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po1z5che__ · 11-17-2003, 09:13 PM

Ok, I have a pretty stock KA in my 1993 240sx. Im planning on buying an Apex'i n1 Exuast, but i have some quesitons, first...Apex'i has Turbo and Non-Turbo applcations, im planning on going sr in the future. So should i buy the turbo application? Would it go with the KA? Does anybody have any other suggested system? thanks

speeddreamz · 11-17-2003, 10:09 PM

Yep the turbo one, the one with a 115mm exit and a 95mm piping if im not mistaken. Ur low end won't be as good as b4 but you'll have better high end and more potential when u swap ur sr.

SX_Drifter · 11-17-2003, 10:55 PM

The Apex'i N1 turbo is 80mm (3").
And like speeddreamz said you'll lose some low end with the KA. It'll pay off once you get the SR in though.

nruenarom · 11-18-2003, 12:58 PM

The N1 is also available for NA applications too isn't it? with a 75mm piping? ..the question IS, how will that affect my NA KA? Sound? Low/high end power? anyone have any clue???? ...

Dousan_PG · 11-18-2003, 01:00 PM

sound loud
lose low end
gain high end

po1z5che__ · 11-18-2003, 04:54 PM

so if i plan to go with the n1, ill lose sum low end power. how much exactly are we talking here. i live in regina,saskatchewan, and the roads are short. i dont want to line up against sum piece of rice civic and it smoke me because i cant get the full potential out of my motor becuase of the exhaust. if any one knows exactly how much lwo end is lost, plz help. i wont be doing the swap for several months, is it better to just go for the n1 na application, or go with the turbo. i want a semi loud exhaust, are there any other good ones out there.

Andrew Bohan · 11-18-2003, 05:53 PM

you'll kick yourself for getting the NA exhaust once your SR is in. turbo motor + NA exhaust != fun for you

don't worry about getting smoked by civics on the street. that's not important

Phoen_x_s14 · 11-19-2003, 12:48 AM

like "I'ma driftaholic" said, getting a N/A type catback/exhaust system when your going turbo is a waste of time and money. Might as well get the turbo spec exhaust, so you don't have to waste time by posting it up wherever for sale and then getting a turbo exhaust if you get the N/A version. Learn from my mistake, I was going to get a Blitz Nur Spec R or a Apexi GT Spec catback, but somehow I was talked in to getting a N/A HKS Hiper...still wondering why I let "my so called friend" talked me into getting it when he doesn't know shit bout 240's/silvia/skylines, etc besides hondas...*shudders*

But if you really want power, save up for your engine swap first. That's going to add/give more power then just a catback on the KA24.

Changed my planning on buying parts:
1. Rb25det clip and parts needed to install
2. Fuel, air, and cooling upgrades
3. Head rebuild, port polish
4-10. Everything else that bolts on

phatkorean · 11-19-2003, 03:29 AM

What about the 85mm HKS Hiper(some call it High Power?) exhaust for turbo applications? It comes with a silencer so you won't be super loud with your NA engine and once the turbo is on, the silencer comes off. Plus the HKS ships in several parts as opposed to the Apexi N1 one piece. It might be more exspensive, but with the high shipping cost of the N1 and the silencer(should you decide to buy one) it will be really close to the same price as the HKS.

I'm not sure about power difference but I assume with the silencer you will not lose much power. You might not gain much power either but 5hp here and 7hp there really can't come compare with the XX HP or XXX HP you will gain with the Turbo.

No Motiv · 11-19-2003, 07:08 AM

Yeah go with the turbo APP. IT Will be loud.. so get that SR... WOOP

nruenarom · 11-19-2003, 06:44 PM

Suggestions needed/wanted ...I am lookin' to order an exhuast for my '92 KA42DE in a few days or so ..what do you guys think?

HKS Hiper aka Hi-Power (65mm) or..
APEX'i Single N1 (75mm and about $100 cheaper)

Pros and cons of each on my application? Your help will be gladly apprciated! Thanks...

po1z5che__ · 11-19-2003, 07:06 PM

well if u were following along, which u werent, u wouldve known that the n1 loses sum low end, but has sum high end gains. dunno about the hi-power, by the way, does anyone have sum sound clips of the n1

love to hear it.

UCC0279 · 11-19-2003, 08:38 PM

Well, I too had the same delima couple of months ago.
NA or Turbo Exhaust. somehow, I end up with a HKS NA Hi-Power for now.

I spoke to several of my friends with turbo experience. According to them,If you are not going to modify your SR like crazy, a NA 65 mm such as HKS Hi-Power might be ok. Actually, one of my friend's WRX with HKS Hi-Power 85 mm in diameter makes around 420 HP at wheels.(Thanks to his HKS-GT-3037) He says, a 65-70 mm pipe probably would be good enough for light-tuned SR. Say 180-230 WHP.

I've also noticed that one of famous Japanese After Market Brand
"Kei-Office" Their Street version Exhausts for SRDET have only 70 mm in diameter though. Perhaps that tells us something.

ANyway, 85 mm probably is the way to go if you want to have 300 HP or up.

Later

11-17-2003, 09:13 PM	#1
po1z5che__ Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Age: 40 Posts: 232 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Apex'i N1 Exhuast Ok, I have a pretty stock KA in my 1993 240sx. Im planning on buying an Apex'i n1 Exuast, but i have some quesitons, first...Apex'i has Turbo and Non-Turbo applcations, im planning on going sr in the future. So should i buy the turbo application? Would it go with the KA? Does anybody have any other suggested system? thanks

11-17-2003, 10:55 PM	#3
SX_Drifter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The Apex'i N1 turbo is 80mm (3"). And like speeddreamz said you'll lose some low end with the KA. It'll pay off once you get the SR in though. __________________ Anthony S14 Coupe SHIFT_Inspiration

11-18-2003, 01:00 PM	#5
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	sound loud lose low end gain high end __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

11-19-2003, 12:48 AM	#8
Phoen_x_s14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: ATL, GA Age: 42 Posts: 311 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	like "I'ma driftaholic" said, getting a N/A type catback/exhaust system when your going turbo is a waste of time and money. Might as well get the turbo spec exhaust, so you don't have to waste time by posting it up wherever for sale and then getting a turbo exhaust if you get the N/A version. Learn from my mistake, I was going to get a Blitz Nur Spec R or a Apexi GT Spec catback, but somehow I was talked in to getting a N/A HKS Hiper...still wondering why I let "my so called friend" talked me into getting it when he doesn't know shit bout 240's/silvia/skylines, etc besides hondas...shudders But if you really want power, save up for your engine swap first. That's going to add/give more power then just a catback on the KA24. Changed my planning on buying parts: 1. Rb25det clip and parts needed to install 2. Fuel, air, and cooling upgrades 3. Head rebuild, port polish 4-10. Everything else that bolts on __________________

11-19-2003, 07:08 AM	#10
No Motiv Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 1,189 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah go with the turbo APP. IT Will be loud.. so get that SR... WOOP __________________ -Austin My name is Shake-Zula, the mic rulah, the old schoolah, you wanna trip, I'll break it to ya. Frylock and I'm on top rock you like a cop, Meatwad you're up next with your knock-knock. Meatwad make the money see, Meatwad get the honeys G. Drivin in my car, livin like a star, ice on my fingers and my toes and I'm a Taurus. Cause we are the Aqua Teens, make the homeys say ho and the girlies wanna scream.

11-17-2003, 10:09 PM	#2
speeddreamz Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco, California Age: 40 Posts: 1,015 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yep the turbo one, the one with a 115mm exit and a 95mm piping if im not mistaken. Ur low end won't be as good as b4 but you'll have better high end and more potential when u swap ur sr.

11-18-2003, 12:58 PM	#4
nruenarom Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: MD Age: 37 Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The N1 is also available for NA applications too isn't it? with a 75mm piping? ..the question IS, how will that affect my NA KA? Sound? Low/high end power? anyone have any clue???? ...

11-18-2003, 04:54 PM	#6
po1z5che__ Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Age: 40 Posts: 232 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so if i plan to go with the n1, ill lose sum low end power. how much exactly are we talking here. i live in regina,saskatchewan, and the roads are short. i dont want to line up against sum piece of rice civic and it smoke me because i cant get the full potential out of my motor becuase of the exhaust. if any one knows exactly how much lwo end is lost, plz help. i wont be doing the swap for several months, is it better to just go for the n1 na application, or go with the turbo. i want a semi loud exhaust, are there any other good ones out there.

11-18-2003, 05:53 PM	#7
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	you'll kick yourself for getting the NA exhaust once your SR is in. turbo motor + NA exhaust != fun for you don't worry about getting smoked by civics on the street. that's not important

11-19-2003, 03:29 AM	#9
phatkorean Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What about the 85mm HKS Hiper(some call it High Power?) exhaust for turbo applications? It comes with a silencer so you won't be super loud with your NA engine and once the turbo is on, the silencer comes off. Plus the HKS ships in several parts as opposed to the Apexi N1 one piece. It might be more exspensive, but with the high shipping cost of the N1 and the silencer(should you decide to buy one) it will be really close to the same price as the HKS. I'm not sure about power difference but I assume with the silencer you will not lose much power. You might not gain much power either but 5hp here and 7hp there really can't come compare with the XX HP or XXX HP you will gain with the Turbo.

11-19-2003, 06:44 PM	#11
nruenarom Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: MD Age: 37 Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Suggestions needed/wanted ...I am lookin' to order an exhuast for my '92 KA42DE in a few days or so ..what do you guys think? HKS Hiper aka Hi-Power (65mm) or.. APEX'i Single N1 (75mm and about $100 cheaper) Pros and cons of each on my application? Your help will be gladly apprciated! Thanks...

11-19-2003, 07:06 PM	#12
po1z5che__ Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Age: 40 Posts: 232 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well if u were following along, which u werent, u wouldve known that the n1 loses sum low end, but has sum high end gains. dunno about the hi-power, by the way, does anyone have sum sound clips of the n1 love to hear it.

11-19-2003, 08:38 PM	#13
UCC0279 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Clara Age: 56 Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Exhaust Well, I too had the same delima couple of months ago. NA or Turbo Exhaust. somehow, I end up with a HKS NA Hi-Power for now. I spoke to several of my friends with turbo experience. According to them,If you are not going to modify your SR like crazy, a NA 65 mm such as HKS Hi-Power might be ok. Actually, one of my friend's WRX with HKS Hi-Power 85 mm in diameter makes around 420 HP at wheels.(Thanks to his HKS-GT-3037) He says, a 65-70 mm pipe probably would be good enough for light-tuned SR. Say 180-230 WHP. I've also noticed that one of famous Japanese After Market Brand "Kei-Office" Their Street version Exhausts for SRDET have only 70 mm in diameter though. Perhaps that tells us something. ANyway, 85 mm probably is the way to go if you want to have 300 HP or up. Later