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TheSnail · 04-02-2004, 12:37 AM

I am about to get the Auto Power roll cage and I am wondering who all makes roll cages for 240sx's? I have done a year of reserch and I know Cusco and East Bear make them, but I dont know where to buy them or how much they cost. Are the any other's ?

SW20Racer · 04-02-2004, 12:38 AM

have one custom made it'll probably be cheaper(it was for me anyway)

Zemus · 04-02-2004, 06:04 AM

Autopower 4 point 6 point
Saftey 21 4 point (Which I have and is very HQ) you can get it at tougefactory, get ppl, get fast shipping, great service. Ill post pics once its all bolted in :-D.

nightwalker · 04-02-2004, 11:22 AM

check them out ArtMorrison...
http://www.google.com/catalogs?hl=en...519&catpage=38

anyone use their stuff??? Pretty good prices, even for chrome moly, I'm thinking about the 8 point roll bar/cage.

andrave · 04-02-2004, 11:33 AM

This guy's pricing seemed ok.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEBWA%3AIT

Var · 04-02-2004, 11:40 AM

i got an autopower 6 point bolt in cage. If i were to do it over, i would DEFINITELY!!!! get a custom cage. What i would do is go to a raceshop and have them build me an 8 or 10 point cage with certification for track use. Even though i will probably only drift my car and not road race it i would want the mounting points to be somewhere better than the fuckin floorboard. Ya know?

TheSnail · 04-02-2004, 12:14 PM

Wholly crap, there thats alot of diff rollcages. Now I will have to decide between ArtMorisson,Ebay one and Autopower. Quick question, Whats the pupous of having window nets? Getting thrown out the car?

SW20Racer · 04-02-2004, 12:42 PM

like if the car were to roll it would keep ur body parts inside the car so ur arm/head wouldnt be flailing about and be rolled under the car when it flipt

Zemus · 04-02-2004, 12:56 PM

Yea, I got Saftey 21 Cuz its easy to get in and out, and if I ever want to upgrade it will be easy

element240 · 04-02-2004, 12:58 PM

who makes one for an s14 w/ sunroof?

Steeles · 04-02-2004, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by element240

who makes one for an s14 w/ sunroof?

autopower's should be out soon. search on Freshalloy about it. Chris from speedalliance testfitted the prototype and said it should be out soon.

I THINK the safety 21 cages will fit but not 100% sure

Zemus · 04-02-2004, 01:41 PM

Nope, saftey dont clear sunroofs, or atleast thats what T-F says. TF's are a HELL of a deal, 3 day shipping, Just awesome

Legacy · 04-02-2004, 02:35 PM

I have a 4pt autopower. Fitment is good. I'm happy with it. Cusco/Safety wont fit a USDM S13 w/o stripping out the interior panels. Autopower is supposed to be SCCA legal, I can't remember for sure right off the bat, but I know Cusco/Safety wasn't when I bought my rollbar.

Oh, the black paint that comes on the rollbar... crap. Might just wanna buy silver and have it coated.

blu808 · 04-02-2004, 02:47 PM

I would go with a Cusco if its a daily driver. They do clear all the interior pieces its just a tight fit. Out of all the cages i have ever had (border, Auto power, custom, cusco) I would reccomend the cusco. It is cheap, light, and doesnt get in the way. If you have the money though get a custom one. (not a universal custom one tho.)

andrave · 04-02-2004, 04:45 PM

cusco isn't certified tho... the description says "chassis stiffening" not roll over"
DG trials is having a group buy on autopower roll bars and cages.
http://www.dgtrials.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=156

nightwalker · 04-02-2004, 05:31 PM

a quick question, if one were to have a custom one built, how would one go about getting a 6 point and still keep the factory door panels, while not having it go above the driver's head?? (street legality and safety)

Var · 04-02-2004, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrave

cusco isn't certified tho... the description says "chassis stiffening" not roll over"
DG trials is having a group buy on autopower roll bars and cages.
http://www.dgtrials.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=156

auopower is only legal for stock showroom class (gay) racing. In reality it's just as good as the cusco but it's heavier. It's all about the way you mount it. If you mount it to your floorboard like normal it may not be legal in the class you want to race in . Just be careful before you spend money on it.

mastalee · 04-03-2004, 03:24 AM

Do know know much about rollcages, but can one be made to be legit and not prohibit someone from sitting in your rear seats?

I know a car with 4-5 passengers and a roll cage sounds wierd, but I just wanted to know because I do not know.

andrave · 04-04-2004, 05:44 PM

autopower has options where you can can unbolt the cross sections, which makes the bar a lot less sturdy and takes way most of the chassis stiffening effect.
And I would hate to put someone in the back seat with all that steel tubing... if you had an accident they could gank their head off it.

old_s13 · 04-04-2004, 06:46 PM

the removeable braces do not make the chassis significantly stiffer -- the bar itself makes the chassis stiff. i've never noticed a difference with the cross and mid bars on, i simply use the mid bar because i wanted something to loop my harnesses over.

as for roll bars and roll cages, you should basically kiss your rear seats goodbye if you go this route. i did.. and i have no problems NOT driving people around.

its called being selfish

andrave · 04-04-2004, 07:09 PM

no, I meant that having clevices instead of welds just makes the whole bar less rigid than if it was welded.

old_s13 · 04-04-2004, 07:36 PM

again, i dont think it makes much of a difference. i've cut the entire body of a 240sx in half, if you are worrying about the bolt-on or removeable parts of a rollbar/cage.. you should look at the chassis and realize that there really isnt much "solidity" to any part of the chassis except for the front cross member and rear sub-frame. everything else on the car is crap sheet metal.

- mike

04-02-2004, 12:37 AM	#1
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Roll cage Options I am about to get the Auto Power roll cage and I am wondering who all makes roll cages for 240sx's? I have done a year of reserch and I know Cusco and East Bear make them, but I dont know where to buy them or how much they cost. Are the any other's ?

04-02-2004, 06:04 AM	#3
Zemus Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minneapols Age: 40 Posts: 2,268 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Zemus Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Autopower 4 point 6 point Saftey 21 4 point (Which I have and is very HQ) you can get it at tougefactory, get ppl, get fast shipping, great service. Ill post pics once its all bolted in :-D. __________________ \|Ziptied.com\|Hybrid Z\|D-Town Forum\|Clubfr.net\|

04-02-2004, 11:22 AM	#4
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 46 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	check them out ArtMorrison... http://www.google.com/catalogs?hl=en...519&catpage=38 anyone use their stuff??? Pretty good prices, even for chrome moly, I'm thinking about the 8 point roll bar/cage. __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

04-02-2004, 11:40 AM	#6
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 43 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got an autopower 6 point bolt in cage. If i were to do it over, i would DEFINITELY!!!! get a custom cage. What i would do is go to a raceshop and have them build me an 8 or 10 point cage with certification for track use. Even though i will probably only drift my car and not road race it i would want the mounting points to be somewhere better than the fuckin floorboard. Ya know? __________________ Hi

04-02-2004, 12:56 PM	#9
Zemus Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minneapols Age: 40 Posts: 2,268 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Zemus Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yea, I got Saftey 21 Cuz its easy to get in and out, and if I ever want to upgrade it will be easy __________________ \|Ziptied.com\|Hybrid Z\|D-Town Forum\|Clubfr.net\|

04-02-2004, 12:38 AM	#2
SW20Racer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaumont Age: 40 Posts: 1,633 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	have one custom made it'll probably be cheaper(it was for me anyway)

04-02-2004, 11:33 AM	#5
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This guy's pricing seemed ok. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEBWA%3AIT

04-02-2004, 12:14 PM	#7
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wholly crap, there thats alot of diff rollcages. Now I will have to decide between ArtMorisson,Ebay one and Autopower. Quick question, Whats the pupous of having window nets? Getting thrown out the car?

04-02-2004, 12:42 PM	#8
SW20Racer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaumont Age: 40 Posts: 1,633 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	like if the car were to roll it would keep ur body parts inside the car so ur arm/head wouldnt be flailing about and be rolled under the car when it flipt

04-02-2004, 12:58 PM	#10
element240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MI Age: 39 Posts: 735 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	who makes one for an s14 w/ sunroof?

04-02-2004, 01:41 PM	#12
Zemus Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minneapols Age: 40 Posts: 2,268 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Zemus Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nope, saftey dont clear sunroofs, or atleast thats what T-F says. TF's are a HELL of a deal, 3 day shipping, Just awesome __________________ \|Ziptied.com\|Hybrid Z\|D-Town Forum\|Clubfr.net\|

04-02-2004, 02:35 PM	#13
Legacy Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hacienda Heights, CA Posts: 193 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a 4pt autopower. Fitment is good. I'm happy with it. Cusco/Safety wont fit a USDM S13 w/o stripping out the interior panels. Autopower is supposed to be SCCA legal, I can't remember for sure right off the bat, but I know Cusco/Safety wasn't when I bought my rollbar. Oh, the black paint that comes on the rollbar... crap. Might just wanna buy silver and have it coated. __________________

04-02-2004, 02:47 PM	#14
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 42 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I would go with a Cusco if its a daily driver. They do clear all the interior pieces its just a tight fit. Out of all the cages i have ever had (border, Auto power, custom, cusco) I would reccomend the cusco. It is cheap, light, and doesnt get in the way. If you have the money though get a custom one. (not a universal custom one tho.) __________________

04-02-2004, 04:45 PM	#15
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	cusco isn't certified tho... the description says "chassis stiffening" not roll over" DG trials is having a group buy on autopower roll bars and cages. http://www.dgtrials.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=156

04-02-2004, 05:31 PM	#16
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 46 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	a quick question, if one were to have a custom one built, how would one go about getting a 6 point and still keep the factory door panels, while not having it go above the driver's head?? (street legality and safety) __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

04-03-2004, 03:24 AM	#18
mastalee Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 63 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do know know much about rollcages, but can one be made to be legit and not prohibit someone from sitting in your rear seats? I know a car with 4-5 passengers and a roll cage sounds wierd, but I just wanted to know because I do not know. __________________ Just out of college and trying to have fun.

04-04-2004, 05:44 PM	#19
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	autopower has options where you can can unbolt the cross sections, which makes the bar a lot less sturdy and takes way most of the chassis stiffening effect. And I would hate to put someone in the back seat with all that steel tubing... if you had an accident they could gank their head off it.

04-04-2004, 06:46 PM	#20
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the removeable braces do not make the chassis significantly stiffer -- the bar itself makes the chassis stiff. i've never noticed a difference with the cross and mid bars on, i simply use the mid bar because i wanted something to loop my harnesses over. as for roll bars and roll cages, you should basically kiss your rear seats goodbye if you go this route. i did.. and i have no problems NOT driving people around. its called being selfish

04-04-2004, 07:09 PM	#21
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no, I meant that having clevices instead of welds just makes the whole bar less rigid than if it was welded.

04-04-2004, 07:36 PM	#22
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	again, i dont think it makes much of a difference. i've cut the entire body of a 240sx in half, if you are worrying about the bolt-on or removeable parts of a rollbar/cage.. you should look at the chassis and realize that there really isnt much "solidity" to any part of the chassis except for the front cross member and rear sub-frame. everything else on the car is crap sheet metal. - mike