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Options13 · 06-10-2010, 09:01 PM

ok so i need to re-do my timing chain and while im at it im putting in a new oil pump, i was wondering, in order to get both the upper and lower oil pan off, would you be able to just unbolt the motor mounts and hoist the engine up as high as it will go without hitting the firewall?

i don't want to drop the cross member. but if i have too, i will

bl3ujay07 · 06-10-2010, 09:13 PM

yup. Unbolt motor AND tranny mount and lift with engine hoist. Tilt tranny while pulling out, and done.

s14unimog · 06-11-2010, 12:49 PM

^ I think he's asking if you can just lift it high enough to get the pans off... not pull the engine/tranny.

Believe it or not you can actually get the oil pump/timing cover off without removing the upper pan but the problem is that you'll never get it back on, and sealed without removing the upper pan.

I bet you could lift it up high enough to get the upper pan off. I did the same thing on my KA, although it only one pan, its huge and you need to do the same thing to get it out.

GL, its a bitch of a job.

Sileighty_85 · 06-11-2010, 01:03 PM

Just pull the engine, With the tranny still bolted up you might have issues pulling the upper pan.

Plus you'll have way more room and line of sight to do the job.

I did it on an S13 KA and it was a bitch.

Options13 · 06-11-2010, 01:05 PM

is that the easiest way? to just pull the motor?! god damn, one hell of a job for an oil pump/timing chain job.. damnit

Sileighty_85 · 06-11-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Options13

is that the easiest way? to just pull the motor?! god damn, one hell of a job for an oil pump/timing chain job.. damnit

Pullin the engine aint hard, for raising it up you "should" be disconecting almost everything either way, so you might as well pull the Engine.

s14unimog · 06-11-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Options13

is that the easiest way? to just pull the motor?! god damn, one hell of a job for an oil pump/timing chain job.. damnit

yeah its a bitch.... Plus it would be a pain to set up the chain and seat the cover correctly while leaning over the core support.

bl3ujay07 · 06-11-2010, 02:35 PM

Its not hard at all taking out the motor. Better to take it out and make it easy on yourself. It will be a pita trying to work with the car just raised a bit.

Also while you're at it, if you have not done rear main seal, might as well do it imo. You got the engine out so might as well do it all in one time.

aNskY · 06-13-2010, 11:51 AM

i have done it with the motor hanging above the x-member... not recommended though. much easier to just pull the whole thing.

Options13 · 06-19-2010, 06:22 AM

kk i just pulled the whole motor, is there a certain way to prime the new oil pump?

R33E8 · 06-19-2010, 07:22 AM

pack it with assembly lube..

Sileighty_85 · 06-19-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Options13

kk i just pulled the whole motor, is there a certain way to prime the new oil pump?

If using new filter, fill oil filter with oil,
Pull the CAS plug, open up Oil Fill cap crank engine for 10 seconds (wait 20 sec) repeat until oil squirts from cam squirters

bb4_96 · 06-19-2010, 01:51 PM

Since you have it out now would be the best time to swap for a more reliable and powerful LSX motor of your choice.

Sileighty_85 · 06-19-2010, 06:04 PM

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Since you have it out now would be the best time to swap for a more reliable and powerful LSX motor of your choice.

Wow kid you need to STFU about all these LSX shit posts.

bb4_96 · 06-19-2010, 06:21 PM

^^ If everyone said that everytime there was an LSX threadjack I would quit.

**ThatGuy** · 06-19-2010, 06:32 PM

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^^ If everyone said that everytime there was an LSX threadjack I would quit.

Take two weeks off.

codyace · 06-22-2010, 10:53 PM

If you are trying to do this job, with a stock headgasket on the car still, you are undoubtedly going to ruin it, and have the front cover leak forever. Heck even with an MLS gasket, it will leak as you'll push all the sillicone out when trying to install it with the head on.

The right way would be to take the head off, and the lower pan. Could you get by with leaving head on? Sure...but again, reference what i said/posted above.

Options13 · 06-24-2010, 02:07 AM

ok well, i have an apex headgasket, what if i take the head off, am i able to re-use the gasket or do i have to buy a new one?

if i do pull off the head, im slappin on some APR studs.

codyace · 06-24-2010, 08:40 AM

ARP's would certainly be a sound choice especially if you're running some increased boost/power

The ApexI will certainly be able to be reused too. Remember, increments of 10 ft lbs in OEM pattern, to a total of 85 ft lbs (and use lube)

Options13 · 06-24-2010, 11:11 AM

alright sweet!

use lube on the head gasket?

Options13 · 06-24-2010, 02:11 PM

i must of lubed up my rear main oil seal too well? i tapped it in and it all of a sudden slid in, is this ok?

codyace · 06-24-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Options13

alright sweet!

use lube on the head gasket?

Lube on the ARP studs that is when you install them, not on the headgasket itself.

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Originally Posted by Options13

i must of lubed up my rear main oil seal too well? i tapped it in and it all of a sudden slid in, is this ok?

As long as the seal didn't go into the rear main housing beyond the stops in the cast piece, you're ok. You just want it to seal against the end of the crank that's the main thing, so as long as it's still in the housing you're ok

Options13 · 06-24-2010, 11:23 PM

codyace, your the man!

06-10-2010, 09:01 PM	#1
Options13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: OR Posts: 1,825 Trader Rating: (43) Feedback Score: 43 reviews	installing new oil pump on sr20 ok so i need to re-do my timing chain and while im at it im putting in a new oil pump, i was wondering, in order to get both the upper and lower oil pan off, would you be able to just unbolt the motor mounts and hoist the engine up as high as it will go without hitting the firewall? i don't want to drop the cross member. but if i have too, i will

06-11-2010, 12:49 PM	#3
s14unimog Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In a place, near a river, over a lake Age: 38 Posts: 2,415 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: s14unimog Feedback Score: 22 reviews	^ I think he's asking if you can just lift it high enough to get the pans off... not pull the engine/tranny. Believe it or not you can actually get the oil pump/timing cover off without removing the upper pan but the problem is that you'll never get it back on, and sealed without removing the upper pan. I bet you could lift it up high enough to get the upper pan off. I did the same thing on my KA, although it only one pan, its huge and you need to do the same thing to get it out. GL, its a bitch of a job. __________________ Fuking ginger bread man stole my wallet... SHIFT*lock_slide to side d3m3rs0n: if i have a baby im naming it Brandons Fault Emerson

06-11-2010, 01:03 PM	#4
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Just pull the engine, With the tranny still bolted up you might have issues pulling the upper pan. Plus you'll have way more room and line of sight to do the job. I did it on an S13 KA and it was a bitch. __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

06-13-2010, 11:51 AM	#9
aNskY Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NY Age: 41 Posts: 1,604 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	i have done it with the motor hanging above the x-member... not recommended though. much easier to just pull the whole thing. __________________ Bye bye zilvia kiddies

06-22-2010, 10:53 PM	#17
codyace Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poconos, PA Age: 40 Posts: 8,030 Trader Rating: (58) Feedback Score: 58 reviews	If you are trying to do this job, with a stock headgasket on the car still, you are undoubtedly going to ruin it, and have the front cover leak forever. Heck even with an MLS gasket, it will leak as you'll push all the sillicone out when trying to install it with the head on. The right way would be to take the head off, and the lower pan. Could you get by with leaving head on? Sure...but again, reference what i said/posted above. __________________ *Want Air Conditioning in your SR20 Swapped car? Check out www.sr20acbrackets.com for more information! Quest Alternator Conversions for SR20!* Check my Group Buy! Tired of lousy internal gates? Go external wastegate with one of my manifolds, Check out my group buy

06-10-2010, 09:13 PM	#2
bl3ujay07 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: norcal(209) and socal(805) Posts: 691 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	yup. Unbolt motor AND tranny mount and lift with engine hoist. Tilt tranny while pulling out, and done.

06-11-2010, 01:05 PM	#5
Options13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: OR Posts: 1,825 Trader Rating: (43) Feedback Score: 43 reviews	is that the easiest way? to just pull the motor?! god damn, one hell of a job for an oil pump/timing chain job.. damnit

06-11-2010, 02:35 PM	#8
bl3ujay07 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: norcal(209) and socal(805) Posts: 691 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Its not hard at all taking out the motor. Better to take it out and make it easy on yourself. It will be a pita trying to work with the car just raised a bit. Also while you're at it, if you have not done rear main seal, might as well do it imo. You got the engine out so might as well do it all in one time.

06-19-2010, 06:22 AM	#10
Options13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: OR Posts: 1,825 Trader Rating: (43) Feedback Score: 43 reviews	kk i just pulled the whole motor, is there a certain way to prime the new oil pump?

06-19-2010, 07:22 AM	#11
R33E8 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NJ Age: 35 Posts: 798 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	pack it with assembly lube..

06-19-2010, 01:51 PM	#13
bb4_96 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Under my car Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Since you have it out now would be the best time to swap for a more reliable and powerful LSX motor of your choice.

06-19-2010, 06:21 PM	#15
bb4_96 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Under my car Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	^^ If everyone said that everytime there was an LSX threadjack I would quit.

06-24-2010, 02:07 AM	#18
Options13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: OR Posts: 1,825 Trader Rating: (43) Feedback Score: 43 reviews	ok well, i have an apex headgasket, what if i take the head off, am i able to re-use the gasket or do i have to buy a new one? if i do pull off the head, im slappin on some APR studs.

06-24-2010, 08:40 AM	#19
codyace Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poconos, PA Age: 40 Posts: 8,030 Trader Rating: (58) Feedback Score: 58 reviews	ARP's would certainly be a sound choice especially if you're running some increased boost/power The ApexI will certainly be able to be reused too. Remember, increments of 10 ft lbs in OEM pattern, to a total of 85 ft lbs (and use lube) __________________ *Want Air Conditioning in your SR20 Swapped car? Check out www.sr20acbrackets.com for more information! Quest Alternator Conversions for SR20!* Check my Group Buy! Tired of lousy internal gates? Go external wastegate with one of my manifolds, Check out my group buy

06-24-2010, 11:11 AM	#20
Options13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: OR Posts: 1,825 Trader Rating: (43) Feedback Score: 43 reviews	alright sweet! use lube on the head gasket?

06-24-2010, 02:11 PM	#21
Options13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: OR Posts: 1,825 Trader Rating: (43) Feedback Score: 43 reviews	i must of lubed up my rear main oil seal too well? i tapped it in and it all of a sudden slid in, is this ok?

06-24-2010, 11:23 PM	#23
Options13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: OR Posts: 1,825 Trader Rating: (43) Feedback Score: 43 reviews	codyace, your the man!