20 PM

Hi, I recently ordered solid aluminum subframe bushings, but they're on backorder so I haven't been charged. I was wondering If I should cancel the order and get subframe spacers instead. The reason I want full replacement of the bushings is so I'll never have to replace again, with subframe spacers will I eventually have to take those out and replace the bushings at some point?

Bigsyke · 03-22-2009, 12:31 PM

Dont get spacers, get the poly/solid bushings.

gijoe69 · 03-22-2009, 12:48 PM

spacers last only for a good while then u will feel it so get the pineapple poly's!

racepar1 · 03-22-2009, 01:08 PM

Maybe YEARS down the line you will have to replace the bushings anyways, but it is nowhere near an immediate concern. The collars make a huge difference too, I've been running some kazama ones for years. While it would be nice to get the solid bushings, they are not really necessary. Just make sure that if you get spacers you get some aluminum ones, not some cheap ass plastic ones.

TravisSW · 03-22-2009, 01:13 PM

Hmm, what if stock bushings are like shot to hell? I have that clunking noise in the back. Spacers or just replace dem biches? :P

racepar1 · 03-22-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TravisSW

Hmm, what if stock bushings are like shot to hell? I have that clunking noise in the back. Spacers or just replace dem biches? :P

If your bushings are totally shot to all hell then you may need to get the full bushings. Find a set of collars in the f/s section or post a wtb and try them. They go for like $30 used so what do you have to lose? If they don't work sell them and get your money back then buy bushings.

garagelu · 03-22-2009, 01:37 PM

yea, I am extremely happy with my spacers. I had a subframe clunk problem last year and thought I would have to replace the whole bushing. Turns out the rubber still looks awesome on the bushings. Not sure what was causing the clunk. In the end I bought some spl parts spacers and now my car rides like a new car almost.

dued · 03-22-2009, 05:54 PM

Yeah my stock bushings are so worn out that it has become a necessity to replace and based on these replies it seems as though I will need to replace the complete bushing.

Marcus · 03-22-2009, 05:57 PM

you could go to psm and order some subframe risers. they'll help correct suspension geometry. im gettin some and im excited.

240sx354 · 03-22-2009, 06:19 PM

you could do like me and replace them with Nismo Subframe bushings...

Ktown_drifter · 03-22-2009, 07:13 PM

be baller.. get the solids

the collars are nice an work well for a DD .. but it also lowers your subframe.. inturn raising your car.. in turn you need to lower the car more to be the same height affecting the geometry even more

Bigsyke · 03-22-2009, 09:47 PM

^^^the fuck? your subframe is floating. I can spin the collars by finger with the subframe torqued at 80 lbs/ft. It doesnt raise your car.

When I went to install the collars, 2 out of the 4 bushings fell out. All 4 bushings were torn, but 2 of them were siezed to the stud, after I unfroze them I could remove the rubber/bearing. They are absolutely no substitue for bushings. Go for solid bushings IMO.

TravisSW · 03-22-2009, 11:27 PM

Another quick question, if anybody has any shots. Can I get a pic of your rear subframe. My mechanic and I noticed that the rear subframe bushings don't look right. Like it isn't the stock assembly/parts holding them up. O.o

The Stig · 03-23-2009, 12:54 AM

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JRas · 03-24-2009, 10:58 AM

what is the use of the car?

03-22-2009, 12:20 PM	#1
dued Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Replace Subframe Bushings or Spacers? Hi, I recently ordered solid aluminum subframe bushings, but they're on backorder so I haven't been charged. I was wondering If I should cancel the order and get subframe spacers instead. The reason I want full replacement of the bushings is so I'll never have to replace again, with subframe spacers will I eventually have to take those out and replace the bushings at some point?

03-22-2009, 01:13 PM	#5
TravisSW Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Age: 40 Posts: 2,071 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Hmm, what if stock bushings are like shot to hell? I have that clunking noise in the back. Spacers or just replace dem biches? :P __________________ 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo (951) 1995 Nissan 240sx (S14) Miss ya.

03-22-2009, 07:13 PM	#11
Ktown_drifter Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Napanee Ontario Canada Age: 40 Posts: 278 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	be baller.. get the solids the collars are nice an work well for a DD .. but it also lowers your subframe.. inturn raising your car.. in turn you need to lower the car more to be the same height affecting the geometry even more __________________ 613driftwerks.ca

03-22-2009, 11:27 PM	#13
TravisSW Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Age: 40 Posts: 2,071 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Another quick question, if anybody has any shots. Can I get a pic of your rear subframe. My mechanic and I noticed that the rear subframe bushings don't look right. Like it isn't the stock assembly/parts holding them up. O.o __________________ 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo (951) 1995 Nissan 240sx (S14) Miss ya.

03-24-2009, 10:58 AM	#15
JRas Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 36 Posts: 1,503 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	what is the use of the car? __________________

03-22-2009, 12:31 PM	#2
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 40 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dont get spacers, get the poly/solid bushings.

03-22-2009, 12:48 PM	#3
gijoe69 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Age: 40 Posts: 366 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	spacers last only for a good while then u will feel it so get the pineapple poly's!

03-22-2009, 01:08 PM	#4
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	Maybe YEARS down the line you will have to replace the bushings anyways, but it is nowhere near an immediate concern. The collars make a huge difference too, I've been running some kazama ones for years. While it would be nice to get the solid bushings, they are not really necessary. Just make sure that if you get spacers you get some aluminum ones, not some cheap ass plastic ones.

03-22-2009, 01:37 PM	#7
garagelu Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 40 Posts: 1,856 Trader Rating: (60) Feedback Score: 60 reviews	yea, I am extremely happy with my spacers. I had a subframe clunk problem last year and thought I would have to replace the whole bushing. Turns out the rubber still looks awesome on the bushings. Not sure what was causing the clunk. In the end I bought some spl parts spacers and now my car rides like a new car almost.

03-22-2009, 05:54 PM	#8
dued Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Yeah my stock bushings are so worn out that it has become a necessity to replace and based on these replies it seems as though I will need to replace the complete bushing.

03-22-2009, 05:57 PM	#9
Marcus Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 2,087 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	you could go to psm and order some subframe risers. they'll help correct suspension geometry. im gettin some and im excited.

03-22-2009, 06:19 PM	#10
240sx354 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT Age: 37 Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you could do like me and replace them with Nismo Subframe bushings...

03-22-2009, 09:47 PM	#12
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 40 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^the fuck? your subframe is floating. I can spin the collars by finger with the subframe torqued at 80 lbs/ft. It doesnt raise your car. When I went to install the collars, 2 out of the 4 bushings fell out. All 4 bushings were torn, but 2 of them were siezed to the stud, after I unfroze them I could remove the rubber/bearing. They are absolutely no substitue for bushings. Go for solid bushings IMO.

03-23-2009, 12:54 AM	#14
The Stig Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Covina Posts: 88 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	SUBFRAME BUSHING INSTALLATION TUTORIAL (WITH PICS)!: Tires, Wheels, Brakes and Suspension: Nissan Forums / Infiniti Forums - NICOclub very first picture