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normaspirated · 03-10-2003, 01:21 PM

I think either my clutch is fried or there's something else that's wrong. Two nights ago, I was driving home at like 5 in the morning. There was nothing wrong at the time. That same morning I had to go to work at 7 am . I started my car and let it warm up. After about 10 min., I started to leave to go to work. I attempted to put it in reverse, but it wasn't going in. So, I kind of forced it in and it grinded. I took it out of reverse and tried putting it in the other gears. The weren't getting in there. I had to press the clutch a couple times before it would go in smoothly (the shifter getting in gear). I thought nothing of it and went to work. When I was leaving work to go home, it was doing the same things again (not getting in gear as if I was trying to shift without pressing the clutch). I got home and I started to feel a bit concerned. So when I started my car again to go somewhere, the clutch was light as a fuc**** feather. There was like NO resistance at all. Oh yeah, I can't put it in gear anymore because I'm pretty sure the clutch isn't engaging with the flywheel. So, what do you guys think? Sorry for such a long post.

AKADriver · 03-10-2003, 01:31 PM

Sounds like the clutch master cylinder. Sadly, a pretty common problem.

normaspirated · 03-10-2003, 01:39 PM

S.O.B. *sigh* Can you give me an idea of how much it would cost to replace a clutch master cylinder? *angry*

*HaLo* · 03-10-2003, 01:48 PM

not much.

a rebuilt master cylinder here is 70$cdn... that's roughly 50$ your currency.

add 1-2 hours of labor or do it yourself and voilÃ*!

DamnedButDetermined · 03-10-2003, 03:46 PM

first get a friend over to your house. Wiggle yourself under the car and have your friend pump the clutch. ( if it doesn't get stuck to the floor) Once he pumps it a few times you should be able to see if the slave cylinder is leaking. If not then check the master cylinder. (it doesn't matter what order you do this)

Mine would get stuck to the floor and fluid would leak out of the slave cylinder. I got a rebuilt one for $24 and it fixed the problem!

nrcooled · 03-10-2003, 05:22 PM

these are very cheap and easy fixes so don't sweat it

Get yourself a friend and a Chilton's manual and you will be on your way in no time at all

nismofeind · 03-10-2003, 09:30 PM

its one of you cyclinders just make sure you know which one. slave is on the tranny and its about $34. master is next to your brake master cyclinder and its abour $50.

mine was the Master. it works great now.

mine wasn't leaking however i bleed it once and it was a tad better. but when i changed my MC i took out my comfort box(a box with 3 lines runing in to it one from MC, one nylon hose and one to my Slave.) that is known to trap air. take it out bend the MC line to the slave line and they screw right in to each other that should solve your problem but will give you a slightly harder pedal.

normaspirated · 03-10-2003, 11:49 PM

Thanks for all the replies guys. Well, its obvious its not the clutch...so...I'm going to go ahead and check the clutch clylinders. Hopefully, changing either one of these (master or slave) is cake to fix!

adey · 03-11-2003, 02:30 AM

To see if its your master cylinder, look around your clutch pedal for fluid, and look around the MC area under the hood for leaks. If it's damp around any of these areas, it's your MC. If not, it may be your slave cylinder, which is under the car on the passenger side, near where the tranny and engine mate up.

Good luck; changing the MC is an easy fix, it's just annoying to have to get under the car and bleed the damn thing when you're done! =)

Fireball240SX · 03-11-2003, 06:06 AM

My Clutch Master Cylinder just went out last week u can get a cheapo at Advance Auto Parts for $30 and it took less than 45min

normaspirated · 03-11-2003, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fireball240SX
My Clutch Master Cylinder just went out last week u can get a cheapo at Advance Auto Parts for $30 and it took less than 45min

Really? What tools would I need exactly? Could I do it by myself w/o any help from anybody? Sorry for all these questions. Sometimes this car gets me so frustrated that I want to get rid of it

. But, I don't want to go back to any FWD vehicle.

Thanks for the replies.

DamnedButDetermined · 03-11-2003, 01:43 PM

you can do both of them by yorself, but you will need a friend when everything is installed to work the clutch pedal when you bleed the lines. Good luck

MorganS13 · 03-11-2003, 02:19 PM

i changed both my slave and master cylinder for less than $100, i've heard its around $250 at a dealer to have them do it. take it from me, if i can change them so can u

the head · 03-11-2003, 03:32 PM

there are two nuts on the MC plus a pin that needs to be pulled at the top of the clutch pedal in the car and the one line going down that's it for the MC
slave cyl is two anchor bolts and one line

normaspirated · 03-17-2003, 09:56 AM

Update:

Well, when I said that there was fluid in the reservoir, I was wrong

I just assumed that the reservoir was full because it looked like a dark purple that took up the shape of the reservoir. Well, I pryed off the cap and there was NO fluid. I poured in some brake fluid up to max and it still DID NOT solve the problem. I checked underneath near the pedals to see if there's any fluid leaking near there and there wasn't any. So, right now there's fluid in the reservoir and the clutch pedal is still VERY light to push down on, but does go back up to the original position when I dump it. Do you guys think it's just the slave cylinder? Help me out! Thanks guys.

-Nissan total newb

MorganS13 · 03-17-2003, 10:45 AM

you have to get a friend and bleed the system. try and search and i'm sure you can find a procedure somewhere on here. its not too hard at all, sounds like you have air in your system and you'll wanna check your slave cylinder to make sure its not leaking.

03-10-2003, 01:21 PM	#1
normaspirated Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Chicago Age: 43 Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Clutch help? I think either my clutch is fried or there's something else that's wrong. Two nights ago, I was driving home at like 5 in the morning. There was nothing wrong at the time. That same morning I had to go to work at 7 am . I started my car and let it warm up. After about 10 min., I started to leave to go to work. I attempted to put it in reverse, but it wasn't going in. So, I kind of forced it in and it grinded. I took it out of reverse and tried putting it in the other gears. The weren't getting in there. I had to press the clutch a couple times before it would go in smoothly (the shifter getting in gear). I thought nothing of it and went to work. When I was leaving work to go home, it was doing the same things again (not getting in gear as if I was trying to shift without pressing the clutch). I got home and I started to feel a bit concerned. So when I started my car again to go somewhere, the clutch was light as a fuc**** feather. There was like NO resistance at all. Oh yeah, I can't put it in gear anymore because I'm pretty sure the clutch isn't engaging with the flywheel. So, what do you guys think? Sorry for such a long post. __________________ And try to be nice to my sisters. It's very hard on me to have you fighting all the time. -Marge Oh, OK Marge, I'll get along with them. Then, I will hug some snakes...yes! Then, I will hug and kiss some poisonous snakes ... -Homer

03-10-2003, 01:39 PM	#3
normaspirated Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Chicago Age: 43 Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S.O.B. sigh Can you give me an idea of how much it would cost to replace a clutch master cylinder? angry __________________ And try to be nice to my sisters. It's very hard on me to have you fighting all the time. -Marge Oh, OK Marge, I'll get along with them. Then, I will hug some snakes...yes! Then, I will hug and kiss some poisonous snakes ... -Homer

03-10-2003, 01:48 PM	#4
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	not much. a rebuilt master cylinder here is 70$cdn... that's roughly 50$ your currency. add 1-2 hours of labor or do it yourself and voilÃ! __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD*: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

03-10-2003, 05:22 PM	#6
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 46 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	these are very cheap and easy fixes so don't sweat it Get yourself a friend and a Chilton's manual and you will be on your way in no time at all __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

03-10-2003, 11:49 PM	#8
normaspirated Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Chicago Age: 43 Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks for all the replies guys. Well, its obvious its not the clutch...so...I'm going to go ahead and check the clutch clylinders. Hopefully, changing either one of these (master or slave) is cake to fix! __________________ And try to be nice to my sisters. It's very hard on me to have you fighting all the time. -Marge Oh, OK Marge, I'll get along with them. Then, I will hug some snakes...yes! Then, I will hug and kiss some poisonous snakes ... -Homer

03-10-2003, 01:31 PM	#2
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,518 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Sounds like the clutch master cylinder. Sadly, a pretty common problem.

03-10-2003, 03:46 PM	#5
DamnedButDetermined Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Jax, Fl Age: 43 Posts: 637 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	first get a friend over to your house. Wiggle yourself under the car and have your friend pump the clutch. ( if it doesn't get stuck to the floor) Once he pumps it a few times you should be able to see if the slave cylinder is leaking. If not then check the master cylinder. (it doesn't matter what order you do this) Mine would get stuck to the floor and fluid would leak out of the slave cylinder. I got a rebuilt one for $24 and it fixed the problem!

03-10-2003, 09:30 PM	#7
nismofeind Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 142 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	its one of you cyclinders just make sure you know which one. slave is on the tranny and its about $34. master is next to your brake master cyclinder and its abour $50. mine was the Master. it works great now. mine wasn't leaking however i bleed it once and it was a tad better. but when i changed my MC i took out my comfort box(a box with 3 lines runing in to it one from MC, one nylon hose and one to my Slave.) that is known to trap air. take it out bend the MC line to the slave line and they screw right in to each other that should solve your problem but will give you a slightly harder pedal.

03-11-2003, 02:30 AM	#9
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	To see if its your master cylinder, look around your clutch pedal for fluid, and look around the MC area under the hood for leaks. If it's damp around any of these areas, it's your MC. If not, it may be your slave cylinder, which is under the car on the passenger side, near where the tranny and engine mate up. Good luck; changing the MC is an easy fix, it's just annoying to have to get under the car and bleed the damn thing when you're done! =) __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

03-11-2003, 06:06 AM	#10
Fireball240SX Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lancaster, PA Age: 42 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My Clutch Master Cylinder just went out last week u can get a cheapo at Advance Auto Parts for $30 and it took less than 45min __________________ 2 Liter is my Weapon of Choice

03-11-2003, 01:43 PM	#12
DamnedButDetermined Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Jax, Fl Age: 43 Posts: 637 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you can do both of them by yorself, but you will need a friend when everything is installed to work the clutch pedal when you bleed the lines. Good luck

03-11-2003, 02:19 PM	#13
MorganS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 707 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i changed both my slave and master cylinder for less than $100, i've heard its around $250 at a dealer to have them do it. take it from me, if i can change them so can u

03-11-2003, 03:32 PM	#14
the head Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: in a dark room mastering the art of typing with one hand Posts: 2,164 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	there are two nuts on the MC plus a pin that needs to be pulled at the top of the clutch pedal in the car and the one line going down that's it for the MC slave cyl is two anchor bolts and one line

03-17-2003, 09:56 AM	#15
normaspirated Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Chicago Age: 43 Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Update: Well, when I said that there was fluid in the reservoir, I was wrong I just assumed that the reservoir was full because it looked like a dark purple that took up the shape of the reservoir. Well, I pryed off the cap and there was NO fluid. I poured in some brake fluid up to max and it still DID NOT solve the problem. I checked underneath near the pedals to see if there's any fluid leaking near there and there wasn't any. So, right now there's fluid in the reservoir and the clutch pedal is still VERY light to push down on, but does go back up to the original position when I dump it. Do you guys think it's just the slave cylinder? Help me out! Thanks guys. -Nissan total newb __________________ And try to be nice to my sisters. It's very hard on me to have you fighting all the time. -Marge Oh, OK Marge, I'll get along with them. Then, I will hug some snakes...yes! Then, I will hug and kiss some poisonous snakes ... -Homer

03-17-2003, 10:45 AM	#16
MorganS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 707 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you have to get a friend and bleed the system. try and search and i'm sure you can find a procedure somewhere on here. its not too hard at all, sounds like you have air in your system and you'll wanna check your slave cylinder to make sure its not leaking.