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Genex626 · 11-23-2010, 09:05 PM

Ok so here is the deal I recently got a s13 with a KADE and the car was running a bit rich drove it home and it ran strong just had lots of black smoke .so in the pass couple days I been trying to get the car to start for some reason it just turns over but doesn't start .the only way to start it is by spraying brake cleaner in the throttle body ... Now the thinks I have check and change are

Fuel filter and replace it
I check maf
Did full tune up

now I think it might be the fuel pump or the injectors what do u guys think also when the car would idle it would shake a little ...

Sileighty_85 · 11-23-2010, 09:09 PM

probably fuel injectors
check them per FSM

Genex626 · 11-23-2010, 09:15 PM

FSM??? What's that

blktopsr20 · 11-23-2010, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genex626

FSM??? What's that

you kidding right? I fell of my chair laughing. thanks i needed that

Sileighty_85 · 11-23-2010, 09:27 PM

Google

"240SX KA24DE FSM"

Genex626 · 11-23-2010, 09:30 PM

For real lol I feel stupid not knowing

Genex626 · 12-01-2010, 02:14 AM

Still have the problem

mike fonseca · 12-01-2010, 01:34 PM

Sell it lol

idlafie · 12-04-2010, 12:10 AM

FSM = Factory Service Manual.

Use the SEARCH function here on Zilvia to find a webpage that has a Factory Service Manual for you to download & read. Find the appropriate FSM for your model year car.

Your running rich issues could be due to several reasons: 1). Your fuel pressure regulator is NOT working or not getting vacuum 2). You may have a bad or leaky fuel injector 3). You may have a bad Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor, 4). You may have a bad Oxygen sensor or 5). Whomever tuned up your car, may have set the Idle too high allowing too much fuel into your combustion chamber.

All these items should be checked following the directions / service procedures listed in the Factory Service Manual. Once you get everything checked out & tuned to factory setting, you should have been able to solve whatever your problem may be. You may also want to check your vacuum lines & intake piping for cracking & tears. You should NOT spray brake cleaner into your throttle body. ONLY use carb cleaner OR throttle body cleaner.

If none of this helps, use your Factory Service Manual to put your Engine Control Unit, (ECU) into Diagnostic Mode & see what Diagnostic Trouble Codes your ECU kicks out

Anyhow, let us know what happens after you check everything. Hope this helps....

ID

idlafie · 12-04-2010, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genex626

For real lol I feel stupid not knowing

PS:
You shouldn't.....a lot of people here on Zilvia started out the same way you did....not knowing a thing. But they've learned over time....just like you will.

ID

Tantwoforty · 12-04-2010, 12:28 AM

Here, Let me google that for you

idlafie · 12-04-2010, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tantwoforty

Here, Let me google that for you

HAHAHAH....ROTFLMAO!!!..HAHAHAHAH....

....Tan...you're such a comedian!!!...hahahaha

ID

drift213 · 12-04-2010, 12:46 AM

dude you have flooding problem.. check if your FPR is good

11-23-2010, 09:05 PM	#1
Genex626 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: socal Age: 37 Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	s13 starting issue and black smoke Ok so here is the deal I recently got a s13 with a KADE and the car was running a bit rich drove it home and it ran strong just had lots of black smoke .so in the pass couple days I been trying to get the car to start for some reason it just turns over but doesn't start .the only way to start it is by spraying brake cleaner in the throttle body ... Now the thinks I have check and change are Fuel filter and replace it I check maf Did full tune up now I think it might be the fuel pump or the injectors what do u guys think also when the car would idle it would shake a little ...

11-23-2010, 09:09 PM	#2
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	probably fuel injectors check them per FSM __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

11-23-2010, 09:27 PM	#5
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Google "240SX KA24DE FSM" __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

12-01-2010, 01:34 PM	#8
mike fonseca Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SoCal Age: 36 Posts: 770 Trader Rating: (43) Feedback Score: 43 reviews	Sell it lol __________________ mike!

12-04-2010, 12:10 AM	#9
idlafie Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ..So Cal.... Posts: 940 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	FSM = Factory Service Manual. Use the SEARCH function here on Zilvia to find a webpage that has a Factory Service Manual for you to download & read. Find the appropriate FSM for your model year car. Your running rich issues could be due to several reasons: 1). Your fuel pressure regulator is NOT working or not getting vacuum 2). You may have a bad or leaky fuel injector 3). You may have a bad Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor, 4). You may have a bad Oxygen sensor or 5). Whomever tuned up your car, may have set the Idle too high allowing too much fuel into your combustion chamber. All these items should be checked following the directions / service procedures listed in the Factory Service Manual. Once you get everything checked out & tuned to factory setting, you should have been able to solve whatever your problem may be. You may also want to check your vacuum lines & intake piping for cracking & tears. You should NOT spray brake cleaner into your throttle body. ONLY use carb cleaner OR throttle body cleaner. If none of this helps, use your Factory Service Manual to put your Engine Control Unit, (ECU) into Diagnostic Mode & see what Diagnostic Trouble Codes your ECU kicks out Anyhow, let us know what happens after you check everything. Hope this helps.... ID __________________ Weekend Mechanic for my Not-So-Mechanically-Inclined buddies....

11-23-2010, 09:15 PM	#3
Genex626 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: socal Age: 37 Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	FSM??? What's that

11-23-2010, 09:30 PM	#6
Genex626 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: socal Age: 37 Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For real lol I feel stupid not knowing

12-01-2010, 02:14 AM	#7
Genex626 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: socal Age: 37 Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Still have the problem

12-04-2010, 12:28 AM	#11
Tantwoforty Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Riverside ca Age: 35 Posts: 1,890 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Here, Let me google that for you

12-04-2010, 12:46 AM	#13
drift213 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: los angeles Posts: 1,089 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	dude you have flooding problem.. check if your FPR is good __________________ LOTS OF SR20,ka24de,s13 goodies for sale check my threds