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LongGrain · 03-09-2009, 03:28 PM

ok so i just upgraded from an NRG hub to a works bell... easy right? well i'm having some trouble.

1. i cant get the hub to sit all the way down onto the steering column/consolle/shroud dealy... normal? i'm not sure.

2. do i need to use those two little metal rods they give me with it? if so what are they for? i cant see any use for them....

this is on an S13. i used the little arrow they have to mark what should be the top. but maybe i have it cocked one tooth off or something? its hard to tell since i cant drive the car at the moment. the NRG was very simple, just bolted right on with no problems, everything worked fine.

crazy_kat_matt · 03-09-2009, 03:31 PM

pics of it to see whats wrong? also the rods are for the signal return. so its up to you if you want it or not.

LongGrain · 03-09-2009, 03:32 PM

where do they even go? i know the hub has holes for them.. but my steering column doesnt have any holes in it that i can see..

i wont be home again to take a picture until this weekend. i'm not in a huge hurry, just a little concerned..

LongGrain · 03-20-2009, 12:38 PM

anyone else?

SoSideways · 03-20-2009, 12:55 PM

The metal rods go on the back of the hub. You have to pretty much use a hammer to tap them into place.

They are used for the turn signal return function, for when you have completed the turn and when you're returning the steering wheel to the straight position, those rods catch the plastic arms that stick out after you've activated the turn signal, and it cancels them.

As for not seating all the way, I have the same problem too, although I thought it was just me.

Basically, it seems the hub doesn't seat all the way down on the steering shaft, so when you bolt everything back up, the back of the hub don't touch the metal rods sticking out of the steering column, thus no horn or anything.

Same thing with me.

Think I had the same problem with the HKB hub that I previously had too.

bigOdom1 · 03-20-2009, 12:57 PM

the hub should mount all the way down then adjust the black trim to the correct spot(close but not touching). the metal tab things are for the horn if that is what you are talking about. need pics to clarify.

MrChow · 03-20-2009, 01:07 PM

it's normal. As everyone else had said get some pics.

LongGrain · 03-21-2009, 12:48 PM

does anyone have a pic of where i need to put the turn signal cancelor rods? there are 4 holes in the hub and 2 rods.

i'll try to get a pic today when i'm working on the car

mrflip69 · 03-21-2009, 03:19 PM

Look for the holes on the column and go from there. The hub should slip in all the way--just give it a good jiggle. My cheapy NRG short hub went all the way (and now I probably can't pull it out heh), so a nice Works hub should fit flush. There's no reason the horn shouldn't work, other than a faulty install.

WildAsDaTaliban · 07-15-2009, 10:03 PM

i have the same problem. here's a picture.

essforteen · 07-15-2009, 11:25 PM

I think thats for the s14 and s13 with airbags
they have it designed that way to clear the spiral cable aka clock spring

MidwestMyriad · 06-02-2011, 09:03 AM

Have the same problem, not to bring back from the dead but you just need a longer shroud.

*hOngsterr* · 06-02-2011, 10:48 AM

and i thought only s14 had airbags lol

03-09-2009, 03:28 PM	#1
LongGrain Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,741 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Help with works bell hub... kind of embarrassing. ok so i just upgraded from an NRG hub to a works bell... easy right? well i'm having some trouble. 1. i cant get the hub to sit all the way down onto the steering column/consolle/shroud dealy... normal? i'm not sure. 2. do i need to use those two little metal rods they give me with it? if so what are they for? i cant see any use for them.... this is on an S13. i used the little arrow they have to mark what should be the top. but maybe i have it cocked one tooth off or something? its hard to tell since i cant drive the car at the moment. the NRG was very simple, just bolted right on with no problems, everything worked fine.

03-20-2009, 12:55 PM	#5
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	The metal rods go on the back of the hub. You have to pretty much use a hammer to tap them into place. They are used for the turn signal return function, for when you have completed the turn and when you're returning the steering wheel to the straight position, those rods catch the plastic arms that stick out after you've activated the turn signal, and it cancels them. As for not seating all the way, I have the same problem too, although I thought it was just me. Basically, it seems the hub doesn't seat all the way down on the steering shaft, so when you bolt everything back up, the back of the hub don't touch the metal rods sticking out of the steering column, thus no horn or anything. Same thing with me. Think I had the same problem with the HKB hub that I previously had too. __________________ SoSideway's iTrader Rating!! *SoSideways' Review Thread!!* http://sosideways.wordpress.com/

03-20-2009, 12:57 PM	#6
bigOdom1 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Auburn/Birmingham AL Age: 41 Posts: 1,817 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: bigOdom1 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	the hub should mount all the way down then adjust the black trim to the correct spot(close but not touching). the metal tab things are for the horn if that is what you are talking about. need pics to clarify. __________________ my car domain that good review thread

06-02-2011, 09:03 AM	#12
MidwestMyriad Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Traveling through time and space... Posts: 1,387 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Have the same problem, not to bring back from the dead but you just need a longer shroud. __________________ @MMyriad

03-09-2009, 03:31 PM	#2
crazy_kat_matt Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tomball, TX/Mililani, HI Posts: 99 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	pics of it to see whats wrong? also the rods are for the signal return. so its up to you if you want it or not.

03-09-2009, 03:32 PM	#3
LongGrain Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,741 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	where do they even go? i know the hub has holes for them.. but my steering column doesnt have any holes in it that i can see.. i wont be home again to take a picture until this weekend. i'm not in a huge hurry, just a little concerned..

03-20-2009, 12:38 PM	#4
LongGrain Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,741 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	anyone else?

03-21-2009, 12:48 PM	#8
LongGrain Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,741 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	does anyone have a pic of where i need to put the turn signal cancelor rods? there are 4 holes in the hub and 2 rods. i'll try to get a pic today when i'm working on the car

03-21-2009, 03:19 PM	#9
mrflip69 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 603 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Look for the holes on the column and go from there. The hub should slip in all the way--just give it a good jiggle. My cheapy NRG short hub went all the way (and now I probably can't pull it out heh), so a nice Works hub should fit flush. There's no reason the horn shouldn't work, other than a faulty install.

07-15-2009, 10:03 PM	#10
WildAsDaTaliban Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: WA Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i have the same problem. here's a picture.

07-15-2009, 11:25 PM	#11
essforteen Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: LAX Area (So CAL) Posts: 1,802 Trader Rating: (50) Rides Gallery: essforteen Feedback Score: 50 reviews	I think thats for the s14 and s13 with airbags they have it designed that way to clear the spiral cable aka clock spring