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suhster85 · 02-05-2004, 03:10 AM

Do both S14 sr20det's have VVTi? or is it just the blacktop?

Also I was told that it would be harder to swap an sr20det into an s14 for some reason but I thought that it was easier to swap the motor into an S14. I was told about 2700 for full swap(S13 front clip and install) into an S13 chassis. When I bought my car I ended up buying an S14 and now I am told that it will be around 3200 for the swap(S13 front clip and install) because the swap is a little bit harder in an S14(more labor)?

97DubTruck · 02-05-2004, 04:22 PM

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PANDA · 02-05-2004, 04:26 PM

even $3200 is still a pretty good deal...

and as far as i know both zenki and kouki s14 SR20DETs came with a black valve cover...could be wrong of course...but i thought it was only the s13's that had red and then black...

look for the angled rear of the valve cover...i believe this denotes VVT..

Kid Zelda · 02-05-2004, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suhster85

Do both S14 sr20det's have VVTi? or is it just the blacktop?

Also I was told that it would be harder to swap an sr20det into an s14 for some reason but I thought that it was easier to swap the motor into an S14. I was told about 2700 for full swap(S13 front clip and install) into an S13 chassis. When I bought my car I ended up buying an S14 and now I am told that it will be around 3200 for the swap(S13 front clip and install) because the swap is a little bit harder in an S14(more labor)?

S14 SR20DET's are all black tops, all have VVT.
It will be more $ becuase there is a little more labor and tidious work then an
S13 car with S13 SR.

suhster85 · 02-05-2004, 06:16 PM

thanks for the help guys...those prices are somewhat hooked up prices...and since I have an S14 I'm looking to try and get the blacktop from the S14 in there but dunno if I will have enough money...how much does that swap typically cost? thanks

Kid Zelda · 02-05-2004, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suhster85

thanks for the help guys...those prices are somewhat hooked up prices...and since I have an S14 I'm looking to try and get the blacktop from the S14 in there but dunno if I will have enough money...how much does that swap typically cost? thanks

Depending on shop, 1300-1600 ..

*fliprayzin240sx* · 02-05-2004, 07:01 PM

It all depends on the clip. I havent checked lately but S14 clips will run you roughly $3k and another $1k-1.5k for install depending on where you get it. If you only have an engine set...the easiest way to say if its a S13 or S14 blacktop is the notch on the rear of the valve cover...if it has it...its a S14 *notchtop*. The reason why it cost more to swap a S13 SR into a S14 is because the wiring is a tad bit different==a bit more work.

wylin · 02-05-2004, 08:34 PM

s14 sr looks like this

http://i.xanga.com/wylin/leftsideshot1_1208.jpg

suhster85 · 02-05-2004, 10:16 PM

thanks alot guys.

suhster85 · 02-05-2004, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

It all depends on the clip. I havent checked lately but S14 clips will run you roughly $3k and another $1k-1.5k for install depending on where you get it. If you only have an engine set...the easiest way to say if its a S13 or S14 blacktop is the notch on the rear of the valve cover...if it has it...its a S14 *notchtop*. The reason why it cost more to swap a S13 SR into a S14 is because the wiring is a tad bit different==a bit more work.

Do you know anywhere that sells the S14 clip for 3G? the cheapest I saw...well the only place that I saw them selling the front clip online was 3300plus shipping here
Also...does anyone know how much more work is involved with swapping the car from auto to manual when doing the engine swap?

AadosX · 02-06-2004, 12:12 AM

I paid $2550 for my S13 engine and $700 to get it installed into my S14.

suhster85 · 02-06-2004, 01:35 AM

thanks alot...does anyone know how much more work is involved with swapping the car from auto to manual when doing the engine swap?

AadosX · 02-06-2004, 01:43 AM

I paid $300 for labor and extra parts (new, from Nissan).

AadosX · 02-06-2004, 01:47 AM

Oh yeah, try www.jarcoinc.com for engines. I think they may be a little pricey, but they actually drive the car before they take the engine out... and make sure it runs well. And don't go by what's on their inventory page... call them up and talk to them.

suhster85 · 02-06-2004, 02:14 AM

thanks alot...was that 300 dollars for parts and labor part of the 3250 that you paid for your swap or additional? also what shop did the labor for the conversion? and how good was the work?

AadosX · 02-06-2004, 02:19 AM

Additional. So it was $3550 in all. But... I got a really good deal. No hookups, nothing, so I don't really get why I got such a good deal. From what I've read/learned... here's what you're looking at. $2800-3200 for a motorset or clip, anywhere from $800-1200 for the labor for the engine swap, and almost always an extra $500 for an auto to manual conversion. Where are you located? I know of a few places. I got mine done at Augusta Performance... Augusta, GA. I know of a place in Tampa, FL too, called XAT performance or something like that. And there are a few good places on the East Coast as well. Obviously if you're in Cali, there are tons of shops... but it seems to cost more there too because of the high demand. I hope this info helps.

AadosX · 02-06-2004, 02:28 AM

This site will give you some good info on prices, etc. They do swaps too.

http://www.xatracing.com/xatracingpa...artsindex.html

Also, another shop in Atlanta, GA, is Battlegrounds Engineering... I forgot the website tho.

Here's another place in South Carolina: http://www.jkmsports.com/index.htm

suhster85 · 02-06-2004, 02:34 AM

thanks man

suhster85 · 02-06-2004, 02:35 AM

unfortunately im in cali so I cant utilize the GA shops

02-05-2004, 03:10 AM	#1
suhster85 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: LA, CA Age: 40 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S14 sr20det questions Do both S14 sr20det's have VVTi? or is it just the blacktop? Also I was told that it would be harder to swap an sr20det into an s14 for some reason but I thought that it was easier to swap the motor into an S14. I was told about 2700 for full swap(S13 front clip and install) into an S13 chassis. When I bought my car I ended up buying an S14 and now I am told that it will be around 3200 for the swap(S13 front clip and install) because the swap is a little bit harder in an S14(more labor)?

02-05-2004, 07:01 PM	#7
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	It all depends on the clip. I havent checked lately but S14 clips will run you roughly $3k and another $1k-1.5k for install depending on where you get it. If you only have an engine set...the easiest way to say if its a S13 or S14 blacktop is the notch on the rear of the valve cover...if it has it...its a S14 notchtop. The reason why it cost more to swap a S13 SR into a S14 is because the wiring is a tad bit different==a bit more work. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

02-05-2004, 08:34 PM	#8
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02-05-2004, 04:22 PM	#2
97DubTruck Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: location, location Posts: 532 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tech talk and search = more responses.

02-05-2004, 04:26 PM	#3
PANDA BANNED Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: in a cave Posts: 149 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	even $3200 is still a pretty good deal... and as far as i know both zenki and kouki s14 SR20DETs came with a black valve cover...could be wrong of course...but i thought it was only the s13's that had red and then black... look for the angled rear of the valve cover...i believe this denotes VVT..

02-05-2004, 06:16 PM	#5
suhster85 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: LA, CA Age: 40 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks for the help guys...those prices are somewhat hooked up prices...and since I have an S14 I'm looking to try and get the blacktop from the S14 in there but dunno if I will have enough money...how much does that swap typically cost? thanks

02-05-2004, 10:16 PM	#9
suhster85 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: LA, CA Age: 40 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks alot guys.

02-06-2004, 12:12 AM	#11
AadosX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Auburn University Posts: 959 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I paid $2550 for my S13 engine and $700 to get it installed into my S14.

02-06-2004, 01:35 AM	#12
suhster85 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: LA, CA Age: 40 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks alot...does anyone know how much more work is involved with swapping the car from auto to manual when doing the engine swap?

02-06-2004, 01:43 AM	#13
AadosX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Auburn University Posts: 959 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I paid $300 for labor and extra parts (new, from Nissan).

02-06-2004, 01:47 AM	#14
AadosX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Auburn University Posts: 959 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh yeah, try www.jarcoinc.com for engines. I think they may be a little pricey, but they actually drive the car before they take the engine out... and make sure it runs well. And don't go by what's on their inventory page... call them up and talk to them.

02-06-2004, 02:14 AM	#15
suhster85 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: LA, CA Age: 40 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks alot...was that 300 dollars for parts and labor part of the 3250 that you paid for your swap or additional? also what shop did the labor for the conversion? and how good was the work?

02-06-2004, 02:19 AM	#16
AadosX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Auburn University Posts: 959 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Additional. So it was $3550 in all. But... I got a really good deal. No hookups, nothing, so I don't really get why I got such a good deal. From what I've read/learned... here's what you're looking at. $2800-3200 for a motorset or clip, anywhere from $800-1200 for the labor for the engine swap, and almost always an extra $500 for an auto to manual conversion. Where are you located? I know of a few places. I got mine done at Augusta Performance... Augusta, GA. I know of a place in Tampa, FL too, called XAT performance or something like that. And there are a few good places on the East Coast as well. Obviously if you're in Cali, there are tons of shops... but it seems to cost more there too because of the high demand. I hope this info helps.

02-06-2004, 02:28 AM	#17
AadosX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Auburn University Posts: 959 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This site will give you some good info on prices, etc. They do swaps too. http://www.xatracing.com/xatracingpa...artsindex.html Also, another shop in Atlanta, GA, is Battlegrounds Engineering... I forgot the website tho. Here's another place in South Carolina: http://www.jkmsports.com/index.htm

02-06-2004, 02:34 AM	#18
suhster85 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: LA, CA Age: 40 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks man

02-06-2004, 02:35 AM	#19
suhster85 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: LA, CA Age: 40 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	unfortunately im in cali so I cant utilize the GA shops