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adrians_s13 · 10-22-2010, 02:42 PM

Hey guys... I'm replacing my rear axles (5 bolt j30 diff) for the 2nd time in a less than 2 years (i'm on my 3rd pair now)... and I'm trying to figure out why the heck the CV boots keep blowing. Granted all the axles I've been replacing them with are used with god-knows how many miles on them....
But I'm wondering if its because of how low I am that's whats causing them to blow.

Just wondering if any of you super low guys have the same issue? if so what's your solution?

Corbic · 10-22-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by adrians_s13

Hey guys... I'm replacing my rear axles (5 bolt j30 diff) for the 2nd time in a less than 2 years (i'm on my 3rd pair now)... and I'm trying to figure out why the heck the CV boots keep blowing. Granted all the axles I've been replacing them with are used with god-knows how many miles on them....
But I'm wondering if its because of how low I am that's whats causing them to blow.

Just wondering if any of you super low guys have the same issue? if so what's your solution?

$70 a piece, reman... get them, life time warranty.

spooled240 · 10-22-2010, 02:51 PM

i have the same problem i just recently replaced my axles with lower mileage axles for 20 bucks and they are ripping again

Corbic · 10-22-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spooled240

i have the same problem i just recently replaced my axles with lower mileage axles for 20 bucks and they are ripping again

*sigh* reman.... oem-ish parts, brand new... life time warranty.

want to buy my used ball joints too? I'll sell em cheap!

spooled240 · 10-22-2010, 04:00 PM

where do you get these axles for 70 a piece w/ lifetime warranty?

upsdude · 10-22-2010, 04:02 PM

i need the bolts that hook the axle to the output shaft...the ones for the 5 bolt pattern...any idea where i can get 'em

joeapple8 · 10-22-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by upsdude

i need the bolts that hook the axle to the output shaft...the ones for the 5 bolt pattern...any idea where i can get 'em

My friend used Grade 8 bolts and lock nuts on his diff, and he spins tires all day.. not a problem yet.

GSXRJJordan · 10-22-2010, 04:15 PM

Yes, low cars always have this problem, because of the misalignment of the joints. If you look at the axles from behind you can see the steep angle (especially on the short one) from diff to hub on a really low car.

Matt Powers (one of my sponsored drivers this last year in FD) blew stock axles a few times before upgrading to Driveshaft Shop 300M's, but he's on 265-series NT05's.

Corbic · 10-22-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by spooled240

where do you get these axles for 70 a piece w/ lifetime warranty?

I lied... they are $60 a pop.

Master Pro CV 60-6059 - CV Half-Shaft Assembly 1993 Nissan 240SX | O'Reilly Auto Parts

Def · 10-22-2010, 04:29 PM

If you keep blowing axles up, raise your car. It's got to be super ricer low.

Raising your rear subframe up with bushings also helps this slightly, but won't correct ricer ride height.

upsdude · 10-22-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Def

If you keep blowing axles up, raise your car. It's got to be super ricer low.

Raising your rear subframe up with bushings also helps this slightly, but won't correct ricer ride height.

i have pbm subframe risers if needed...

WISH ONE · 10-22-2010, 05:27 PM

yeah Matt's (one of jordan innovations sponsored drivers this last year in FD LOL)car is super low, or was super low.

azndoc · 10-22-2010, 05:36 PM

I concur that Matt Powers (one of Jordan Innovations 2010 FD driver who finished 16th place overall) did indeed have his car super low, but has since raised it a little bit. I would try the PBM or SPL subframe risers as a means to solve the problem.

-Jack (one of Jordan Innovations sponsored driver who does not drive in FD)

<--------- 9,000th post just for you Jeffrey

adrians_s13 · 10-22-2010, 06:13 PM

subframe risers eh?

got it. I'll definitely give that one a try.

thanks for all the responses guys.

and yeah... my car's super ricer low

fckillerbee · 10-22-2010, 06:22 PM

so matt powers (one of jordan innovations sponsored drivers this last year in FD LOL that finished 16th with a ka-t going LSx) runs a different axle huh?

and jeff...you mentioned something about the short side?

I'm also really low as well, but have not had this problem yet....or at least that I know of.

If you could let me know what to "feel" for when it does happen? or is this one of those things that when the nuts break...your fooked? aaaaaaand....wouldn't a welded diff put less stress on those axles in comparison to an open diff that doesn't have the other side helping it rotate?

xiaphin · 10-22-2010, 06:22 PM

Was concerned about this myself before even driving my car. S13, Z32 NA Diff, J30 5-Bolt axles. The driver side shaft boot is at a creepy angle and the boot has an "underfold" in it. On jackstands btw.

fckillerbee · 10-22-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by adrians_s13

subframe risers eh?

got it. I'll definitely give that one a try.

thanks for all the responses guys.

and yeah... my car's super ricer low

pics?

msgbettyboopfuckingleght.

adrians_s13 · 10-22-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fckillerbee

pics?

msgbettyboopfuckingleght.

pics of what? the blown axles or my car's ride height? either way, I have neither, lol.

As far as what made me notice is I started hearing a clunking sound when driving slow, but only on accel, not on decel or while coasting. So the other day I took a look under my car, and bam, I noticed the cv boot busted and axle grease all over my subframe. FML

fckillerbee · 10-22-2010, 07:27 PM

damn...looks like I have to do a little investigation. lol

Sileighty_85 · 10-22-2010, 08:39 PM

I bought some remans from oreillys

They redesign the boots to where they dont make contact with each other when the cars are lowered

No issues with mine at all

wannabdr1ftr · 10-22-2010, 08:46 PM

those are some nice looking axles ^^

Corbic · 10-22-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wannabdr1ftr

those are some nice looking axles ^^

That's what I'm rocking too. @#%k AdvancedZone Boys.

GSXRJJordan · 10-22-2010, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by azndoc

I concur that Matt Powers (one of Jordan Innovations 2010 FD driver who finished 16th place overall) did indeed have his car super low, but has since raised it a little bit. I would try the PBM or SPL subframe risers as a means to solve the problem.

-Jack (one of Jordan Innovations sponsored driver who does not drive in FD)

<--------- 9,000th post just for you Jeffrey

Lol <3 you Jack.

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Originally Posted by WISH ONE

yeah Matt's (one of jordan innovations sponsored drivers this last year in FD LOL)car is super low, or was super low.

Not quite as low as it used to be, but still damn low.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

so matt powers (one of jordan innovations sponsored drivers this last year in FD LOL that finished 16th with a ka-t going LSx) runs a different axle huh?

and jeff...you mentioned something about the short side?

I'm also really low as well, but have not had this problem yet....or at least that I know of.

If you could let me know what to "feel" for when it does happen? or is this one of those things that when the nuts break...your fooked? aaaaaaand....wouldn't a welded diff put less stress on those axles in comparison to an open diff that doesn't have the other side helping it rotate?

Yeah he swapped to $$$ axles, and then swapped again to even more $$$ axles when he got his quick-change rear end. The short one has more misalignment angle than the long side, usually that's the CV that breaks.

You'll know it's broken when you clutch kick and you hear/feel the sick clunk, and only one tire spins. It's not the nuts that break, it's the CV joint itself. No a welded does not put less stress on anything lol, if anything it stresses axles more since whenever you're turning there's major stress on both sides.

spooled240 · 10-22-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

I lied... they are $60 a pop.

Master Pro CV 60-6059 - CV Half-Shaft Assembly 1993 Nissan 240SX | O'Reilly Auto Parts

sweet thx man

fckillerbee · 10-23-2010, 11:58 AM

hey jeff....would the short side...also be the driver side?

and from the sounds of it...my axle has yet to break...just the boot. so i may be seeing you guys today at the sonic meet after my cousins bday.. lol

chiboy002 · 10-23-2010, 12:44 PM

my cv joint broke like 1 week after i slammed my car lol. awaiting to put new ones on

1on1 · 01-08-2011, 04:56 PM

old thread but i have discovered this problem today:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...1/559dba0a.jpg

As you can see, my boot is done. luckily, i kept my old axles which i will be replacing today.

I don't have money right now to get it replaced but is it ok to drive for a short distance?

i can hear clunking noises

az_240 · 01-08-2011, 10:34 PM

^you're fine. It will just make a mess. Just get them replaced when you have time.

My brothers been driving on blown axles in his FWD ford probe for over 3 years haha

There were some spacers posted in the roll center thread that should help with this issue on very low cars. They space the axles away from the diff so there is not as much stress on them. Not sure where to get them though.

1on1 · 01-09-2011, 12:58 AM

after i swapped my axles, I have the same problem.

I guess having -6 camber + being really really low causes this problem. going to re-raise the car tomorrow morning T__T

sw20g · 01-09-2011, 01:32 AM

I was worried about this same thing when I had my fc, luckily the studs from the axle to diff broke/ came out first... I replaced em once and never had a problem with it again, this was almost maxxed out on kei offices on 17's with a decent amount of camber no clue exactly how much

hopefully my 240 doesn't have this problem

10-22-2010, 02:42 PM	#1
adrians_s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: long beach, CA ^_^ Age: 40 Posts: 2,878 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Too low = blown axles?? Hey guys... I'm replacing my rear axles (5 bolt j30 diff) for the 2nd time in a less than 2 years (i'm on my 3rd pair now)... and I'm trying to figure out why the heck the CV boots keep blowing. Granted all the axles I've been replacing them with are used with god-knows how many miles on them.... But I'm wondering if its because of how low I am that's whats causing them to blow. Just wondering if any of you super low guys have the same issue? if so what's your solution? __________________ @adrianfromthecastle

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GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Yes, low cars always have this problem, because of the misalignment of the joints. If you look at the axles from behind you can see the steep angle (especially on the short one) from diff to hub on a really low car. Matt Powers (one of my sponsored drivers this last year in FD) blew stock axles a few times before upgrading to Driveshaft Shop 300M's, but he's on 265-series NT05's. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

10-22-2010, 04:29 PM	#10
Def Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,701 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	If you keep blowing axles up, raise your car. It's got to be super ricer low. Raising your rear subframe up with bushings also helps this slightly, but won't correct ricer ride height. __________________ S13 Hatch - Goes around tracks quickly DEFSPORT

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WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,738 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	yeah Matt's (one of jordan innovations sponsored drivers this last year in FD LOL)car is super low, or was super low. __________________ PARTING/SELLING MY COUPE. PM ME.

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adrians_s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: long beach, CA ^_^ Age: 40 Posts: 2,878 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	subframe risers eh? got it. I'll definitely give that one a try. thanks for all the responses guys. and yeah... my car's super ricer low __________________ @adrianfromthecastle

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spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,203 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	i have the same problem i just recently replaced my axles with lower mileage axles for 20 bucks and they are ripping again

10-22-2010, 04:00 PM	#5
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,203 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	where do you get these axles for 70 a piece w/ lifetime warranty?

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upsdude Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fontana (the good part) Posts: 2,721 Trader Rating: (46) Rides Gallery: upsdude Feedback Score: 46 reviews	i need the bolts that hook the axle to the output shaft...the ones for the 5 bolt pattern...any idea where i can get 'em

10-22-2010, 05:36 PM	#13
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 43 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	I concur that Matt Powers (one of Jordan Innovations 2010 FD driver who finished 16th place overall) did indeed have his car super low, but has since raised it a little bit. I would try the PBM or SPL subframe risers as a means to solve the problem. -Jack (one of Jordan Innovations sponsored driver who does not drive in FD) <--------- 9,000th post just for you Jeffrey

10-22-2010, 06:22 PM	#15
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 40 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	so matt powers (one of jordan innovations sponsored drivers this last year in FD LOL that finished 16th with a ka-t going LSx) runs a different axle huh? and jeff...you mentioned something about the short side? I'm also really low as well, but have not had this problem yet....or at least that I know of. If you could let me know what to "feel" for when it does happen? or is this one of those things that when the nuts break...your fooked? aaaaaaand....wouldn't a welded diff put less stress on those axles in comparison to an open diff that doesn't have the other side helping it rotate?

10-22-2010, 06:22 PM	#16
xiaphin Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pleasanton Age: 41 Posts: 451 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	Was concerned about this myself before even driving my car. S13, Z32 NA Diff, J30 5-Bolt axles. The driver side shaft boot is at a creepy angle and the boot has an "underfold" in it. On jackstands btw. __________________ 2018 Audi RS 3 \| Unitronic Stage 1 ECU and Stage 2 TCU tune

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fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 40 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	damn...looks like I have to do a little investigation. lol

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Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I bought some remans from oreillys They redesign the boots to where they dont make contact with each other when the cars are lowered No issues with mine at all __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

10-22-2010, 08:46 PM	#21
wannabdr1ftr Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: TX Age: 38 Posts: 551 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	those are some nice looking axles ^^ __________________

10-23-2010, 11:58 AM	#25
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 40 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	hey jeff....would the short side...also be the driver side? and from the sounds of it...my axle has yet to break...just the boot. so i may be seeing you guys today at the sonic meet after my cousins bday.. lol

10-23-2010, 12:44 PM	#26
chiboy002 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: ◙ Posts: 4,435 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	my cv joint broke like 1 week after i slammed my car lol. awaiting to put new ones on __________________ street dancer. GLEAM

01-08-2011, 04:56 PM	#27
1on1 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Age: 39 Posts: 3,321 Trader Rating: (15) Rides Gallery: 1on1 Feedback Score: 15 reviews	old thread but i have discovered this problem today: http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...1/559dba0a.jpg As you can see, my boot is done. luckily, i kept my old axles which i will be replacing today. I don't have money right now to get it replaced but is it ok to drive for a short distance? i can hear clunking noises __________________ instagram

01-08-2011, 10:34 PM	#28
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	^you're fine. It will just make a mess. Just get them replaced when you have time. My brothers been driving on blown axles in his FWD ford probe for over 3 years haha There were some spacers posted in the roll center thread that should help with this issue on very low cars. They space the axles away from the diff so there is not as much stress on them. Not sure where to get them though.

01-09-2011, 12:58 AM	#29
1on1 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Age: 39 Posts: 3,321 Trader Rating: (15) Rides Gallery: 1on1 Feedback Score: 15 reviews	after i swapped my axles, I have the same problem. I guess having -6 camber + being really really low causes this problem. going to re-raise the car tomorrow morning T__T __________________ instagram

01-09-2011, 01:32 AM	#30
sw20g Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nj Posts: 203 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I was worried about this same thing when I had my fc, luckily the studs from the axle to diff broke/ came out first... I replaced em once and never had a problem with it again, this was almost maxxed out on kei offices on 17's with a decent amount of camber no clue exactly how much hopefully my 240 doesn't have this problem