positive camber...

[Bacon_Fish]

a week ago i hit a "trench" in the road.
destroyed my right front coilover..bent shaft..got a new one.
put wheel on..still camber.
adjusted camber plate..still pos. camber.
then,ball joint looks bent.
control arm isn't bent,but,is there anything else that would
cause thise excessive amount of camber?
help meee,please(:

[jr_ss]

Your control arm is bent and/or the bolt and crossmember are fucked up.

[Bacon_Fish]

i checked,everything is good.
i did find the problem.
my guy that got my coilover,gave me one that has the bottom
for a the left side..so the bottom that mounts to the spindle is wrong..its a left not a right.
therefor causing the hub to be off,causing my wheel to stand the opposite way.

[xoxide]

^Lower mounts on front coilovers arent directional. Left and right doesnt matter.

[Bacon_Fish]

if i flipped this one over it would put the brake line bracket on the opposite side.

[jr_ss]

It doesn't matter though because other than the brake line bracket they are identical. I'm telling you right now that your lower control arm is bent. Pull it off and set it on a flat surface. If it doesn't sit flat, it's bent. I had a similar issue, you can't visually tell if it's bent or not.

[vehicle336]

I'd recommend taking the time and money and having the whole car re-aligned. Who knows what else has been knocked out of spec or wasn't in spec to begin with.

[Bacon_Fish]

i measured the control arm and measured an old one,they were the same,but i will take it off and check;
if they're identical,how would it work if i flipped it over? the bracket ends up on the other side from the brake line.

[Bacon_Fish]

before the coilover got bent,everything was to spec,everything aligned

[jr_ss]

You're not getting what I'm telling you. Minus the brake line bracket, the lower mounts are identical. Meaning you can swap them left to right and it not being an issue.

[Bacon_Fish]

yea i get that,i can cut the bracket off and weld it on the other side..done.
or i can just get another one.

[rebornS14]

Originally Posted by Bacon_Fish

i measured the control arm and measured an old one,they were the same,but i will take it off and check;
if they're identical,how would it work if i flipped it over? the bracket ends up on the other side from the brake line.

i would like to know HOW you measured these lca's

[Bacon_Fish]

with a tape measure?
thats besides the point,its not bent,the bolt is not bent,i already know what the problem is.
its being taken care of(:

[jr_ss]

So enlighten us, what is the problem?

[Bacon_Fish]

the bottom mount that we've been arguing about..
im getting the one for the right side of the car..

[Matej]

Originally Posted by jr_ss

You're not getting what I'm telling you. Minus the brake line bracket, the lower mounts are identical. Meaning you can swap them left to right and it not being an issue.

Maybe his lower mount is upside down. Some coilovers have the upper bolt hole offset a bit to give negative camber, so upside down it would give positive camber. Though I am not sure if it would be that noticeable.

[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by Matej

Maybe his lower mount is upside down. Some coilovers have the upper bolt hole offset a bit to give negative camber, so upside down it would give positive camber. Though I am not sure if it would be that noticeable.

It wouldn't be able to move at all if that were the case... He'd be pulling on the control arm, tension rods, and steering linkage to move it that way.

I highly doubt its the coil mount. Seriously, pull the LCA out and lay it on a flat surface. Guarantee you it's bent.

[zerodameaon]

First off this belongs in tech section not chat.

Second the mount being right or left won't dick, if it does fix it, it is not because the side it was supposed to go on but some other crap being wrong with the mount. Ignore the brake line bracket as a lot of coilovers don't even have them and don't have L/R stamped on the mount, how are you supposed to know what side if they were not identical? And you bent a ball joint but did not manage to bend the LCA, how the fuck did you get that lucky?

Did you stop and consider if you swear up and down your control arm is not bent that you may have instead bent your crossmember or the car itself? Could have fucked up the strut tower or the frame.

[Bacon_Fish]

i looked..ball joint is not bent..after replacing a coilover..nothing else is bent.
im 110% sure that the mount is wrong,i will further inspection once i get the other mount.
other then that nothing is bent.

[lalo167]

I had the same problem when i installed my coils. You just need to make sure the offset hole on the bottom mount is on the top! Not the bottom, when you tighten the bolts make sure you push it back.

[fliprayzin240sx]

If you freaking hit hard enough to fuck up the shock, your LCA is fucking bent. No butts or ifs about it. I've hit shit hard enough before that the damn crossmember got tweaked too.

[xoxide]

I truly do not understand why people ask for help/advice but wont listen when you offer it.

[Bacon_Fish]

Originally Posted by xoxide

I truly do not understand why people ask for help/advice but wont listen when you offer it.

i was asking until i found out what the problem was,people reaponded prior to me finding out what was wrong

[Bacon_Fish]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

If you freaking hit hard enough to fuck up the shock, your LCA is fucking bent. No butts or ifs about it. I've hit shit hard enough before that the damn crossmember got tweaked too.

how about this..i take off the LCA and then personally let you know that its not bent?
deal?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by Bacon_Fish

how about this..i take off the LCA and then personally let you know that its not bent?
deal?

Take both side off, lay them next to each other. Better yet, find a spare LCA and compare them. You gotta understand something about these cars, parts like the LCA are designed to bend and break to minimize damage to the frame of the car. Would you rather replace a $150 part or a tweaked frame? Thats one of the reason running solid/aftermarket suspension pieces are bad, you wreck the car, you'd damage alot more than just the suspension.

But hey, the fuck do I know right? Its your car, I'm just letting you know what I've experience from fucking with S14s for the last 12 yrs and crashing from time to time.

[jr_ss]

Flip, you're preaching to the quire. Apparently he knows all and an arbitrary "measurent" confirmed it wasn't bent.

GTFO man, others are confirming what I stated from the get go. Pull the fucking arm and check it out. Once you confirm it's fucked, you can come back here with your tail between your legs and tell us we were right.

[zerodameaon]

Originally Posted by jr_ss

Flip, you're preaching to the quire. Apparently he knows all and an arbitrary "measurent" confirmed it wasn't bent.

GTFO man, others are confirming what I stated from the get go. Pull the fucking arm and check it out. Once you confirm it's fucked, you can come back here with your tail between your legs and tell us we were right.

Haha that will never happen, he will either just say it was his mount being from the wrong side or he will never come back.

[Bacon_Fish]

i'll pull it off and take 50 pictures of them side to side,just so i can end all this unnecessary arguing.

[Bacon_Fish]

Originally Posted by zerodameaon

Haha that will never happen, he will either just say it was his mount being from the wrong side or he will never come back.

even better,i'll take it off and bring it to you..how does that sound?
just so you can see it.

[xoxide]

^That would be greatly appreciated.