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integra08 · 03-17-2011, 04:51 PM

I'm finally going to build a car from the ground up and want to do it right.I have already removed the sound deadening and want to put one back in but lighter.I've been looking into a product called lizardskin.Has anyone used it or suggestions?

Kemps · 03-17-2011, 05:12 PM

is this car going to be tracked or daily driven?

03-17-2011, 05:34 PM

light sound deadening is more or less a catch22. if you want sound deadening, it requires adding some material thickness (tar/rubber) or insulation.

Broadfield · 03-17-2011, 06:19 PM

Like Mike noted, good sound deadening is going to be heavier than crappy sound deadening. It's just how it works... more mass, less resonation.

I have carried all of the big name brands of sound deadening at some point or another in the last 19 years. So far I prefer Second Skin the best. Their Damplifier Pro is a tad thicker than the Dynamat extreme... and it's anodized black. Which is very helpful in the car audio world where you can see through the OEM speaker grill. Otherwise you see all of this shiny silver sound deadening. I don't have to paint it or cover it with close cell foam just to hide the silver.

Check them out and let me know if you need any pricing:

Sound Deadening Materials for Noise Reduction from Second Skin

dtfdanyo · 03-17-2011, 07:12 PM

RAAMAT is awesome. I have used it in all of my cars and it's very easy to work with.

Here is there website
RAAMaudio

integra08 · 03-17-2011, 07:19 PM

Its going to be a daily driven car once it is done..I had done some research on the dynomat and everyone said that it didn't make that much of a differnence

03-17-2011, 10:35 PM

i tried sound deadening years ago and i felt that it was the biggest waste of time. in hot weather, shit runs since its tar based and makes a mess. the foil gets scratched and then you have tar everywhere. its like tar and feathering your car, its horrible.

nowadays, if im going to do any sound deadening i will look for something that bonds and cures, similar to an undercoating. i will also rely on insulation to help cancel the unwanted noise.

Farkel · 03-17-2011, 10:37 PM

Don't be a pussy and just embrace the noise. Rattles are character traits. If you're doing this for your sound system, just turn up the volume. I know this because I am an expert, you can trust me.

rebornS14 · 03-17-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

Sound Deadening Materials for Noise Reduction from Second Skin

second skin is good stuff. nothing else like it on the market.

03-17-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Farkel

Don't be a pussy and just embrace the noise. Rattles are character traits. If you're doing this for your sound system, just turn up the volume. I know this because I am an expert, you can trust me.

funny

i didnt have a stereo for the longest in my s13. i think it was 1997 when i had a full stereo. since the sr20det, its been nothing but spool.

Broadfield · 03-17-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

i tried sound deadening years ago and i felt that it was the biggest waste of time. in hot weather, shit runs since its tar based and makes a mess. the foil gets scratched and then you have tar everywhere. its like tar and feathering your car, its horrible.

nowadays, if im going to do any sound deadening i will look for something that bonds and cures, similar to an undercoating. i will also rely on insulation to help cancel the unwanted noise.

That old crap was tar based, as I'm sure some of the cheap crap is today. Newer sound deadening like the Second Skin Damplifier line and the Dynamat Extreme are all butyle rubber. They will never sag even on a vertical surface and are good up to 300 degrees believe it or not.

jeffary · 03-18-2011, 03:56 AM

I'm also thinking about this..
How about that unbranded dynamat stuff (insulation)??

Reccomendations, best bang for buck?

sidewaysil80 · 03-18-2011, 05:45 AM

Anyone ever heard of the quiet car paint? I'm thinking of spraying a few coats, 1. I could easily paint over it and 2. I could spray it in every nook and cranny of the car/panels. I am just hesitant on whether or not it works.

holemilk00 · 03-18-2011, 08:15 AM

Sorry my build thread isn't good enough for chat yet, but I'm in the middle of doing this. After one more week I will be able to give you actually weights of all the factory sound deadening, and the weight of the dynamat and dynapad that will be back in the car. It was also painted with a Rust Bullet, which should help with sound, as well as a Durabak bedliner and stay quiet paint. Here is the progress so far.

azsr20det · 03-18-2011, 04:31 PM

i removed my sound deadening sanded painted and readded carpet.
its not that bad.
if your that worried about sound why not just keep the stock exhaust and not build it to be a fast ass car?

fckillerbee · 03-18-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Farkel

I know this because I am an expert, you can trust me.

hmmmm.....your giving me candy out of a big red van and you want me to come inside....

SURE!!...what's inside? lol

03-17-2011, 04:51 PM	#1
integra08 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Age: 34 Posts: 196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sound deadening I'm finally going to build a car from the ground up and want to do it right.I have already removed the sound deadening and want to put one back in but lighter.I've been looking into a product called lizardskin.Has anyone used it or suggestions?

03-17-2011, 06:19 PM	#4
Broadfield Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Normal, IL Age: 51 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (163) Feedback Score: 163 reviews	Like Mike noted, good sound deadening is going to be heavier than crappy sound deadening. It's just how it works... more mass, less resonation. I have carried all of the big name brands of sound deadening at some point or another in the last 19 years. So far I prefer Second Skin the best. Their Damplifier Pro is a tad thicker than the Dynamat extreme... and it's anodized black. Which is very helpful in the car audio world where you can see through the OEM speaker grill. Otherwise you see all of this shiny silver sound deadening. I don't have to paint it or cover it with close cell foam just to hide the silver. Check them out and let me know if you need any pricing: Sound Deadening Materials for Noise Reduction from Second Skin __________________ Follow Along For My Latest Work My Portfolio Please Share Check Out My Builds

03-17-2011, 07:12 PM	#5
dtfdanyo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 748 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	RAAMAT is awesome. I have used it in all of my cars and it's very easy to work with. Here is there website RAAMaudio __________________ tEAM tUCK

03-17-2011, 10:37 PM	#8
Farkel Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: B̷͈͇̠̗͔̼̝̓̎͛͂A̧̡̠̩̭̹̼̭͔̎̃̈́̍͂ͬͬ̚Y̯̜ͨ̒̾̽͊͘ ͈͙̰ Age: 35 Posts: 487 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Don't be a pussy and just embrace the noise. Rattles are character traits. If you're doing this for your sound system, just turn up the volume. I know this because I am an expert, you can trust me. __________________ ★ ★ GRANDMIGHTY.COM ★ ★

03-18-2011, 08:15 AM	#14
holemilk00 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 2,486 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	Sorry my build thread isn't good enough for chat yet, but I'm in the middle of doing this. After one more week I will be able to give you actually weights of all the factory sound deadening, and the weight of the dynamat and dynapad that will be back in the car. It was also painted with a Rust Bullet, which should help with sound, as well as a Durabak bedliner and stay quiet paint. Here is the progress so far. __________________ I had a cool signature

03-17-2011, 05:12 PM	#2
Kemps BANNED Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Orange County Age: 36 Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	is this car going to be tracked or daily driven?

03-17-2011, 05:34 PM	#3
ixfxi Guest Posts: n/a	light sound deadening is more or less a catch22. if you want sound deadening, it requires adding some material thickness (tar/rubber) or insulation.

03-17-2011, 07:19 PM	#6
integra08 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Age: 34 Posts: 196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its going to be a daily driven car once it is done..I had done some research on the dynomat and everyone said that it didn't make that much of a differnence

03-17-2011, 10:35 PM	#7
ixfxi Guest Posts: n/a	i tried sound deadening years ago and i felt that it was the biggest waste of time. in hot weather, shit runs since its tar based and makes a mess. the foil gets scratched and then you have tar everywhere. its like tar and feathering your car, its horrible. nowadays, if im going to do any sound deadening i will look for something that bonds and cures, similar to an undercoating. i will also rely on insulation to help cancel the unwanted noise.

03-18-2011, 03:56 AM	#12
jeffary Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Albany, CA Posts: 26 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm also thinking about this.. How about that unbranded dynamat stuff (insulation)?? Reccomendations, best bang for buck?

03-18-2011, 05:45 AM	#13
sidewaysil80 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NoVA Age: 38 Posts: 1,711 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Anyone ever heard of the quiet car paint? I'm thinking of spraying a few coats, 1. I could easily paint over it and 2. I could spray it in every nook and cranny of the car/panels. I am just hesitant on whether or not it works.

03-18-2011, 04:31 PM	#15
azsr20det Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: az Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i removed my sound deadening sanded painted and readded carpet. its not that bad. if your that worried about sound why not just keep the stock exhaust and not build it to be a fast ass car?