Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Go Back   Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum > General > Tech Talk > Engine Tech

Engine Tech Technical discussion related to all relevant engines such as KA, SR, RB, CA, 2JZ , L24/26/28, VG, VQ, and LSx series.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-28-2012, 06:13 AM   #1
street_sleeper
Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Georgetown TX
Age: 41
Posts: 346
Trader Rating: (0)
street_sleeper is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Something went wrong in Cylinder #3

While I sit here in Kuwait I asked my friends to pull my head on my Redtop due to breaking a rocker arm and missing a shim before I left. The rocker arm is now the least of my worries. As you will see below that something went way wrong in there. I will be home in a few days to check it out but wanted to get the general public opinion.

I am not sure how deep the scaring is but my buddy said it was savable with a.040 bore. This is a fully built motor. Here is the specs

S13 Redtop
Bored .020 over
Eagle Rods
Weisco 9:1
Acl Bearings
Arp head and mains
BC 264's, valves, springs, retainers
Tomei RAS
Bullseye S259 13psi low and 18psi high
Xccessive Intake
ID 1000cc
Mazworx Top mount





Any Ideas?
street_sleeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-28-2012, 07:01 AM   #2
irax
Post Whore!
 
irax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Diego
Age: 41
Posts: 4,249
Trader Rating: (4)
irax is close to perfectionirax is close to perfectionirax is close to perfectionirax is close to perfectionirax is close to perfectionirax is close to perfectionirax is close to perfectionirax is close to perfectionirax is close to perfectionirax is close to perfectionirax is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 4 reviews
Send a message via AIM to irax
ring blew out ?
__________________
Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.
irax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2012, 10:37 AM   #3
street_sleeper
Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Georgetown TX
Age: 41
Posts: 346
Trader Rating: (0)
street_sleeper is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Not sure at the moment. I will be home in a day or so. When I get home I can pull the motor the rest of the way out and get everything torn down and get stuff inspected. My motor head guys here say the spark plug might have melted. I will know more here in a day or so.
street_sleeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2012, 10:52 AM   #4
rcdad123
Zilvia Addict
 
rcdad123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: san diego
Posts: 639
Trader Rating: (0)
rcdad123 is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
it seems like a ring wash to me due to too much fuel and washing away the oil off of the cylinder walls. why do you have 1000 cc injectors? is it on e85? look at all of the carbon build up, those are signs of a very rich condition. check the tune on the ecu before you start the engine again after the rebuild. also check your ignition system, can also be caused by excessive unburned fuel due to misfire. good luck.
rcdad123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 05:47 AM   #5
TheWolf
Zilvia FREAK!
 
TheWolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Orange Park, FL (Jax)
Posts: 1,468
Trader Rating: (0)
TheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant future
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I can not tell if a piece of the piston is missing in the shadow but you've scuffed a piston. That hole will need to be bored and piston replaced. The damage is from metal bits bouncing around in there. Either from intake (metal washers flying into cylinder) or from internal breakage (piston melting)

That cylinder was very very hot.
__________________
Eye on the Prize
TheWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012, 08:46 PM   #6
street_sleeper
Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Georgetown TX
Age: 41
Posts: 346
Trader Rating: (0)
street_sleeper is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I went with 1000cc in hopes of going E85. Right now it's on pump gas Shell 93. I have been running rich and just never had the time to fit into the tuners schedule. Plus I work overseas and am only home from time to time so I may not catch certain things that daily drives catch. I knew I was running a tad bit more than normal but not that bad. I will have the motor out on Sunday and tear it all down. Thanks for the info and I will ask Mazworx what the think. I am sending my block and head to get worked by them.
street_sleeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2012, 09:22 PM   #7
brndck
Premium Member
 
brndck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: torrance, ca
Age: 43
Posts: 12,686
Trader Rating: (130)
brndck is close to perfectionbrndck is close to perfectionbrndck is close to perfectionbrndck is close to perfectionbrndck is close to perfectionbrndck is close to perfectionbrndck is close to perfectionbrndck is close to perfectionbrndck is close to perfectionbrndck is close to perfectionbrndck is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 130 reviews
Send a message via AIM to brndck
that looks like you had a chunk of metal bouncing around in there. did the electrode from your spark plug come loose? also check your throttle body, the screws in the throttle plate likes to come loose and get sucked in.

that cylinder definitely needs to be bored and the piston replaced. if you were already .020 over .040 is about as far as you can bore an sr block before you need to look into sleeves, iirc.
__________________

http://outslidersandsmokeproduce.blogspot.com/
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mannykiller View Post
it'll fit JANK.. and no one likes Jank except Broke ass zilvians.
brndck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 11:12 AM   #8
street_sleeper
Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Georgetown TX
Age: 41
Posts: 346
Trader Rating: (0)
street_sleeper is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Yeah I am going with sleeves and then dropping in JE pistons. Not sure on what size piston right now. Probably 87mm so the sleeve will be bored to .040 over. I will take a look at the TB. It deff looks like something got sucked in a bounced around.
street_sleeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 01:15 AM   #9
street_sleeper
Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Georgetown TX
Age: 41
Posts: 346
Trader Rating: (0)
street_sleeper is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Turns out a spun a main bearing and pieces of it made its way up the cylinder wall and that is what caused the grooves and the dents. Now I am a little concerned about my turbo as that is the only way those bits of metal could have escaped. Pics to come.
street_sleeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 09:35 AM   #10
TheWolf
Zilvia FREAK!
 
TheWolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Orange Park, FL (Jax)
Posts: 1,468
Trader Rating: (0)
TheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant futureTheWolf has a brilliant future
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by street_sleeper View Post
Turns out a spun a main bearing and pieces of it made its way up the cylinder wall and that is what caused the grooves and the dents. Now I am a little concerned about my turbo as that is the only way those bits of metal could have escaped. Pics to come.
Bullshit
__________________
Eye on the Prize
TheWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 08:26 PM   #11
Matt191
Leaky Injector
 
Matt191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sheridan, Wyoming
Age: 32
Posts: 99
Trader Rating: (0)
Matt191 is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Brings me back to the days of working on a snowmobile, damn things loose rings all the time. Had a buddy spin a bearing and do the same thing only on a dsm
Matt191 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vB.Sponsors
Copyright ? 1998 - 2022, Zilvia.net