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Punisher · 12-01-2003, 06:22 PM

does anyone have an idea of who makes camshafts for the ka24e??

zero.counter · 12-01-2003, 06:39 PM

I gots mines from JWT.

Punisher · 12-01-2003, 06:45 PM

how much does JWT sell them for?

whateverjames · 12-01-2003, 06:46 PM

http://www.coltcams.com/
and they're in Canada

Punisher · 12-01-2003, 06:53 PM

the link didnt work...nvm

Nismopu · 12-01-2003, 06:58 PM

Nismo sells a pretty good cam, I priced it out one time. I think it was close to $500 with everything from Nissan, they have one for race and one for street. Nismo catalog is $5 from any Nissan Dealer

Punisher · 12-01-2003, 07:03 PM

thanks alot guys, i have already sent a email to coltcams and will check out the nismo catalog tomorrow....thanx again for the help

240mph · 12-01-2003, 08:08 PM

i got a nismo cam willling to let go for 300 shipped very good in mid-topend selling cause going back to stock

deviousKA · 12-01-2003, 08:14 PM

what cam spec you looking for? you going to be boosting or na build? Jwt and nismo are ungodly overpriced, pdm/colt makes good regrinds i have personally used a few of theirs. The head on my car is for sale with pdm stage 2 cam and solid lifter conversion, im going to a very very high lift cam. find a regrinder near your area and tell them the specs you want. Cam grinding is nothing special, jwt, nismo, pdm and other make a lot of money off cam grinds.

240mph · 12-01-2003, 08:18 PM

THE PROBLEM ABOUT REGRINDS IS THAT IN PERFORMANCE WISE IT DOESNT MATCH UP WITH THE NISMO WHICH ARE NOT REGRINDS I GOT A NISMO CAM FOR 300 SHIPPED

deviousKA · 12-01-2003, 08:35 PM

there is no difference in "performance". lift is still lift and duration is still duration. When regrinds require many thousands taken off bearing caps, the issues is with rocker arm angle. With any high lift cam solid adjustable lifters should be used, and with huge regrinds adjustable lifters are necessary to get appropriate rocker angle, and valves "may" need to be shortened. Kid stuff.

BeteNoir · 12-01-2003, 10:54 PM

That is correct. There is no diff in performance. I would never do a regrind for reliability issues tho. Nismo sells billet cam blanks if you want to do a custom grind.

Nismopu · 12-02-2003, 01:24 AM

In my opinion buy Devious's head! That sounds like a pretty good deal! Find out the cam specs. BTW Nismo's are regrinds thats why they offer a billet cam for like 500 or something like that.
Either way the Nismo cam is an excellent choice and you know it will work for what ever you want to do with the car.

Nismopu · 12-02-2003, 01:32 AM

Whats wrong with re-grinds? I have one in my TURBO 280Z and its just fine. They used to run the re-grind Nismo cams all the time in the GT series 240sx's on the SCCA circuit.

Punisher · 12-02-2003, 10:51 AM

im actualy sticking to N/A beczuse this is just for a daily driver....i felt that it needed a bit more power, i also dont wanna spend lots of cash on the best cams out there.....i dont know how long im gonna keep this car for but i know its gonna be for another year or so, unless something comes up before that... i wanted to know a general price, wat gains would i get in preformance and if there is anything else i would have to do to the head? (valves, springs, etc.)

Var · 12-02-2003, 11:16 AM

www.realnissan.com sells racing KA parts.

you guys out there with racing heads and such, do you know of any good race engine builders in norcal that dont charge an arm and a leg? Realnissan does the racing block and racing head for 2700 bucks. all assembled.

knghtryde · 12-02-2003, 03:05 PM

240mph,

You still have the cam. Let me know.

PDM racing has 3 stages of cams you should hit them up. They are 250 each plus core.

All my race heads have had regrinds in them and I've never once had a problem with them.

*Jeff240sx* · 12-02-2003, 03:14 PM

LOL! Regrind vs. billet.
Regrinds require a bit more mechanics to get into the motor and work properly, whereas billet are designed to drop right in. That's about it. With a billet cam, expect to pay a premium to not have any installation issues. With a regrind, expect to pay additional cash ($64 to be more exact) for new shims, the occasional other parts listed above (not always needed), and a bit more time to install.
JWT cams are $560 last I checked (when I bought mine).
And 240mph, please refrain from typing in all caps.
-Jeff

Nismopu · 12-03-2003, 02:18 AM

Drop right in? A billet cam is a cam stock:no lobes! At least the ones in the Nismo catalog are, my friend oredered a set for his sr20 powered sand rail. A machine shop charges max, $60 to setup the valvetrain for a regrind. Which is the least expense to worry about when getting a new cam, dont forget the new valvetrain components required.

Var · 12-03-2003, 10:08 AM

The term billet camshaft isn't always used to describe a blank one. There are billet pre-grinds too. but it goes both ways

*Jeff240sx* · 12-03-2003, 10:22 AM

If you flip through any parts catalog, Summit, Jegs, ect, they separate the cams into billet cams and regrind cams. Billet cams just describe that they were once billet steel and regrinds are just that. I believe that JWT called my cams billet cams, too. It's a normal term to call it, and are you sure that Nismo didn't call it a billet cam blank?
-Jeff

allmotorKA · 12-03-2003, 10:55 AM

Nissan Motorsports (not NISMO) sells the KA24E cam billet...they just call it a billet and then describe it as having the cam lobes UNGROUND. Nissan Motorsports (again not NISMO) also sells a KA24E performance cam that is not a regrind...it is purely drop in.

Nismopu · 12-03-2003, 11:31 AM

I see....sorry...I always thought that since thats the way saw it through NISMO that it was always true for a billet cam. I see now that it can go both ways!

Yeah, learning is fun LOL!

knghtryde · 12-03-2003, 12:44 PM

Does nissan motorsports have a web page I can check out? I wanna see how their cam performs.

Nismopu · 12-03-2003, 01:42 PM

http://www.courtesyparts.com/nms/s13/index.html

doesnt have performance #'s but it does list the lift and technical data specific to each camshaft

Also the book is only $5 at your local nissan dealer!

Good Luck!

BeteNoir · 12-03-2003, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by allmotorKA
Nissan Motorsports (not NISMO) sells the KA24E cam billet...they just call it a billet and then describe it as having the cam lobes UNGROUND. Nissan Motorsports (again not NISMO) also sells a KA24E performance cam that is not a regrind...it is purely drop in.

I guess I'm ignorant but I always thought that Nismo and Nissan Motorsports referred to the same thing.

And yes as long as the regrind comes with accurate instructions for install it will perform just as well. They were probably bad installs but I've seen some horrible results from using regrinds.

knghtryde · 12-03-2003, 03:17 PM

For anyone interested:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2446435764

I ran accross it today, and I already have a kit going on my car, and I've already rebuilt my block so I don't need it.

allmotorKA · 12-03-2003, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BeteNoir
I guess I'm ignorant but I always thought that Nismo and Nissan Motorsports referred to the same thing....

Nismo is Nissan Motorsports International based in Japan.

Nissan Motorsports is a division of Nissan North America Inc. which is based in California.

12-01-2003, 06:22 PM	#1
Punisher Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 63 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ka24e cams does anyone have an idea of who makes camshafts for the ka24e?? __________________ -= βΐĢ קּűиוֹﻛђЭŘ =- R.I.P - 1990 240sx fastback (slammed) Project - 1992 240sx fastback

12-01-2003, 06:45 PM	#3
Punisher Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 63 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how much does JWT sell them for? __________________ -= βΐĢ קּűиוֹﻛђЭŘ =- R.I.P - 1990 240sx fastback (slammed) Project - 1992 240sx fastback

12-01-2003, 06:46 PM	#4
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 45 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.coltcams.com/ and they're in Canada __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

12-01-2003, 06:53 PM	#5
Punisher Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 63 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the link didnt work...nvm __________________ -= βΐĢ קּűиוֹﻛђЭŘ =- R.I.P - 1990 240sx fastback (slammed) Project - 1992 240sx fastback

12-01-2003, 06:58 PM	#6
Nismopu Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver,WA Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nismo sells a pretty good cam, I priced it out one time. I think it was close to $500 with everything from Nissan, they have one for race and one for street. Nismo catalog is $5 from any Nissan Dealer __________________ Driving faster excites the senses and makes you more aware of your surroundings. A.K.A a better driver!

12-01-2003, 06:39 PM	#2
zero.counter Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: At work Posts: 2,003 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I gots mines from JWT.

12-01-2003, 07:03 PM	#7
Punisher Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 63 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks alot guys, i have already sent a email to coltcams and will check out the nismo catalog tomorrow....thanx again for the help __________________ -= βΐĢ קּűиוֹﻛђЭŘ =- R.I.P - 1990 240sx fastback (slammed) Project - 1992 240sx fastback

12-01-2003, 08:08 PM	#8
240mph Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: guam Posts: 422 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	.................................................. ............... i got a nismo cam willling to let go for 300 shipped very good in mid-topend selling cause going back to stock

12-01-2003, 08:14 PM	#9
deviousKA Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Idaho Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what cam spec you looking for? you going to be boosting or na build? Jwt and nismo are ungodly overpriced, pdm/colt makes good regrinds i have personally used a few of theirs. The head on my car is for sale with pdm stage 2 cam and solid lifter conversion, im going to a very very high lift cam. find a regrinder near your area and tell them the specs you want. Cam grinding is nothing special, jwt, nismo, pdm and other make a lot of money off cam grinds.

12-01-2003, 08:18 PM	#10
240mph Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: guam Posts: 422 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	THE PROBLEM ABOUT REGRINDS IS THAT IN PERFORMANCE WISE IT DOESNT MATCH UP WITH THE NISMO WHICH ARE NOT REGRINDS I GOT A NISMO CAM FOR 300 SHIPPED

12-01-2003, 08:35 PM	#11
deviousKA Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Idaho Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	there is no difference in "performance". lift is still lift and duration is still duration. When regrinds require many thousands taken off bearing caps, the issues is with rocker arm angle. With any high lift cam solid adjustable lifters should be used, and with huge regrinds adjustable lifters are necessary to get appropriate rocker angle, and valves "may" need to be shortened. Kid stuff.

12-01-2003, 10:54 PM	#12
BeteNoir Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SoFla Posts: 38 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That is correct. There is no diff in performance. I would never do a regrind for reliability issues tho. Nismo sells billet cam blanks if you want to do a custom grind.

12-02-2003, 01:24 AM	#13
Nismopu Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver,WA Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	In my opinion buy Devious's head! That sounds like a pretty good deal! Find out the cam specs. BTW Nismo's are regrinds thats why they offer a billet cam for like 500 or something like that. Either way the Nismo cam is an excellent choice and you know it will work for what ever you want to do with the car. __________________ Driving faster excites the senses and makes you more aware of your surroundings. A.K.A a better driver!

12-02-2003, 01:32 AM	#14
Nismopu Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver,WA Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Whats wrong with re-grinds? I have one in my TURBO 280Z and its just fine. They used to run the re-grind Nismo cams all the time in the GT series 240sx's on the SCCA circuit. __________________ Driving faster excites the senses and makes you more aware of your surroundings. A.K.A a better driver!

12-02-2003, 10:51 AM	#15
Punisher Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 63 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im actualy sticking to N/A beczuse this is just for a daily driver....i felt that it needed a bit more power, i also dont wanna spend lots of cash on the best cams out there.....i dont know how long im gonna keep this car for but i know its gonna be for another year or so, unless something comes up before that... i wanted to know a general price, wat gains would i get in preformance and if there is anything else i would have to do to the head? (valves, springs, etc.) __________________ -= βΐĢ קּűиוֹﻛђЭŘ =- R.I.P - 1990 240sx fastback (slammed) Project - 1992 240sx fastback

12-02-2003, 11:16 AM	#16
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 43 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	www.realnissan.com sells racing KA parts. you guys out there with racing heads and such, do you know of any good race engine builders in norcal that dont charge an arm and a leg? Realnissan does the racing block and racing head for 2700 bucks. all assembled. __________________ Hi

12-02-2003, 03:05 PM	#17
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 45 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	240mph, You still have the cam. Let me know. PDM racing has 3 stages of cams you should hit them up. They are 250 each plus core. All my race heads have had regrinds in them and I've never once had a problem with them. __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

12-02-2003, 03:14 PM	#18
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 42 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	LOL! Regrind vs. billet. Regrinds require a bit more mechanics to get into the motor and work properly, whereas billet are designed to drop right in. That's about it. With a billet cam, expect to pay a premium to not have any installation issues. With a regrind, expect to pay additional cash ($64 to be more exact) for new shims, the occasional other parts listed above (not always needed), and a bit more time to install. JWT cams are $560 last I checked (when I bought mine). And 240mph, please refrain from typing in all caps. -Jeff __________________ Whatup?

12-03-2003, 02:18 AM	#19
Nismopu Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver,WA Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Drop right in? A billet cam is a cam stock:no lobes! At least the ones in the Nismo catalog are, my friend oredered a set for his sr20 powered sand rail. A machine shop charges max, $60 to setup the valvetrain for a regrind. Which is the least expense to worry about when getting a new cam, dont forget the new valvetrain components required. __________________ Driving faster excites the senses and makes you more aware of your surroundings. A.K.A a better driver!

12-03-2003, 10:08 AM	#20
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 43 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The term billet camshaft isn't always used to describe a blank one. There are billet pre-grinds too. but it goes both ways __________________ Hi

12-03-2003, 10:22 AM	#21
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 42 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you flip through any parts catalog, Summit, Jegs, ect, they separate the cams into billet cams and regrind cams. Billet cams just describe that they were once billet steel and regrinds are just that. I believe that JWT called my cams billet cams, too. It's a normal term to call it, and are you sure that Nismo didn't call it a billet cam blank? -Jeff __________________ Whatup?

12-03-2003, 10:55 AM	#22
allmotorKA Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Nissan Motorsports (not NISMO) sells the KA24E cam billet...they just call it a billet and then describe it as having the cam lobes UNGROUND. Nissan Motorsports (again not NISMO) also sells a KA24E performance cam that is not a regrind...it is purely drop in.

12-03-2003, 11:31 AM	#23
Nismopu Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver,WA Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I see....sorry...I always thought that since thats the way saw it through NISMO that it was always true for a billet cam. I see now that it can go both ways! Yeah, learning is fun LOL! __________________ Driving faster excites the senses and makes you more aware of your surroundings. A.K.A a better driver!

12-03-2003, 12:44 PM	#24
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 45 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Does nissan motorsports have a web page I can check out? I wanna see how their cam performs. __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

12-03-2003, 01:42 PM	#25
Nismopu Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver,WA Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.courtesyparts.com/nms/s13/index.html doesnt have performance #'s but it does list the lift and technical data specific to each camshaft Also the book is only $5 at your local nissan dealer! Good Luck! __________________ Driving faster excites the senses and makes you more aware of your surroundings. A.K.A a better driver!

12-03-2003, 03:17 PM	#27
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 45 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For anyone interested: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2446435764 I ran accross it today, and I already have a kit going on my car, and I've already rebuilt my block so I don't need it. __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.