Today was easily the worst day of my mechanical career. - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

**mrmephistopheles** · 06-30-2003, 01:08 AM

I got my *** kicked by a 13 year old ball joint.
I swear to god, some Nissan engineer put MAD KrazyGlue on that particular ball joint so that I couldn't get it out. He KNEW i'd need to do it some day, and laid out an evil plan.
I ended up stealing the LCA from my wife's car (the 89) to have a usable ball joint & control arm.
I wasn't even able to change the oil, I was so frustrated.

I didn't do jack to the 89 today.
For those who don't know, the SOHC in her car gave up the ghost (rod knocking due to dented oil pan), so i'm installing a '95 or '96 KA into her car as an OBDI motor. I'm also swapping it from auto to manual. And putting in a new interior. And putting on Q45 brakes.
It's coming along nicely.
I just need to reinstall the lower intake manifold plenum, hookup all the vacuum crap, and slap it back into the chassis. After that's done, all I need to do is wire it and wait for the driveshaft and such to arrive. *cough*MARK!*cough*

-Kevin

cliffnotes: *** beat by a ball joint, didn't get jack done today.

mistert · 06-30-2003, 01:15 AM

still way more productive than my sunday...

i think the 240 feels neglected today

240SxTYLE · 06-30-2003, 01:24 AM

i see why you dont know any of the specs on the cams... you cant even change a ball joint

... haha jk

hope everything goes good

**mrmephistopheles** · 06-30-2003, 02:04 AM

Oh.. I should've clarified. I'm attempting to remove the old S13 ball joint from my LCA, and install an S14 ball joint.

old_s13 · 06-30-2003, 08:08 AM

Kevin, removing the ball joint is easy.. just use the dual-hammer technique. One hammer hits the LCA up, the other hammer hits the top of the ball joint out of the LCA -- it ALWAYS works. You have to give it a nice POP, it'll work.. trust me.

Anyway, atleast you didnt spin a bearing like a ****ING IDIOT.. man, I am still bummed from that ****up.

ps: The S14 ball joints ONLY fit the S14 front knuckles, I hope you are planning S14SE 5-lug upgrade with a certain caliper upgrade.

- Mike

**mrmephistopheles** · 06-30-2003, 09:30 AM

Maybe I'll give that a try on Tuesday, Mike..
That does suck about your motor. I can't believe it's just due to a simple over-rev!

and.. earth to Mike.. I've had S14 spindles and Z brakes for well over a year now.. **** maybe 2. I was just lazy (like you were) and ran on S13 ball joints the whole time. I'm just trying to remedy that!
How's your breakfast?

zero.counter · 06-30-2003, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrmephistopheles
I didn't do jack to the 89 today.
For those who don't know, the SOHC in her car gave up the ghost (rod knocking due to dented oil pan), so i'm installing a '95 or '96 KA into her car as an OBDI motor. I'm also swapping it from auto to manual. And putting in a new interior. And putting on Q45 brakes.
It's coming along nicely.
I just need to reinstall the lower intake manifold plenum, hookup all the vacuum crap, and slap it back into the chassis. After that's done, all I need to do is wire it and wait for the driveshaft and such to arrive.

Sorry to hear bout your struggles. Are you going to post pics of the finished parts? Did not see you posting for a couple of days, you o.k.?

**mrmephistopheles** · 07-01-2003, 12:01 AM

After it's all said & done, I'll post pics. I haven't said anything on the matter since, as i haven't worked on any of it.

Sabertooth · 07-01-2003, 01:47 AM

Hitting around the area helps. Helps frustration and somehow dislodges the stock "krazy glue" effect.

timmybgood · 07-01-2003, 10:39 AM

luckily for me when i had to take out the ball joint on the LCA(drivers rear actually) the LCA itself was fudged to all hell, so i didn't have to worry about ruining the boot, i just gave it hell, those things are a PITA

johnny426 · 07-01-2003, 06:15 PM

To remove a balljoin, you can either :

(1) use a balljoint sepeartor, like a folk shape
OR
(2) cut the balljoint or/and spindle.

I did (1) on the left side and did (2) on the right side.

(2) totally took 5 hours.(did not have good tools)
(1) took 1 minutes.

P.S The balljoint seperator has to be thick, thicker than the gap between the control arm and the splindle.

I hope this help.

http://www.geocities.com/yamhoksum/S13_6_22_03.html

06-30-2003, 01:08 AM	#1
mrmephistopheles Magnanimous Justice Distribution Service Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 23 Posts: 14,372 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Today was easily the worst day of my mechanical career. I got my *** kicked by a 13 year old ball joint. I swear to god, some Nissan engineer put MAD KrazyGlue on that particular ball joint so that I couldn't get it out. He KNEW i'd need to do it some day, and laid out an evil plan. I ended up stealing the LCA from my wife's car (the 89) to have a usable ball joint & control arm. I wasn't even able to change the oil, I was so frustrated. I didn't do jack to the 89 today. For those who don't know, the SOHC in her car gave up the ghost (rod knocking due to dented oil pan), so i'm installing a '95 or '96 KA into her car as an OBDI motor. I'm also swapping it from auto to manual. And putting in a new interior. And putting on Q45 brakes. It's coming along nicely. I just need to reinstall the lower intake manifold plenum, hookup all the vacuum crap, and slap it back into the chassis. After that's done, all I need to do is wire it and wait for the driveshaft and such to arrive. coughMARK!cough -Kevin cliffnotes: *** beat by a ball joint, didn't get jack done today.

06-30-2003, 01:15 AM	#2
mistert Pearl White Mike Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: memphis TN Posts: 908 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	still way more productive than my sunday... i think the 240 feels neglected today __________________ "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" ~ Samuel Johnson

06-30-2003, 01:24 AM	#3
240SxTYLE Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: orlando Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i see why you dont know any of the specs on the cams... you cant even change a ball joint ... haha jk hope everything goes good __________________ Second love First Love (my girl, not the honda)

07-01-2003, 10:39 AM	#10
timmybgood Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: central ohio Age: 41 Posts: 229 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	luckily for me when i had to take out the ball joint on the LCA(drivers rear actually) the LCA itself was fudged to all hell, so i didn't have to worry about ruining the boot, i just gave it hell, those things are a PITA __________________ 1995 SE

07-01-2003, 06:15 PM	#11
johnny426 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 66 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	To remove a balljoin, you can either : (1) use a balljoint sepeartor, like a folk shape OR (2) cut the balljoint or/and spindle. I did (1) on the left side and did (2) on the right side. (2) totally took 5 hours.(did not have good tools) (1) took 1 minutes. P.S The balljoint seperator has to be thick, thicker than the gap between the control arm and the splindle. I hope this help. http://www.geocities.com/yamhoksum/S13_6_22_03.html Last edited by johnny426; 07-01-2003 at 09:10 PM..

06-30-2003, 02:04 AM	#4
mrmephistopheles Magnanimous Justice Distribution Service Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 23 Posts: 14,372 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Oh.. I should've clarified. I'm attempting to remove the old S13 ball joint from my LCA, and install an S14 ball joint.

06-30-2003, 08:08 AM	#5
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Kevin, removing the ball joint is easy.. just use the dual-hammer technique. One hammer hits the LCA up, the other hammer hits the top of the ball joint out of the LCA -- it ALWAYS works. You have to give it a nice POP, it'll work.. trust me. Anyway, atleast you didnt spin a bearing like a **ING IDIOT.. man, I am still bummed from that **up. ps: The S14 ball joints ONLY fit the S14 front knuckles, I hope you are planning S14SE 5-lug upgrade with a certain caliper upgrade. - Mike

06-30-2003, 09:30 AM	#6
mrmephistopheles Magnanimous Justice Distribution Service Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 23 Posts: 14,372 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Maybe I'll give that a try on Tuesday, Mike.. That does suck about your motor. I can't believe it's just due to a simple over-rev! and.. earth to Mike.. I've had S14 spindles and Z brakes for well over a year now.. **** maybe 2. I was just lazy (like you were) and ran on S13 ball joints the whole time. I'm just trying to remedy that! How's your breakfast?

07-01-2003, 12:01 AM	#8
mrmephistopheles Magnanimous Justice Distribution Service Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 23 Posts: 14,372 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	After it's all said & done, I'll post pics. I haven't said anything on the matter since, as i haven't worked on any of it.

07-01-2003, 01:47 AM	#9
Sabertooth Join Date: May 2003 Location: la Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hitting around the area helps. Helps frustration and somehow dislodges the stock "krazy glue" effect.