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Old 01-10-2002, 04:56 PM   #1
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Ok I am looking for a new car but not really sure what i want I know I want at least a 3.0 liter w/ possibly a Vtec engine but I dont realy know where to look for one at can someone help me out a little and maybe tell me some more about this car... the Nissan 300ZX that is  sorry guys...

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Old 01-10-2002, 05:00 PM   #2
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don't know a whole lot about 300zx's but do know I allways liked the 2+2 seater.
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Old 01-10-2002, 05:04 PM   #3
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twin turbo or n/a 300zx.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Luv on 4:56 pm on Jan. 10, 2002
Ok I am looking for a new car but not really sure what i want I know I want at least a 3.0 liter w/ possibly a Vtec engine but I dont realy know where to look for one at can someone help me out a little and maybe tell me some more about this car... the Nissan 300ZX that is sorry guys...

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Do you even know what VTEC does ?
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Old 01-10-2002, 05:07 PM   #5
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I don't think honda has any 3.0+ litre vtec engines. If you get a 300, get a TT. IMO the N/A's don't have enough power to make up for their weight.
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Old 01-10-2002, 05:19 PM   #6
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there's the NSX with Vtec... &nbsp; i wonder if those acura cl cars have vtec
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the twin turbo.. &nbsp;no i dont really know much about the Vtec i just know it gives a little more horsepower or so i hear
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Old 01-10-2002, 05:40 PM   #8
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yeah but James i dont quite have the money for a NSX lol
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what exactly in technical terms does the Vtec do Kid?
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Old 01-10-2002, 05:43 PM   #10
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I have a '91 300ZX 2+2 NA &nbsp;It's an awsome car as lomg as you don't mind putting in the $$ for Maintenance and repairs. They can get pretty expensive. I have never driven the TT but I have gotten the NA up to 145mph and that was only because of the limiter otherwise it would have been much higher. and I find it has plenty of power and nearly perfect handeling for my taste.
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Old 01-10-2002, 05:47 PM   #11
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the thing is I dont really like the old body style myself though &nbsp;would a different body kit make it look better?
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VTEC gives you two (or more) seperate cam profiles.

Realistically VTEC just gets you better gas milage. It's the high compression and agressive timing that give you more performance.

Really it depends on how you look at it, but it doesn't neccessarily make a car fast.
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Old 01-10-2002, 06:04 PM   #13
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I don't know how much you do or don't know but here are some links that I found helpful...
<a href="http://www.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm" target='_blank'>http://www.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm</a>
<a href="http://www.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm" target='_blank'>http://www.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm</a> that explains how car engines work and how vtec works.
BTW honda/acura is the only company that has vtec, but a lot of other car companies have similar things.

&quot;Several engine manufacturers are experimenting with systems that would allow infinite variability in valve timing&quot; I think porshe succeeded at this with their new 911 turbo...

I saw another link at the bottom of that page...<a href="http://www.leecao.com/honda/vtec/index.html" target='_blank'>http://www.leecao.com/honda/vtec/index.html</a> hehe &quot;just what the heck is the thing that the rice boys are bragging about?&quot;

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Old 01-10-2002, 06:07 PM   #14
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Luv on 5:41 pm on Jan. 10, 2002
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Well, they already explained it for ya.... happy reading
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Old 01-10-2002, 06:31 PM   #15
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i had a NA Z32 2 seater, loved that car, still do, i want another one, if anyone thinks that the NA Z's are a maintenence nightmare, just wait until you get ahold of a TT, i've worked at nissan dealers and it's not pretty, they can be absolute screamers if you set them up properly and keep em running, the Z32 didn't have any kind of varialbe valve timing as far as i know, 222hp stock is quite a bit compared to our 155, they are faster in a straight line, but don't have quite the handling capability i don't think

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Old 01-10-2002, 07:06 PM   #16
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Thanks you guys &nbsp;looks like ill be up reading all night ... hehe
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Old 01-10-2002, 07:25 PM   #17
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Honda has many engines that are 3.0 and higher with &quot;V-Tec&quot; 1st one would be the 1998 and up V6 accord with 200 hp at 6000rpms and 195 ft lbs. Its a great car and is had great pick up. The next one that comes to mind is the TL and CL also 98 and up but only on the 3.0 spec untill late last year when they got the best V6 ever made by Honda IMO the 3.5L TL/CL engine with 260hp and right around 222 ft lbs.... Many ppl that have tested the new TL/CL type S say its the best ride and power feel to ever come out of Honda V6 and I qoute &quot;Yes we know the NSX have a V6&quot; So there what I can help you with... Happy hunting. &nbsp; BTW if you care.



Specs!!!!!!!!!!
0-60 98 V6 Accord 7.4 and 15.8 1/4 mile

0-60 TL/CL type S 6.0 and 1/4 mile is right around 14.8 to 14.7

PS these are all auto, FWD witch is why I have a Nissan. :-)
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Old 01-10-2002, 07:34 PM   #18
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DSC &nbsp;that one website is pretty bad ass... i just learned that you can take a 2.0 liter engine and make it better than a 4.0 liter engine.... this is great
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Old 01-10-2002, 09:28 PM   #19
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#### i think i learned more about cars tonight than ive learned in my whole life &nbsp; i dont wanna quit learning now until i know it all lol
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Old 01-10-2002, 09:41 PM   #20
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vtec is just hondas name for controlling cam lift and lobes etc etc toyota has vvt and vvt-i i think? nissan has now cvvt or cvt whatever . wasnt toyota the first to introduce this design? ive always been curious about that.

i know old maximas had vtc's on the intakes and so do the 300's
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Old 01-10-2002, 10:07 PM   #21
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i'll atest for the cl type-s &nbsp;my dad has one.... man that fucker hauls major ass
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Old 01-10-2002, 10:55 PM   #22
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I dont know but after reading up on Vtec a little bit &nbsp;i kinda like it myself cause you gotta turn the lobes a few degrees to make the valves close later instead of earlier making it to where the fuel and air intake is faster making your car react at a better time... if my understanding was right on that
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You forgot the Odyssey minivan. &nbsp;It comes with a 3.0 V6 with VTEC. &nbsp;I used to drive one when I worked for Honda. &nbsp;Let me tell you...for a minivan, it hauls ass. &nbsp;Especially when the inside is gutted. &nbsp;

I was king of the minivan stoplight drags. &nbsp; I owned Caravans, Windstars, Town and Country's....you name it. &nbsp;You'd be suprised how many married, middle-aged gusy who were forced into getting a kid hauler are game for a little slushbox racing.
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LoL @ S14Pilot &nbsp; sounds like you had a lot of fun with that thing...
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Luv: Now start reading up on our beloved 240sx. Drive one, and you won't go back <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> They are the best handling and best looking cars in their class, and with a l'il work, no slouch at the drag strip.
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Old 01-11-2002, 12:26 AM   #26
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yeah i like the 240SX my boyfriend has one...
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Luv, you may not really want a 3.0 V6 engine.

I used to drive a 3.0 V6 (Dodge Daytona). I really love the car, and it had alot of power. I remember thinking that I wouldn't be happy only having a 4 cylinder engine after owning that car. I now (proudly) own a 98 240sx, and I can tell you, that it is definately faster than my old 3.0 engine was.
Now I'm not trying to sell you a 240 or anything, just to point out that you would be supprised by what a 4 cylinder can do. My friend has a 99 Prelude (vtec), and a 93 Integra (also with vtec), and both are fast. Even before he modified either car, they had plenty of pickup and speed. And there are alot of 4 cylinder 1.8, 2.0, 2.2, or 2.4 engines that are alot faster than your average 3.0. Not to mention getting better gas mileage.
Just something to think about.

Also, vtec doesn't kick in until the higher rpms. In the low revs, there's no difference. The advantage comes in the higher rpms. When alot of engines peak, or even start to lose power, the vtec allows the engine to pull harder into the higher revs. Essentially giving you a much nicer top end, while leaving the bottom end alone. &nbsp;This is nice, but some of honda's vtec engines are kinda lacking in the lower rpms because they rely more on the high rpm power.
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The Nissan 240sx on the other hand, is know for is strong bottom end, delivering plenty of power in the low rpms.
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The 300zx is only available in TT trim or 2+2 seating. &nbsp;One or the other. &nbsp;I couldn't see driving around with friends bitching about small the back seat was, because I'd be all like, &quot;I sacrificed 70hp so you'd have anyplace at all to sit, so shuddup!&quot;

Yeah, I was all about gettin' a 300zx not too long ago. &nbsp;Then my mechanic said I'd never be happy with it, as they have the tendency to require constant maintance. &nbsp;He did say they didn't have major problems, but he knows how nit-picky I am, and I'd just be asking to do stuff constantly.

But, yeah, my point was you can't get a 2+2 TT, so keep that in mind if you're shopping.
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Hey guys wassup, that's my gurlfriend LMAO i kinda think of her as my own S13grl only not as educated yet :-P .... although very eager to learn as u can tell. Neway, she's looking for a new car and can't make up her mind lol she changes it every day. She thinks she's goin to get a Supra ......... LMAO but i don't think it's gonna happen but #### would be sweet if she did :-P. I think she should get a 300zx or a new celica GT-S..... lol o and sorry about all the newbie questions i think i explained most of it to her tonight but thanks for accomodating her. :-)
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