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illvialuver · 12-06-2006, 12:36 AM

I have a 96 240sx, and Im having a problem with a smell coming form the shifter hole, I was told that if you have a B&M shortshifter youll get all new parts and the smell will go away. if you have a B&M shortshifter coudl you please tell me if this is true. thanks.

TAMTANIUM · 12-06-2006, 12:44 AM

I don't think that is true. You prolly didn't seal the shifter plate good enough, so the oil is prolly leaking out and burning. Does it smell like oil at all?

miucus · 12-06-2006, 12:46 AM

yeah its probably the seal. do u see smoke coming out?

s13silvia03 · 12-06-2006, 12:50 AM

Like they said, the rubber boot on the shifter is probably tore, if you buy a B&M, it does have a new rubber boot installed on it.

Jung918 · 12-06-2006, 12:54 AM

if your getting a smell, something is wrong. Either you don't have enough oil or your leaking it. Check under the car and see if you get any leaks from the front, rear, sensors, shifter plate area, etc. Also check your oil level.

A Spec Products · 12-06-2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by s13silvia03

Like they said, the rubber boot on the shifter is probably tore, if you buy a B&M, it does have a new rubber boot installed on it.

I agree. It's probably just the boot. Start with the easy solutions first, before the hard ones.

The one under the accordian one (the smaller one)

It's cheap, like $5 from dealer

Take off the accordian boot and see

I'm not a fan of the short shifters on 240, can't figure out what damn gear you're in haha

nsany(atl) · 12-06-2006, 04:49 AM

it comes with all new parts you just need to seal the b&m with some rtv and the smell should go away

!Zar! · 12-06-2006, 10:59 AM

Oil is on the rubber piece as said prior.

Unless you like a few other people, who didn't install the front two screws since they are harder to get to. Oil could be coming from there.

When I had a problem like that, I refitted the seal and cleaned the whole area with some simple green.

SoSideways · 12-06-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by A Spec Products

I'm not a fan of the short shifters on 240, can't figure out what damn gear you're in haha

Yeah but you'll need one if you're putting on a 6" bubble shift knob....

I've felt a B&M shifter's shifts with a 6" bubble shift knob, feels like a tighter stock shifter as far as shift throws go. It's a nice.

brainfood · 12-06-2006, 12:33 PM

Problem is, as with a lot of s14's is it sloshes around and comes out of the shifter hole. Now udner hard driving on my old s14 and a friend of mines even with the rubber boot on there it would still leak out of the top hole. Not sure if there is a seal for the shifter hole where the c-clip is but as I have seen them they just have the plastic pieces on the shifter and then the c-ring and thats it. The b&m replaces the whole top plate and has seals on the shifter correct? I think that is his question. I might have had a bad experience with ka trans in s14's but most of the ones I have seen leak out of the top and smell. When I stripped my old s14 it had trans fluid all inside the car with all 3 boots installed?!

BC240 · 12-06-2006, 12:38 PM

+1 For the boot, If you get the B&M it will come with all new boots including the one that is probably cracked on yours causing the smell. If you just want to fix the problem buy the boot and replace it, It takes 10-15 mins. I can get your a part number and supply pictures if you need.

MrSkinny · 12-06-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BC240

+1 For the boot, If you get the B&M it will come with all new boots including the one that is probably cracked on yours causing the smell. If you just want to fix the problem buy the boot and replace it, It takes 10-15 mins. I can get your a part number and supply pictures if you need.

could you do that please ? i need to replace those boots

BC240 · 12-06-2006, 04:53 PM

im at work right now so I need to wait till I get home to post the actual pictures of what I did. The RED arrow is the boot I replaced, it was cracked open and causing fine smoke to enter my cabin after long trips or heavy acceleration. but you should also check and replace the BLUE boot if its damaged also. as for the part number ill have to find it on my reciept later. Also I had to go out and buy new zipties as upper/lower boot retainers, I wouldn't recommend re-using the old ones.

s13silvia03 · 12-06-2006, 04:58 PM

I believe this is the boot you would need, I believe it should be the one that BC240 has the red arrow going to.

BC240 · 12-06-2006, 05:08 PM

Could be, but it doesn't even show the picture. All im saying is the part that fixed my smoking shifter is the one with the red arrow, it is possible that the leak could be coming from another part of the assembly. Just start taking it apart like in the picture and look for holes, whatever has one bring into the dealership and ask for a new one. Just be careful because they aren't very smart and tried to sell me the wrong boot.

BC240 · 12-06-2006, 06:50 PM

Ok heres a few pics, The first one you see is after you take the top panel off, this is the second boot (the first being the leather wrapping attached to the bezel). Make sure this is undamaged and take it off:

This picture shows the second boot, make sure its undamaged and take it off:

Another better shot showing the damage:

If yours is damaged take it off and replaced it with the new one by sliding it on and zap strapping it tight. here is the finished product

After I did this I had no smoke and no smell, and both were very noticable beforehand. I have more pictures but its fairly simple. If someone wants me to do a better writeup I will. Oh and FYI I took those :ghey: mats out, they came with the car to protect the original 240sx ones but were to ugly to look at.

12-06-2006, 12:36 AM	#1
illvialuver Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: M-A-R-S... MARS BITCHES Age: 42 Posts: 5,065 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	B&M shortshifter question. I have a 96 240sx, and Im having a problem with a smell coming form the shifter hole, I was told that if you have a B&M shortshifter youll get all new parts and the smell will go away. if you have a B&M shortshifter coudl you please tell me if this is true. thanks.

12-06-2006, 12:50 AM	#4
s13silvia03 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PA.....I always thought that dogs...umm...layed eggs, and I learned something today Age: 40 Posts: 628 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: s13silvia03 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Like they said, the rubber boot on the shifter is probably tore, if you buy a B&M, it does have a new rubber boot installed on it. __________________

12-06-2006, 12:54 AM	#5
Jung918 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CA Posts: 3,203 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	if your getting a smell, something is wrong. Either you don't have enough oil or your leaking it. Check under the car and see if you get any leaks from the front, rear, sensors, shifter plate area, etc. Also check your oil level. __________________ Sale: Hello Kitty Horn Button S14 Rear Valences K.Y. Gordon the Thief (Tony Chen)

12-06-2006, 04:49 AM	#7
nsany(atl) Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Smyrna,GA Posts: 346 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	it comes with all new parts you just need to seal the b&m with some rtv and the smell should go away __________________ '92 C-West Sil/80 SR *SOLD* '95 Track car

12-06-2006, 10:59 AM	#8
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Oil is on the rubber piece as said prior. Unless you like a few other people, who didn't install the front two screws since they are harder to get to. Oil could be coming from there. When I had a problem like that, I refitted the seal and cleaned the whole area with some simple green. __________________

12-06-2006, 12:44 AM	#2
TAMTANIUM Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Socal. wc Age: 38 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I don't think that is true. You prolly didn't seal the shifter plate good enough, so the oil is prolly leaking out and burning. Does it smell like oil at all?

12-06-2006, 12:46 AM	#3
miucus Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 949 Posts: 744 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yeah its probably the seal. do u see smoke coming out?

12-06-2006, 12:33 PM	#10
brainfood Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Eagle Rock, CA Age: 42 Posts: 2,957 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Problem is, as with a lot of s14's is it sloshes around and comes out of the shifter hole. Now udner hard driving on my old s14 and a friend of mines even with the rubber boot on there it would still leak out of the top hole. Not sure if there is a seal for the shifter hole where the c-clip is but as I have seen them they just have the plastic pieces on the shifter and then the c-ring and thats it. The b&m replaces the whole top plate and has seals on the shifter correct? I think that is his question. I might have had a bad experience with ka trans in s14's but most of the ones I have seen leak out of the top and smell. When I stripped my old s14 it had trans fluid all inside the car with all 3 boots installed?! __________________ Bryan Rogers http://www.seriousbadass.com

12-06-2006, 12:38 PM	#11
BC240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, BC Age: 43 Posts: 472 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	+1 For the boot, If you get the B&M it will come with all new boots including the one that is probably cracked on yours causing the smell. If you just want to fix the problem buy the boot and replace it, It takes 10-15 mins. I can get your a part number and supply pictures if you need.

12-06-2006, 04:53 PM	#13
BC240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, BC Age: 43 Posts: 472 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	im at work right now so I need to wait till I get home to post the actual pictures of what I did. The RED arrow is the boot I replaced, it was cracked open and causing fine smoke to enter my cabin after long trips or heavy acceleration. but you should also check and replace the BLUE boot if its damaged also. as for the part number ill have to find it on my reciept later. Also I had to go out and buy new zipties as upper/lower boot retainers, I wouldn't recommend re-using the old ones.

12-06-2006, 04:58 PM	#14
s13silvia03 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PA.....I always thought that dogs...umm...layed eggs, and I learned something today Age: 40 Posts: 628 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: s13silvia03 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I believe this is the boot you would need, I believe it should be the one that BC240 has the red arrow going to. __________________

12-06-2006, 05:08 PM	#15
BC240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, BC Age: 43 Posts: 472 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Could be, but it doesn't even show the picture. All im saying is the part that fixed my smoking shifter is the one with the red arrow, it is possible that the leak could be coming from another part of the assembly. Just start taking it apart like in the picture and look for holes, whatever has one bring into the dealership and ask for a new one. Just be careful because they aren't very smart and tried to sell me the wrong boot.

12-06-2006, 06:50 PM	#16
BC240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, BC Age: 43 Posts: 472 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Ok heres a few pics, The first one you see is after you take the top panel off, this is the second boot (the first being the leather wrapping attached to the bezel). Make sure this is undamaged and take it off: This picture shows the second boot, make sure its undamaged and take it off: Another better shot showing the damage: If yours is damaged take it off and replaced it with the new one by sliding it on and zap strapping it tight. here is the finished product After I did this I had no smoke and no smell, and both were very noticable beforehand. I have more pictures but its fairly simple. If someone wants me to do a better writeup I will. Oh and FYI I took those :ghey: mats out, they came with the car to protect the original 240sx ones but were to ugly to look at.