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Bigsyke · 10-11-2009, 12:36 PM

I have a decision to make here, drive the ITR thats never seen snow this winter or drive the 240 which im currently restoring. The 240 has winter tires on it, the ITR has falkens.

I have an underground garage, so would it be best to keep the daily driver outside, or inside? I noticed my 240 trippled its rust last winter, and I kept it outside as it was my daily driver. They say rust stops at a certain temp, but if I keep it in the garage, I could clean it off once a week.

What do you guys in the rust belt do to to protect from rust?

I LUV MY S13 · 10-11-2009, 12:40 PM

live in cali

Bigsyke · 10-11-2009, 12:43 PM

Cali's in the rust belt? Thanks for the advice

Persona · 10-11-2009, 12:47 PM

Buy the shittiest car you can find and drive that, then sell it after winter. Thats all i can think of, not worth driving either of the cars you care for in the winter when rust will surely take a toll on them.

Bigsyke · 10-11-2009, 12:51 PM

I thow this is true, I just hate to spend more money on a temp car.

Im thinking of just driving the 240 and saving the 1k it would take to buy a winter beater- and saving that for a new chassis, however Id have to do something about my nismo tstat and all other associated cooling mods. The 240 is already rotting on the floor boards and rockers.

lazysk8er2 · 10-11-2009, 12:52 PM

cha get a pos subie and beat the hell out of it... you can find a high mileage outback for like 1200 bucks...awd man...if not then fwd is better than the 240sx rwd in the snowy weather

aznpoopy · 10-11-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsyke

What do you guys in the rust belt do to to protect from rust?

they oil spray the bottom of the car yearly to keep it from rusting. i hear it costs about 100 bucks.

Bigsyke · 10-11-2009, 01:00 PM

What about putting the car in a heated garage when I get home and washing the salt off the underbody?

aznpoopy · 10-11-2009, 01:07 PM

are you going to do that everyday? i'd rather clean it once, get it sprayed, and then not think about it again until next year.

undercoverdjay · 10-11-2009, 01:36 PM

LOL@Rust stops at a certain temperature. Wow, I weep for the future. Someone wasn't paying attention in high school chem. Oxidation may slow down at a lower temperature, but nothing is going to prevent metal from oxidizing when its introduced to water let alone SALT which is a catalyst of the reaction. Catalysts being elements that lower the startup energy of the reaction. Ie. Heat = Energy

Matej · 10-11-2009, 01:39 PM

Decide which car you like more, and sell the other one. Then buy some beater sedan. No point in having two cars that you do not want to drive in the winter.

mattro · 10-11-2009, 01:49 PM

my car is undercoated. i drove it last winter because i was broke and hungry some of the sus pieces started to get surface rust but i plan on replacing them anyways, btw i worked at a car dealer and washed my car AT LEAST once a week, with a pressure washer, and made sure to get under the car. to this day no rust on the body/chassis

sidetrack9 · 10-11-2009, 02:18 PM

well like mattro said there are undercoats that u can apply to prevent rust i did a quick google n found this Paint Over Rust to Stop Rust Permanently With Chassis Saver Truck & Auto Underbody Coating just search around im pretty sure u'll find something...and driving in the snow with a 240 sucks big time

Bushido · 10-11-2009, 04:41 PM

try to find a place that does "Rust Check" undercoating.

it's a red oily lubricant undercoat that smells like cherries.

I had my S13 sprayed everywhere, even drilled holes in the door sills to coat the rockers and indie the fenders real good.

It made it through a canadian winter with no rust showing up more than two years afterward. The stuff works.

...and to the guy that said fwd is better than a 240 in the snow, you're nuts. I had a blast driving my s13 with summer tires in snow and ice.

ayuaddict · 10-11-2009, 05:04 PM

Nut up or shut up.

negrosx13 · 10-11-2009, 05:27 PM

ok jack the car on 4 jack stands,5 cans of 3m undercoat spray.and spray that mofo up like no tomarrow.rust will be fixed..also do what mattro did power wash the wheel wells and underbody and you should be golden free of rust.

Bigsyke · 10-11-2009, 11:35 PM

^^^that just makes rust come back 25 fold.

Yes, rwd is technically better in the snow, if you have lost control in a fwd car you will know, you slide straight forward into whatevers ahead of you. RWD you pretty much never truely lose control unless the fronts lose grip.

10-11-2009, 12:36 PM	#1
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 40 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Salt & Rust. I have a decision to make here, drive the ITR thats never seen snow this winter or drive the 240 which im currently restoring. The 240 has winter tires on it, the ITR has falkens. I have an underground garage, so would it be best to keep the daily driver outside, or inside? I noticed my 240 trippled its rust last winter, and I kept it outside as it was my daily driver. They say rust stops at a certain temp, but if I keep it in the garage, I could clean it off once a week. What do you guys in the rust belt do to to protect from rust?

10-11-2009, 12:40 PM	#2
I LUV MY S13 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwalk, Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 3,349 Trader Rating: (35) Rides Gallery: I LUV MY S13 Feedback Score: 35 reviews	live in cali __________________ -Jorge

10-11-2009, 12:47 PM	#4
Persona Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 927 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Buy the shittiest car you can find and drive that, then sell it after winter. Thats all i can think of, not worth driving either of the cars you care for in the winter when rust will surely take a toll on them. __________________

10-11-2009, 01:49 PM	#12
mattro Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: henrietta, ny Age: 36 Posts: 478 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	my car is undercoated. i drove it last winter because i was broke and hungry some of the sus pieces started to get surface rust but i plan on replacing them anyways, btw i worked at a car dealer and washed my car AT LEAST once a week, with a pressure washer, and made sure to get under the car. to this day no rust on the body/chassis __________________ grip like roots, float like leaves. wtb s13 sus.

10-11-2009, 04:41 PM	#14
Bushido Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: SFL Posts: 3,563 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	try to find a place that does "Rust Check" undercoating. it's a red oily lubricant undercoat that smells like cherries. I had my S13 sprayed everywhere, even drilled holes in the door sills to coat the rockers and indie the fenders real good. It made it through a canadian winter with no rust showing up more than two years afterward. The stuff works. ...and to the guy that said fwd is better than a 240 in the snow, you're nuts. I had a blast driving my s13 with summer tires in snow and ice. __________________

10-11-2009, 12:43 PM	#3
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 40 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Cali's in the rust belt? Thanks for the advice

10-11-2009, 12:51 PM	#5
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 40 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thow this is true, I just hate to spend more money on a temp car. Im thinking of just driving the 240 and saving the 1k it would take to buy a winter beater- and saving that for a new chassis, however Id have to do something about my nismo tstat and all other associated cooling mods. The 240 is already rotting on the floor boards and rockers.

10-11-2009, 01:00 PM	#8
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 40 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What about putting the car in a heated garage when I get home and washing the salt off the underbody?

10-11-2009, 01:07 PM	#9
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	are you going to do that everyday? i'd rather clean it once, get it sprayed, and then not think about it again until next year.

10-11-2009, 01:36 PM	#10
undercoverdjay Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Potsdam New York Age: 41 Posts: 594 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	LOL@Rust stops at a certain temperature. Wow, I weep for the future. Someone wasn't paying attention in high school chem. Oxidation may slow down at a lower temperature, but nothing is going to prevent metal from oxidizing when its introduced to water let alone SALT which is a catalyst of the reaction. Catalysts being elements that lower the startup energy of the reaction. Ie. Heat = Energy

10-11-2009, 01:39 PM	#11
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Decide which car you like more, and sell the other one. Then buy some beater sedan. No point in having two cars that you do not want to drive in the winter.

10-11-2009, 02:18 PM	#13
sidetrack9 Join Date: May 2008 Location: long beach Age: 40 Posts: 19 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well like mattro said there are undercoats that u can apply to prevent rust i did a quick google n found this Paint Over Rust to Stop Rust Permanently With Chassis Saver Truck & Auto Underbody Coating just search around im pretty sure u'll find something...and driving in the snow with a 240 sucks big time

10-11-2009, 05:04 PM	#15
ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 36 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Nut up or shut up.

10-11-2009, 05:27 PM	#16
negrosx13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston,tx Posts: 948 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	ok jack the car on 4 jack stands,5 cans of 3m undercoat spray.and spray that mofo up like no tomarrow.rust will be fixed..also do what mattro did power wash the wheel wells and underbody and you should be golden free of rust.

10-11-2009, 11:35 PM	#17
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 40 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^that just makes rust come back 25 fold. Yes, rwd is technically better in the snow, if you have lost control in a fwd car you will know, you slide straight forward into whatevers ahead of you. RWD you pretty much never truely lose control unless the fronts lose grip.