Vertex S14 Bumper Copy Is Out!!

[initial s14]

HERE IS THE LINK.....

http://www.importfan.com/product.asp?3=4399


THEY SAY IT WILL RUN FOR JUST 250 EACH.... THEY ARE STILL DOIN A MASSIVE PRODUCTION..... SO HOLD YOUR HORSES !!

[SilviaDriver]

wow..thats Fucked up.

i will always hate importfan..hope they burn to hell

and i will always run to Chris for all my Vertex needs

[initial s14]

is importfan bad? how? in what way ? do they sell crappy stuff made out of crappy material? info please........

[SilviaDriver]

Originally posted by initial s14
is importfan bad? how? in what way ? do they sell crappy stuff made out of crappy material? info please........

yes. they suck balls. they make cheap knock offs. that dont fit right. they suck

im SURE there are others that agree with me.

[zero.counter]

Any takers? Truthfully, does anyone have any real world experience with the blue class aeroparts from GTP? I mean not hearsay, actual proven ownership. Any pics if you do/had?

[SilviaDriver]

just a lil thing they like to throw out as crap.

ImportFan says their "blue class" is high durable FIBERGLASS right?

look at the pics.




THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT CAN BE FIBERGLASS!!! thats freaken Urethane

wat IM GUESSING is..they advertise the pic saying "yes this fiberglass..its the blue class..buy buy buy..our fiberglass is that strong"

then people buy..and realize its not that strong.

i dunno. my post had no point..but those pics advertise something that isnt true.

[boro240]

i will hate importfan for the rest of my life.

[wherezmytofu]

who are they trying to pass that too as fiberglass?

[KoukiS14]

I wonder if the rest of their stuff is urethane. Urethane > fiberglass.

[initial s14]

those guys looked like they are standing on a bench than a bumper..... who knows it maybe a bumper shaped bench.

[Dousan_PG]

BOOO I GODDAMN HATE ****ING COMPANIES THAT SURVIVE ON OTHER PEOPLES HARD WORK AND ENERGY AND TIME

I HOPE CHRIS AND T & E VERTEX SLAP THOSE FUCKERS WITH A LAWSUIT!!!! ARGH!!

[zero.counter]

Originally posted by dousan36
BOOO I GODDAMN HATE ****ING COMPANIES THAT SURVIVE ON OTHER PEOPLES HARD WORK AND ENERGY AND TIME

I HOPE CHRIS AND T & E VERTEX SLAP THOSE FUCKERS WITH A LAWSUIT!!!! ARGH!!

Unfortunately, they (VIS and other companies) probably don't have some type of patent on those kits. The Importfan people feel they can, just like others, give consumers the choice in styles while not paying the inflated price which most unknowingly associate with quality. Example, the sam's club soda compared to coca cola, the 99 cent value meal originally developed to bring in the masses by Wendys (may Dave's soul rest in peace) and then everyone followed and so on.

Microsoft thrived and conquered using the same technique used by incorporating other technologies into their own (a.k.a. assimilating) and making profit after some modifications and then copyrighting. Its just the american business model, common sense.

If their sh1t stinks then so be it. In some cases the old cliche, "You get what you pay for", does not necessarily apply .
If VIS wants to follow a good example, they should mold after Amazon.com's current, "I am gonna copy protect everything I can", attitude.

Something to think about, and no I am not the devils advocate, just regurgitating what I have learned. It's good to be wise.

[Freeject]

I dont know much about bumpers, but that seems to be a DAMNED strong bumper. Id take one just so I'd have a bumper that could survive a weekend at the track.

[Dousan_PG]

Vertex is hand laid fiberglass!
have you seen hand laid fiberglass when it breaks?

that vis/gtp is molded. have you seen molded fiberglass when it breaks?

i'd take hand laid ANYDAY Over molded. quality is KEY

as far as copying, im sure T&E will take some action. im sure chris is aware too. sounds like he deals w/ T&E often and personally.

as far as bumper taking that abuse, yeah its not new or anything, lots of japanese companies do that. but with their own style. anyone can do it

[NiteKids]

Yep so now everyone will be running around with bummper very simular to mine while I paid muy more for something nicer but everyone will think it's the cheap shiz

[toreno]

Dont believe he Picture of that Bumper flexing like that. Its fake as F^cK. Yes their fiberglass is layered with that gel coating as you can tell, and it is flexible, but no way in hell can it hold up 2 people and flex liek that. My bro has a set of s15 fenders from importfan, they dont fit correctly, and the gel coating is cracking everywhere.

[zero.counter]

Originally posted by dousan36
Vertex is hand laid fiberglass!
have you seen hand laid fiberglass when it breaks?

that vis/gtp is molded. have you seen molded fiberglass when it breaks?

i'd take hand laid ANYDAY Over molded. quality is KEY

as far as copying, im sure T&E will take some action. im sure chris is aware too. sounds like he deals w/ T&E often and personally.

as far as bumper taking that abuse, yeah its not new or anything, lots of japanese companies do that. but with their own style. anyone can do it

The real question is LOOKS or FUNCTIONALITY. It all boils down to that again. You should know that if it is used for drifting or any activity where the possibility of crashing is high, then what the material is made out of does not matter. Cracked/broken is Cracked/broken right? Just zip-tie the biotch as the saying goes. If you are a show car person, then you know that it breaking is minimal in that you won't be daily driving the car and the risk, as I said, is nill.
I mean, if show is the case, is someone going to crawl under the car to see the vertex, abflug, or do-luck label? When you drift into a wall at 35-55mph is it going to matter how the thing cracked?

Just some more info to open eyes with.

Frozen, homemade, or Pizza-Hut, doesen't matter...still gonna exit out the same way.

BTW, I have seen both when they break. I figured that i should not have been doing what I did to break the bumpers in the first place. Then I would not need to ask myself that question.

[zero.counter]

I, in no way, wish to ever purchase aero part from import fan. I have my sources and don't want them opinionated. I just want to bring a point to the table.

Aaron, no offense man.

[DRFT]

You guys want to know another thing about imprt fan?...They are making a copy of the oem kouki bumper for R/PS13~!! dammit....just go to the 89-94 section of 240s and you'll see it

[Dousan_PG]

dood
im NOT talking about drifting!!
daily driving. last time i check parking lots had big dips, so do driveways, speedbumps, freeway construction, etc.

cheap fiberglass WONT last long and most people's cars are lowered. many japanse body kits hang low too


for your pizza example:

yeah but pizza hut doesnt copy domino's packaging and labeling

importfan and vertex make bumpers
but the first one copies (exact) vertex's.

think about that.

[SilviaDriver]

Originally posted by dousan36

as far as copying, im sure T&E will take some action. im sure chris is aware too. sounds like he deals w/ T&E often and personally.

Chris is aware of it. i sent it to him and he told me he already knows. hope Chris beats the **** outta them!

[zero.counter]

Originally posted by dousan36
dood
im NOT talking about drifting!!
daily driving. last time i check parking lots had big dips, so do driveways, speedbumps, freeway construction, etc.

No sh1t sherlock, for some odd reason, I have never had that problem with some of the knock-off kits I have owned in the past.

cheap fiberglass WONT last long and most people's cars are lowered. many japanse body kits hang low too

You got me there vato. I love slamming hard all the time.

yeah but pizza hut does copy domino's packaging and labeling

Actually, Dominos has the edges cut off the box in a hexagon shape. Pizza hut is straight square.

importfan and vertex make bumpers
but the first one copies (exact) vertex's.
think about that.

Imitation is the best form of flattery, or in this case, duplication. Vertex should take that as a complement.

[Dousan_PG]

the pizza thing, i edited my post..if you see, i mistyped. hehe..fast typer but inaccurate and cant spell. d'oh

yes compliment. sure take their money! Ueno doesnt need it anyways! Im sure he's grateful for that and very happy to be losing the US market to copies.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally posted by NiteKids
Yep so now everyone will be running around with bummper very simular to mine while I paid muy more for something nicer but everyone will think it's the cheap shiz

So true, but thats life, you think you got top quality next thing you know someone makes some cheap *** product and can't tell the difference.

No more uniqueness for you.

Thats why stock owns, never have to worry about people thinking its a cheap knock off. Only thing that sucks about stock is fmic fitting, but with a little cutting lots of things will fit .

[zero.counter]

Originally posted by dousan36
the pizza thing, i edited my post..if you see, i mistyped. hehe..fast typer but inaccurate and cant spell. d'oh

yes compliment. sure take their money! Ueno doesnt need it anyways! Im sure he's grateful for that and very happy to be losing the US market to copies.

Spoken like a true soldier.

I am assuming that you have either some personal ties to this Chris fellow, or they (vertex or other companies) are sponsoring or have sponsored you at some point in time. Explaining the fact that you are dead bent against anything but spending on the most expensive from that company.

I tip my hat off to you, in that you are true to them as a customer, friend, acquantance or whatever. That is an admirable quality not found in many.

Unfortunately, it does nothing to change my personal experience or the other I know in the past with some of the "Knock-Offs" products. I have used the Wyvern Kit for the S14 (Kouki) and one other quality kit and found no difference, still got scratched up and I sold as is a year ago. I just cannot find many differences.

BTW, I use Linux (Red-Hat, at work and home), sometimes with KDE Desktop, that doesen't mean that it sucks because microsoft had the pretty desktop first does it? J/K

[NiteKids]

You guys can't forget though even in Japan this type of stuff happens all the time.

Smaller companies copy other companies bodykits over there and sell them for less. Thats also why so many of their kits look almost exactly the same.

[wherezmytofu]

Originally posted by initial s14
those guys looked like they are standing on a bench than a bumper..... who knows it maybe a bumper shaped bench.

[toreno]

what the hell is that guy doing reading a paper while standing on the Bmper? Is he pretending to stay calm, because the bumper is gonna break any moment now??????

[initial s14]

This from GTP (importfan.com)


Installation of Aerodynamics
All aerodynamic are manufactured with 100% fiberglass. Due to the material used in production, the body kits will NOT be a direct bolt-on. These body kits may require prepping, sanding, shaving, filling gaps, or other extensive body work. These modifications may include removal or cutting of the reinforcement bars. By complying with our policies, customer understands the procedure and possible difficulty in installing the body kit. We HIGHLY recommend that a professional body shop with fiberglass body kit experience perform the installation. Refunds will not be issued due to poor fitment of the body kit. If fitment is off by extreme margins, a refund will be considered.

[initial s14]

Actually, its either they are standing on a brick bumper bench or they are hanging via wires.......