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ILiveToDrift · 06-13-2003, 02:56 PM

I know how people say that underdrive pullys will ruin the engine. What if you replaced the Alternator, Power Steering, and Water Pump too. Or what I'm really saying is which would be better just haveing the crank pully or all 4 of them. Or will it even matter. also if I do replace them all will it add more hp, like more than 1hp per pully.

**West** · 06-13-2003, 03:09 PM

I honestly in all my years I dont think ive ever seen someones engine get damaged as a direct result of a UD pulley. IIRC Unorthodox dosent make a multi pulley set for the KA, but Greddy makes one for the SR. The best way to go for the KA is to get the ASP UD Pulley for about 120$ +/-. There would be no purpose to replace the Alternator, Power Steering, or Water Pump when you install the UD pulley. IMO it wouldnt help any more then +1 hp if you did the other pulleys anyways, overall the Pulley gives the KA about 3-6 more HP max. Is it worth it? I think it is if you need to do a belt change, get the pulley and put it in there while your down there.

ILiveToDrift · 06-13-2003, 03:10 PM

Thanks man. I think I'll go with ASP.

Jim96SC2 · 06-13-2003, 03:59 PM

Greddy is NOT an underdrive pully.

**West** · 06-13-2003, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim96SC2
Greddy is NOT an underdrive pully.

Didnt know. So what is it?

Red · 06-13-2003, 04:37 PM

Get the Unortadox set. (400$) off www.enjukuracing.com

12hp gain ( http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0210it_powerpages/ )

EDIT: did not post pic right.

ILiveToDrift · 06-13-2003, 04:44 PM

Is it worth the $400? or is $120 for the ASP more reasonable.

Red · 06-13-2003, 04:57 PM

Well i'm sure the 120$ is more reasonable. I plan to do the 400$ unortadox ones. I'm sure I will never ware them out. I'm not sure if you can buy the other pullys if they arnt in the set.

I bet the ASP will help.. It just comes down to how much you want to spend.

I'm a do it right the 1st time type of guy.

ILiveToDrift · 06-13-2003, 05:00 PM

I agree with you there. I want to get all 4 but that will leave me with less money for other mods. I was either going to get a couple expencive mods or go with some ok priced mods but for areas of the car. That counts cosmetic work. I do love the sleeper look but I want my car to still look good.

kandyflip445 · 06-13-2003, 09:56 PM

Does anyone know why the SET of pulleys is for 95-98 when the crank-only is for 91-98? I was thinking about getting the set for my 91' but was kinda stumped as to why it says those years.

Red · 06-14-2003, 02:18 PM

Because from what I have read and heard... Some guy with a 95 nissan 240sx went in and comishend them to make pullys for his race car.. (KA24DE) engine.. So they made some... I'm sure that cost quite a bit.

(Thats what I hear.. Dont kills me if its not true)

EDIT: Not to do with pullys.. But I found a place that if you send them OEM body parts from the manufacture.. they will make a carbonfiber part for it.. Then you can buy.. ohh CF fenders.. I was thinking of doing this.

06-13-2003, 02:56 PM	#1
ILiveToDrift Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Unorthodox vs Unorthodox Q's I know how people say that underdrive pullys will ruin the engine. What if you replaced the Alternator, Power Steering, and Water Pump too. Or what I'm really saying is which would be better just haveing the crank pully or all 4 of them. Or will it even matter. also if I do replace them all will it add more hp, like more than 1hp per pully. __________________

06-13-2003, 03:09 PM	#2
West OMNOMNOMNOM Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Denver, CO Age: 44 Posts: 6,456 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: West Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I honestly in all my years I dont think ive ever seen someones engine get damaged as a direct result of a UD pulley. IIRC Unorthodox dosent make a multi pulley set for the KA, but Greddy makes one for the SR. The best way to go for the KA is to get the ASP UD Pulley for about 120$ +/-. There would be no purpose to replace the Alternator, Power Steering, or Water Pump when you install the UD pulley. IMO it wouldnt help any more then +1 hp if you did the other pulleys anyways, overall the Pulley gives the KA about 3-6 more HP max. Is it worth it? I think it is if you need to do a belt change, get the pulley and put it in there while your down there. __________________ West - Zilvia.net - Toyobaru.net - NapkinSketch.com

06-13-2003, 03:10 PM	#3
ILiveToDrift Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks man. I think I'll go with ASP. __________________

06-13-2003, 03:59 PM	#4
Jim96SC2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 43 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Greddy is NOT an underdrive pully. __________________ Swap DONE: 40K Redtop, Greddy Turbo extension, Greddy DP, Greddy V-SPL FMIC, Greddy Hotpipe, HKS SSQV, Koyo Radiator, Toda Ultralight FW, Spec Stage 2 Clutch, ATS 2-way Diff., Rice-Boy Red Air Filter.

06-13-2003, 04:37 PM	#6
Red Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver, WA - Portland, OR Age: 44 Posts: 734 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Get the Unortadox set. (400$) off www.enjukuracing.com 12hp gain ( http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0210it_powerpages/ ) EDIT: did not post pic right. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/509537 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287415487 http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=21036 Last edited by Red; 06-13-2003 at 04:40 PM..

06-13-2003, 04:44 PM	#7
ILiveToDrift Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is it worth the $400? or is $120 for the ASP more reasonable. __________________

06-13-2003, 04:57 PM	#8
Red Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver, WA - Portland, OR Age: 44 Posts: 734 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well i'm sure the 120$ is more reasonable. I plan to do the 400$ unortadox ones. I'm sure I will never ware them out. I'm not sure if you can buy the other pullys if they arnt in the set. I bet the ASP will help.. It just comes down to how much you want to spend. I'm a do it right the 1st time type of guy. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/509537 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287415487 http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=21036

06-13-2003, 05:00 PM	#9
ILiveToDrift Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I agree with you there. I want to get all 4 but that will leave me with less money for other mods. I was either going to get a couple expencive mods or go with some ok priced mods but for areas of the car. That counts cosmetic work. I do love the sleeper look but I want my car to still look good. __________________

06-13-2003, 09:56 PM	#10
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Does anyone know why the SET of pulleys is for 95-98 when the crank-only is for 91-98? I was thinking about getting the set for my 91' but was kinda stumped as to why it says those years. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

06-14-2003, 02:18 PM	#11
Red Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver, WA - Portland, OR Age: 44 Posts: 734 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Because from what I have read and heard... Some guy with a 95 nissan 240sx went in and comishend them to make pullys for his race car.. (KA24DE) engine.. So they made some... I'm sure that cost quite a bit. (Thats what I hear.. Dont kills me if its not true) EDIT: Not to do with pullys.. But I found a place that if you send them OEM body parts from the manufacture.. they will make a carbonfiber part for it.. Then you can buy.. ohh CF fenders.. I was thinking of doing this. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/509537 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287415487 http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=21036