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AlligatorBling · 02-15-2004, 09:02 PM

im almost to pissed to even write this post... im sure you can figure out why. im moving to a warm sunny state far south of va. where rwd cars are loved and welcome. dam*it

mike13 · 02-15-2004, 09:08 PM

i noticed that everyone bitching about snow sucks at driving and doesnt have snow tires.

s14falcon · 02-15-2004, 09:12 PM

its funny, i watched the weatther the other day, and the entire countryt is cold except for here, like south florida is in the mid 70's and everywerhe else is in the 50's or less. its nice, good drivin weather, roll down the windows and cruise.

AlligatorBling · 02-15-2004, 09:29 PM

i worked a double today, didn't get off until 8pm, so much snow had built up that SUVS were doing 20mph on the highway, the scarpers hadn't even gone though it hit us so quick. i live on a back road. i made it for over 25 miles cutting the wheel one way then violently counter steering to keep control. i ran out of luck on my road. my road, never mind, no matter how much i complain, it will only attract more post that argue. whatever man. i hate the snow.

Rennen · 02-15-2004, 09:30 PM

I LOVE the snow.

Winter is the time of year when my car actually has enough power to throttle oversteer. Donuts and snowdrifts are the best finals study break ever. Oh, and I love how 90% of the people grew up here and have driven in the snow every year, but still suck so bad at it. They all go 15mph on every road, and lose all momentum to make it up hills, so funny.

I drive this on bald all seasons, and I find my complete lack of grip predictable and comforting. The fun far outweighs the bad of getting stuck.

-Matt

matlock · 02-15-2004, 10:42 PM

I have a pretty good time in the snow and my tires are terrible, it just takes a little getting used to. I also have a Blazer for those really bad days so I can just toss it in 4WD and go, but most of the time the 240 does the job....it sucks you hate the snow man and it sounds like something bad may have happend sorry to hear that.

AlligatorBling · 02-15-2004, 10:58 PM

yeah today was one of those really bad days... like i said, 4x4s were going slow on the highway, i myself even thought "man come on you can go a little faster ect ect..." then i hit my back road that i live on... anymore back and it would be dirt. i dont think my road exist to the DOT ... i dont know man, im just venting. and the rest of the story... about 3 miles from my house im doing great in the snow thinking to myself, man the 240s doing great in this mess, ill be home as soon as can be... no sooner than i thought that to myslef i find my self conter steering thinking yeah ive got this, and i get off the pavement just a tad. a tad souldnt matter, unless its on a very steep enbankment. i call my dad who has a 4x4 nissan pickup, we try to pull it out and it ended up in me slinding more down the bank the way my car was sitting... if we tired anymore i would have to risk it sliding the rear end of the car more down the bank.. (not good. rwd car on a steep bank with its back tires at the bottom of the hill covered in snow.) so i had to call a wrecker to pull me out with a wench. yeah, for me winter sucks.

Kreator · 02-16-2004, 07:47 AM

get snow tires and stop whining. 4x4s are not that much of an example, every time it snows overhere, i fly by them like they are rwd and i'm awd.

I too hate snow, but for the exactly opposite reason: too many dumbfucks taking up all the lanes going 15mph cuz they think its the end of the world. seems like noone ever heard of winter tires...

KiDyNomiTe · 02-16-2004, 12:02 PM

Ya quit whining. I live in Chicago. I have snow tires but rode on Azenis (2 of em bald) for about a week and survived. If you can't figure out when your rear end jumps loose then you need to relearn how to drive.

There are tons of people in 240s, miatas, various rwd domestics, that drive in snow and don't have problems, most of my friends w/ 240s don't have snow tires and they do just fine, snow tires just make it even funner when you go mess around (higher speeds).

Now if you got a 2way then its gonna be a big pain, but most of my friends still survive, just practice, you'll tend to slide around a lot, but don't keep pushing it and you won't spin out. And if you dont have ABS extend your braking distance by a lot.

VEX240 · 02-16-2004, 02:23 PM

Yeah I live in Wisconsin. I have a love hate relationship with the snow. Being originally from Louisiana, I am used to the warm and hate the cold, snow, slush, salt shit. However I LOVE driving in the snow, since my car is stock and doesnt have much power yet I can slide it around corners do dounuts and shit and have fun. When it snows me and my friends go out all night finding any twisty road or parking lot we can.

DuffMan · 02-16-2004, 02:31 PM

According to your sig you have vlsd and abs. NO EXCUSE!

Think about this, until the mid 90's all volvos were rwd. And Sweden has tons of snow. You can do fine in snow with rwd, you just have to be carefull.

AlligatorBling · 02-16-2004, 03:10 PM

i give up. there is no sympathy in this world, or understanding.

brokenben · 02-16-2004, 03:25 PM

yay for sunny san diego.

AlligatorBling · 02-16-2004, 03:38 PM

my first cousin lives in san diego, beautiful place... visited once, had the time of my life.

-E- · 02-16-2004, 04:36 PM

you might think im nuts but I actually miss the snow

Since I moved to Fla all I have to worry about is end of the world rain showers.

*crioten* · 02-16-2004, 04:52 PM

snow is completely kick ass until something happens, and usually its pretty bad...

empty parking lots are sweet when they have less than an inch of snow, otherwise there isnt enough grip to actually do anything...man its been awhile since ive hit a parking lot

-glen

aznpoopy · 02-17-2004, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlligatorBling

i give up. there is no sympathy in this world, or understanding.

i feel for ya man. sucks that ur car went off road. but look at it this way... we're all just trying to inspire you to go practice and improve as a driver. good luck to ya for the remainder of the winter.

AlligatorBling · 02-17-2004, 03:35 PM

at last, a positive voice...

and hell no im not taking my 240 back in the snow to practace driving, give me pavment, not snow... i understand the physics and handeling of driving the the snow... i take my rwd sport fourwheeler in the snow all the time, doing power slides and going at insane speeds and what not, however.. ive never seen an autocross or road race in the snow (ok im sure some smart ass is going to bring up some form of racing where sports cars go in the snow ::shakes head:

... anyway back on topic of my off topic chat... that was 50 bucks i could have enjoyed a lot more than watching somebody pull my car out of the snow with a wench.... when i see snow clouds im in the old nissan truck, the carb powerd 2.4 eight valve beast lol.... well atleast its 4x4

Rennen · 02-17-2004, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlligatorBling

ive never seen an autocross or road race in the snow (ok im sure some smart ass is going to bring up some form of racing where sports cars go in the snow ::shakes head:

umm...

WRC

Frozen lake Ice racing: http://www.w-a-g.org/

Many regions have autocrosses in the snow: http://www.trillium-bmwclub.ca/Trill...256c9f006795d7

racing in the snow is no different than racing on concrete, just less grip

all racing techniques still apply, its just that your mistakes are over exaggerated as you have found.

-Smartass

AlligatorBling · 02-17-2004, 06:07 PM

ok i asked for that, but i still say, for a car give me pavement... if i crash its big $$$, on my yamaha warrior i can just flip it back over and keep gettin it, and the most that would get messed on (on the quad that is) is more than likely bent bars.... im beginning to see why my girlfriend hates to argue with me... i just dont stop, its like im a compulsive arguer... and i still dont like snow. you have go go outside, warm your car up, get the door unstuck, scrape the windows, and so many other things....

also... question... how many rwd cars race in the snow at high speeds...

aznpoopy · 02-17-2004, 07:39 PM

rwd rally cars? can't really think of one off the top of my head. however you're not doing 80mph sliding into a hairpin on ice. u just wanna get from pA to pB. i KNOW you can do this... back in the day EVERYONE used to drive 5 (or 4?) spd RWD cars. skill isn't an issue ... just practice. just get snow tires and ull be fine. take it nice and slow. be one of those a-holes driving 5 mph on a highway in snow. who cares as long as you're safe. nobody owns the road.

Kreator · 02-18-2004, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlligatorBling

also... question... how many rwd cars race in the snow at high speeds...

to name a few

KiDyNomiTe · 02-18-2004, 12:55 PM

I am going ice racing this weekends, should be hella fun. Just practice, don't run from it, you are lucky to have 2 cars, keep it that way and don't be stuck not drivign anything when the truck breaks because you never learnt how to drive in the snow.

I now can't drive FFs in snow/ice situations, not used to understeering in low traction situations anymore.

Find a lot/warehouse with your truck, then practice in your car, it'll be worth it, don't handicap yourself.

And I don't think we are jumping on you, we just think you shouldn't give up, or move becuase you refuse to practice in the snow, you aren't the only one who drives RWD cars.

DuffMan · 02-19-2004, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aznpoopy

rwd rally cars? can't really think of one off the top of my head. however you're not doing 80mph sliding into a hairpin on ice. u just wanna get from pA to pB. i KNOW you can do this... back in the day EVERYONE used to drive 5 (or 4?) spd RWD cars. skill isn't an issue ... just practice. just get snow tires and ull be fine. take it nice and slow. be one of those a-holes driving 5 mph on a highway in snow. who cares as long as you're safe. nobody owns the road.

Renault Turbo 5

brianglawson · 02-19-2004, 04:34 AM

they had rally datsun 510's, datsun 240z's, 1st gen rx-7's, 70's skyline's, and those are all rwd

AlligatorBling · 02-19-2004, 04:57 AM

you know what.... last night i parked my 240 in the garage to fix the rear mudguard from where the chain pulled it out of place when we trired to pull it the first time... after i did that i decided to check the air pressure in my tires... front ones were good... but in the back i had 14 lbs in the rear drivers side, and 32 in the rear passanger side...

MorganS13 · 02-19-2004, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14falcon

its funny, i watched the weatther the other day, and the entire countryt is cold except for here, like south florida is in the mid 70's and everywerhe else is in the 50's or less. its nice, good drivin weather, roll down the windows and cruise.

50's isn't cold you wuss!

aznpoopy · 02-19-2004, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorganS13

50's isn't cold you wuss!

lol... hell yeah... it's been about 10 - 15 degrees everyday for the past 2 months here in New York City. cold for us but there are places much colder i'm sure. when it hits 40 degrees people start wearing short sleeves. today its supposed to hit 45 and we're all excited here and stuffs :P

alligatorbling: yah that would do it. see, i knew u could hack the snow... i wonder how long u've been driving around like that :P

BiluMaster K's · 02-19-2004, 12:04 PM

slow snow driving is pretty much the best stage for testing your turn-in and wheel placement, but highway snowdriving is fukin scary! I drive in the snow at night around 2am when noone is out...ooooh yeahhhh......Hondas, hate on me, i like it!
-Ever notice how every WRX or EVO is not in the driveway when its snowing, and every 240 is parked??

02-15-2004, 09:02 PM	#1
AlligatorBling BANNED Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virgina Age: 43 Posts: 856 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I Hate Snow im almost to pissed to even write this post... im sure you can figure out why. im moving to a warm sunny state far south of va. where rwd cars are loved and welcome. dam*it

02-15-2004, 09:30 PM	#5
Rennen Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Stafford, VA Age: 42 Posts: 882 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Rennen Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I LOVE the snow. Winter is the time of year when my car actually has enough power to throttle oversteer. Donuts and snowdrifts are the best finals study break ever. Oh, and I love how 90% of the people grew up here and have driven in the snow every year, but still suck so bad at it. They all go 15mph on every road, and lose all momentum to make it up hills, so funny. I drive this on bald all seasons, and I find my complete lack of grip predictable and comforting. The fun far outweighs the bad of getting stuck. -Matt __________________ '89 Nissan 240SX fastback: #23 DSP/RallyMod2/Track Slut '95 BMW 540i 6 speed: Ultimate Commuting Machine PFM Racing www.solo2.org www.midwest240sx.com

02-15-2004, 10:58 PM	#7
AlligatorBling BANNED Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virgina Age: 43 Posts: 856 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah today was one of those really bad days... like i said, 4x4s were going slow on the highway, i myself even thought "man come on you can go a little faster ect ect..." then i hit my back road that i live on... anymore back and it would be dirt. i dont think my road exist to the DOT ... i dont know man, im just venting. and the rest of the story... about 3 miles from my house im doing great in the snow thinking to myself, man the 240s doing great in this mess, ill be home as soon as can be... no sooner than i thought that to myslef i find my self conter steering thinking yeah ive got this, and i get off the pavement just a tad. a tad souldnt matter, unless its on a very steep enbankment. i call my dad who has a 4x4 nissan pickup, we try to pull it out and it ended up in me slinding more down the bank the way my car was sitting... if we tired anymore i would have to risk it sliding the rear end of the car more down the bank.. (not good. rwd car on a steep bank with its back tires at the bottom of the hill covered in snow.) so i had to call a wrecker to pull me out with a wench. yeah, for me winter sucks. Last edited by AlligatorBling; 02-15-2004 at 11:25 PM..

02-16-2004, 07:47 AM	#8
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	get snow tires and stop whining. 4x4s are not that much of an example, every time it snows overhere, i fly by them like they are rwd and i'm awd. I too hate snow, but for the exactly opposite reason: too many dumbfucks taking up all the lanes going 15mph cuz they think its the end of the world. seems like noone ever heard of winter tires... __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

02-16-2004, 12:02 PM	#9
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 38 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ya quit whining. I live in Chicago. I have snow tires but rode on Azenis (2 of em bald) for about a week and survived. If you can't figure out when your rear end jumps loose then you need to relearn how to drive. There are tons of people in 240s, miatas, various rwd domestics, that drive in snow and don't have problems, most of my friends w/ 240s don't have snow tires and they do just fine, snow tires just make it even funner when you go mess around (higher speeds). Now if you got a 2way then its gonna be a big pain, but most of my friends still survive, just practice, you'll tend to slide around a lot, but don't keep pushing it and you won't spin out. And if you dont have ABS extend your braking distance by a lot. __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

02-15-2004, 09:08 PM	#2
mike13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 42 Posts: 691 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i noticed that everyone bitching about snow sucks at driving and doesnt have snow tires.

02-15-2004, 09:12 PM	#3
s14falcon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: south florida Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	its funny, i watched the weatther the other day, and the entire countryt is cold except for here, like south florida is in the mid 70's and everywerhe else is in the 50's or less. its nice, good drivin weather, roll down the windows and cruise.

02-15-2004, 09:29 PM	#4
AlligatorBling BANNED Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virgina Age: 43 Posts: 856 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i worked a double today, didn't get off until 8pm, so much snow had built up that SUVS were doing 20mph on the highway, the scarpers hadn't even gone though it hit us so quick. i live on a back road. i made it for over 25 miles cutting the wheel one way then violently counter steering to keep control. i ran out of luck on my road. my road, never mind, no matter how much i complain, it will only attract more post that argue. whatever man. i hate the snow.

02-15-2004, 10:42 PM	#6
matlock Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: California Age: 40 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a pretty good time in the snow and my tires are terrible, it just takes a little getting used to. I also have a Blazer for those really bad days so I can just toss it in 4WD and go, but most of the time the 240 does the job....it sucks you hate the snow man and it sounds like something bad may have happend sorry to hear that.

02-16-2004, 02:23 PM	#10
VEX240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Janesville, WI Age: 42 Posts: 96 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah I live in Wisconsin. I have a love hate relationship with the snow. Being originally from Louisiana, I am used to the warm and hate the cold, snow, slush, salt shit. However I LOVE driving in the snow, since my car is stock and doesnt have much power yet I can slide it around corners do dounuts and shit and have fun. When it snows me and my friends go out all night finding any twisty road or parking lot we can. __________________ "That'll Happen"

02-16-2004, 02:31 PM	#11
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	According to your sig you have vlsd and abs. NO EXCUSE! Think about this, until the mid 90's all volvos were rwd. And Sweden has tons of snow. You can do fine in snow with rwd, you just have to be carefull.

02-16-2004, 03:10 PM	#12
AlligatorBling BANNED Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virgina Age: 43 Posts: 856 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i give up. there is no sympathy in this world, or understanding.

02-16-2004, 03:25 PM	#13
brokenben Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco Age: 40 Posts: 718 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yay for sunny san diego.

02-16-2004, 03:38 PM	#14
AlligatorBling BANNED Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virgina Age: 43 Posts: 856 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my first cousin lives in san diego, beautiful place... visited once, had the time of my life.

02-16-2004, 04:36 PM	#15
-E- Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Florida, Americas Wang! Age: 43 Posts: 2,912 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you might think im nuts but I actually miss the snow Since I moved to Fla all I have to worry about is end of the world rain showers.

02-17-2004, 03:35 PM	#18
AlligatorBling BANNED Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virgina Age: 43 Posts: 856 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	at last, a positive voice... and hell no im not taking my 240 back in the snow to practace driving, give me pavment, not snow... i understand the physics and handeling of driving the the snow... i take my rwd sport fourwheeler in the snow all the time, doing power slides and going at insane speeds and what not, however.. ive never seen an autocross or road race in the snow (ok im sure some smart ass is going to bring up some form of racing where sports cars go in the snow ::shakes head:... anyway back on topic of my off topic chat... that was 50 bucks i could have enjoyed a lot more than watching somebody pull my car out of the snow with a wench.... when i see snow clouds im in the old nissan truck, the carb powerd 2.4 eight valve beast lol.... well atleast its 4x4

02-17-2004, 06:07 PM	#20
AlligatorBling BANNED Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virgina Age: 43 Posts: 856 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok i asked for that, but i still say, for a car give me pavement... if i crash its big $$$, on my yamaha warrior i can just flip it back over and keep gettin it, and the most that would get messed on (on the quad that is) is more than likely bent bars.... im beginning to see why my girlfriend hates to argue with me... i just dont stop, its like im a compulsive arguer... and i still dont like snow. you have go go outside, warm your car up, get the door unstuck, scrape the windows, and so many other things.... also... question... how many rwd cars race in the snow at high speeds...

02-17-2004, 07:39 PM	#21
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	rwd rally cars? can't really think of one off the top of my head. however you're not doing 80mph sliding into a hairpin on ice. u just wanna get from pA to pB. i KNOW you can do this... back in the day EVERYONE used to drive 5 (or 4?) spd RWD cars. skill isn't an issue ... just practice. just get snow tires and ull be fine. take it nice and slow. be one of those a-holes driving 5 mph on a highway in snow. who cares as long as you're safe. nobody owns the road.

02-18-2004, 12:55 PM	#23
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 38 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am going ice racing this weekends, should be hella fun. Just practice, don't run from it, you are lucky to have 2 cars, keep it that way and don't be stuck not drivign anything when the truck breaks because you never learnt how to drive in the snow. I now can't drive FFs in snow/ice situations, not used to understeering in low traction situations anymore. Find a lot/warehouse with your truck, then practice in your car, it'll be worth it, don't handicap yourself. And I don't think we are jumping on you, we just think you shouldn't give up, or move becuase you refuse to practice in the snow, you aren't the only one who drives RWD cars. __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

02-19-2004, 04:34 AM	#25
brianglawson Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA Age: 37 Posts: 1,912 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: brianglawson Feedback Score: 1 reviews	they had rally datsun 510's, datsun 240z's, 1st gen rx-7's, 70's skyline's, and those are all rwd __________________ S15 SR20DET Powered, Kouki S14 http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=578575

02-19-2004, 04:57 AM	#26
AlligatorBling BANNED Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virgina Age: 43 Posts: 856 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you know what.... last night i parked my 240 in the garage to fix the rear mudguard from where the chain pulled it out of place when we trired to pull it the first time... after i did that i decided to check the air pressure in my tires... front ones were good... but in the back i had 14 lbs in the rear drivers side, and 32 in the rear passanger side...

02-19-2004, 12:04 PM	#29
BiluMaster K's Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On tha Lee-Low Age: 44 Posts: 161 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	slow snow driving is pretty much the best stage for testing your turn-in and wheel placement, but highway snowdriving is fukin scary! I drive in the snow at night around 2am when noone is out...ooooh yeahhhh......Hondas, hate on me, i like it! -Ever notice how every WRX or EVO is not in the driveway when its snowing, and every 240 is parked??