hydrolic E-Brake - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

flytwa78 · 07-07-2007, 09:16 AM

I was wondering what is the general opinion on converting to hydrolic E-brakes for the S-14

I am going to do brake upgrade with brembo calipers (from an R33 GTR, got it for free) with Project Mu dics. Then a friend suggested switching the E-brakes to Hydrolic ones using the calipers to lock up. I was considering this since it may be easier to do (instead of dealing with the drum e-brake, which I still need to purchase).

What do you guys think, use the drum ones or the hydrolic ones?

mr_240sx · 07-07-2007, 09:22 AM

in your scenerio seems like hydrualic e-brake would make sense....thats what im doing with my drift car as well because i got s15 rear calipers and the ebrake cables dont work with the s13 chassis.

Dousan_PG · 07-07-2007, 09:24 AM

drum
hydro is only ON OFF
with drum u have more control

i would never do hydro
ive driven a few cars with it. ugh. it sucks, imo
less effort, but if u cant do that with stock (and yes stock is easy to make work FANTASTIC)
then you shouldnt be drifting.

420sx · 07-07-2007, 09:40 AM

just upgrade your stock rear with nice pads lines and get a staging brake for the cabin.

same thing as hydro, its inline slave, so you still use brakes as normal but u can use just rear by pulling the handle.

really no need to upgrade rear to bigger, most braking is in the front. imho.

rps13drift · 07-07-2007, 09:42 AM

I just installed a hydro e-brake in my track car! A real lot of work is involved to get it in/working right but i think its rad!

McRussellPants · 07-07-2007, 01:30 PM

Im putting one in right now.

its not easier by any means.

and wether or not it works better is a matter of opinion.

I bought the kit from Driftworks in the UK, its got a smaller master than the bonerjam CNC kits, so we'll see if it haves the controllability that dousans talking about.

driftenthusiast · 07-07-2007, 04:30 PM

Its not hard to install if you use stainless steel flexible lines instead of hard line. the is a place in the front to hook in to and a place in the rear pretty straight forward.

nissan_driver24 · 07-07-2007, 04:39 PM

what's wrong with drum brakes in the back??? i just installed them on my car and they work perfect. I was considering using a hydro e-brake but why do that when there's something offered stock from nissan. plus using a drum brake for like drifting would be nice cause u don't heat up the caliper to lock up the wheel during lets say drifting... can't beat two with one...

i'm not sure if i make any sence to any1 i'm kinda exhausted from work...

LB.Motoring · 07-07-2007, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

drum
hydro is only ON OFF
with drum u have more control

i would never do hydro
ive driven a few cars with it. ugh. it sucks, imo
less effort, but if u cant do that with stock (and yes stock is easy to make work FANTASTIC)
then you shouldnt be drifting.

its true,

you can scrub off some speed with out Fully locking up the rear, it gives you a little more control, rather than an On Off situation,

you should just stick with the stock ebrake drum setup, and call it a day.

PoorMans180SX · 10-26-2007, 06:33 PM

Personally I think more control could be had if everyone didn't use those lightning-pole-long e-brake handles, and a smaller slave, like some kits come with.

Who likes to work on drum brakes?

Sorry for the bump of a old thead, but I'd like to start more discussion on this.

rps13drift · 10-26-2007, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo711

Personally I think more control could be had if everyone didn't use those lightning-pole-long e-brake handles, and a smaller slave, like some kits come with.

Who likes to work on drum brakes?

Sorry for the bump of a old thead, but I'd like to start more discussion on this.

You mean something like this? Im using a cncbrakes.com hydro staging brake for my ebrake. I believe there is a write up on this particular one on here some where so all your question can be answered! if not pm me and ill answer them!

Slip&Sliden 240 · 10-26-2007, 10:42 PM

Here is my CNC brakes, brake.

s13coupedrfter · 10-27-2007, 06:47 AM

I've had my hydro e-brake for the last 5 events and I love it! The whole project cost around 300 bucks. One thing about the unit is before you install keep in mind that after you bleed it the throw is shortened alot.

You can see how I spliced into the rear brake line with braided line for ease of install.

PoorMans180SX · 10-27-2007, 11:13 AM

Nice pic. Thanks.

Anyone use shorter handles? for less leverage and the ability to adjust brake lock more?

s13coupedrfter · 10-27-2007, 09:03 PM

Instead of guessing about leverage before you even install it, try it first then adjust as needed.

projectRDM · 10-27-2007, 10:48 PM

I don't see the need for any of this, an ebrake is just a parking brake. Park the car, engage the brake. Hell I used to carry around a brick in the trunk, works fine, and really damn cheap too.

dkwasherexd · 08-29-2009, 06:13 PM

has anybody tried this on a fc? I need to do something about my ebrake, its completely dead... i replaced new pads,a nd tightened all the cables, now its dead..

GSXRJJordan · 08-29-2009, 06:50 PM

It's HYDRAULIC for Christ's sake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

drum
hydro is only ON OFF
with drum u have more control

i would never do hydro
ive driven a few cars with it. ugh. it sucks, imo
less effort, but if u cant do that with stock (and yes stock is easy to make work FANTASTIC)
then you shouldnt be drifting.

Drive my car next time we're at an event together. I run the CNC Brakes 3/4" inline brake with their handle braking Z32 rears with semi-metallic street pads, and I have tons of control. Can just give it a squeeze to balance the car in a corner, or slam it to instantly lock my 285/30/18 Pirelli PZeros.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rps13drift

I just installed a hydro e-brake in my track car! A real lot of work is involved to get it in/working right but i think its rad!

It was one of the simpler things I've done, but maybe that's just me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rps13drift

You mean something like this? Im using a cncbrakes.com hydro staging brake for my ebrake. I believe there is a write up on this particular one on here some where so all your question can be answered! if not pm me and ill answer them!

Exactly the unit I use. It's perfect. $90 + $100 or so for the lines. My write up is in the Fabrication Thread, but here's some pics:

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

I don't see the need for any of this, an ebrake is just a parking brake. Park the car, engage the brake. Hell I used to carry around a brick in the trunk, works fine, and really damn cheap too.

Drifting man. Drifting. Trust me Russ, it's popular lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkwasherexd

has anybody tried this on a fc? I need to do something about my ebrake, its completely dead... i replaced new pads,a nd tightened all the cables, now its dead..

Exactly the same process as a 240.

I can install this in anyone's car locally for less than $300, with the plate so your trans tunnel won't flex. I even got my interior pieces to fit around it with just a tiny bit of cutting. Being able to modulate the rear wheels easier than turning down the volume on the radio is the shit.

lazysk8er2 · 08-29-2009, 06:58 PM

lol at the responses 2 years later hahaha...awesome

GSXRJJordan · 08-29-2009, 07:07 PM

Oh god, super fail. Thx DK.

dkwasherexd · 09-14-2009, 11:20 PM

hahaa thx for he info.. Just that my stock ebrake no longer works and want to go hydro.. I will do this..

07-07-2007, 09:16 AM	#1
flytwa78 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Guam Posts: 115 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hydrolic E-Brake I was wondering what is the general opinion on converting to hydrolic E-brakes for the S-14 I am going to do brake upgrade with brembo calipers (from an R33 GTR, got it for free) with Project Mu dics. Then a friend suggested switching the E-brakes to Hydrolic ones using the calipers to lock up. I was considering this since it may be easier to do (instead of dealing with the drum e-brake, which I still need to purchase). What do you guys think, use the drum ones or the hydrolic ones?

07-07-2007, 09:24 AM	#3
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	drum hydro is only ON OFF with drum u have more control i would never do hydro ive driven a few cars with it. ugh. it sucks, imo less effort, but if u cant do that with stock (and yes stock is easy to make work FANTASTIC) then you shouldnt be drifting. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-07-2007, 09:40 AM	#4
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just upgrade your stock rear with nice pads lines and get a staging brake for the cabin. same thing as hydro, its inline slave, so you still use brakes as normal but u can use just rear by pulling the handle. really no need to upgrade rear to bigger, most braking is in the front. imho. __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

07-07-2007, 09:42 AM	#5
rps13drift Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ BRO!!!! Age: 39 Posts: 1,194 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: rps13drift Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I just installed a hydro e-brake in my track car! A real lot of work is involved to get it in/working right but i think its rad! __________________ http://allies-drift.blogspot.com/

07-07-2007, 04:39 PM	#8
nissan_driver24 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 40 Posts: 451 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	what's wrong with drum brakes in the back??? i just installed them on my car and they work perfect. I was considering using a hydro e-brake but why do that when there's something offered stock from nissan. plus using a drum brake for like drifting would be nice cause u don't heat up the caliper to lock up the wheel during lets say drifting... can't beat two with one... i'm not sure if i make any sence to any1 i'm kinda exhausted from work... __________________ --240sx Driver Since 2002 to 2013--

07-07-2007, 09:22 AM	#2
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 38 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	in your scenerio seems like hydrualic e-brake would make sense....thats what im doing with my drift car as well because i got s15 rear calipers and the ebrake cables dont work with the s13 chassis.

07-07-2007, 01:30 PM	#6
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Im putting one in right now. its not easier by any means. and wether or not it works better is a matter of opinion. I bought the kit from Driftworks in the UK, its got a smaller master than the bonerjam CNC kits, so we'll see if it haves the controllability that dousans talking about.

07-07-2007, 04:30 PM	#7
driftenthusiast Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oakton Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Its not hard to install if you use stainless steel flexible lines instead of hard line. the is a place in the front to hook in to and a place in the rear pretty straight forward.

10-26-2007, 06:33 PM	#10
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 37 Posts: 5,616 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Personally I think more control could be had if everyone didn't use those lightning-pole-long e-brake handles, and a smaller slave, like some kits come with. Who likes to work on drum brakes? Sorry for the bump of a old thead, but I'd like to start more discussion on this. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

10-26-2007, 10:42 PM	#12
Slip&Sliden 240 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Washington Age: 38 Posts: 237 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Here is my CNC brakes, brake.

10-27-2007, 06:47 AM	#13
s13coupedrfter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal Posts: 839 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I've had my hydro e-brake for the last 5 events and I love it! The whole project cost around 300 bucks. One thing about the unit is before you install keep in mind that after you bleed it the throw is shortened alot. You can see how I spliced into the rear brake line with braided line for ease of install.

10-27-2007, 11:13 AM	#14
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 37 Posts: 5,616 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Nice pic. Thanks. Anyone use shorter handles? for less leverage and the ability to adjust brake lock more? __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

10-27-2007, 09:03 PM	#15
s13coupedrfter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal Posts: 839 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Instead of guessing about leverage before you even install it, try it first then adjust as needed.

10-27-2007, 10:48 PM	#16
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I don't see the need for any of this, an ebrake is just a parking brake. Park the car, engage the brake. Hell I used to carry around a brick in the trunk, works fine, and really damn cheap too. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

08-29-2009, 06:13 PM	#17
dkwasherexd Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: socal/626 Age: 36 Posts: 625 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	has anybody tried this on a fc? I need to do something about my ebrake, its completely dead... i replaced new pads,a nd tightened all the cables, now its dead.. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Garage...15739035172956

08-29-2009, 07:07 PM	#20
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Oh god, super fail. Thx DK. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

09-14-2009, 11:20 PM	#21
dkwasherexd Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: socal/626 Age: 36 Posts: 625 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	hahaa thx for he info.. Just that my stock ebrake no longer works and want to go hydro.. I will do this.. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Garage...15739035172956