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*exitspeed* · 06-11-2004, 12:20 PM

As in Mitsu 3000gt VR-4. Might be a dumb question but it's driving me crazy. Anyone know?

AKADriver · 06-11-2004, 12:27 PM

Nothing. Well, the '4' refers to AWD. or maybe 4 wheel steering. Or maybe both.

*Jeff240sx* · 06-11-2004, 01:05 PM

Howzabout the Jetta VR-6?
-Jeff

OptionZero · 06-11-2004, 01:24 PM

VR-4 are AWD Turbo mitsubishi's.

Galant VR-4 = AWD Galant w/ Lancer/Eclipse engine (early 90/late 80s?)

3000GT VR-4= 320hp TT 3.0 V6 AWD monster....that weighs 3800lbs =P

I'm gonna hijack this thread:

How hard are 3000gt's to maintain and work on? Roomy engine bay, logical setups and easy access to get to suspension and other bits?

aa87 · 06-11-2004, 01:33 PM

Yeah, engine bays are a bit crowded, unsure about the rest. You dont really see many high horsepower 3si's, compared to supras or even 300zx's, but they have potential.

rrobe99999 · 06-11-2004, 01:52 PM

My GF has a 3000 GT and it is a PITA to work on, very cramped engine bay and worse then my Z32 'cus FWD. The only things I'll do on that car are oil changes, A/C recharge and other simple maintenance. The power antenna was easy to replace, just like our cars

AKADriver · 06-11-2004, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff240sx

Howzabout the Jetta VR-6?
-Jeff

V = V
R = Reihenmotor = Inline engine
6 = 6 cylinder

It refers to the way the narrow angle engine works sort of like a V6 and sort of like an inline six.

Mirage · 06-11-2004, 03:37 PM

Viscous Runtime 4, according to the old 91-92 galant vr-4 factory brochures I believe it was in. It listed it like

4 wheel drive
4 wheel steering
4 wheel disc brakes
and I think one other thing.

3000GT guys will tell you it doesn't mean anything usually. Thats what was always said when I use to own '93 VR4

TheSnail · 06-11-2004, 04:51 PM

My brothers got a VR-2, no bullshi+

*exitspeed* · 06-11-2004, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirage

Viscous Runtime 4, according to the old 91-92 galant vr-4 factory brochures I believe it was in. It listed it like

4 wheel drive
4 wheel steering
4 wheel disc brakes
and I think one other thing.

3000GT guys will tell you it doesn't mean anything usually. Thats what was always said when I use to own '93 VR4

Wow thats pretty odd?

Almost every other car out there with numers and letters has a meaning. The only other ones I can think of with out a meaning are chevy's. Z28 z24 z71 z34 WTF explain those.

AKADriver · 06-11-2004, 05:16 PM

The Chevy names are option codes.

Bliss · 06-11-2004, 10:38 PM

arent those things extremely heavy? anytime i hear arguments for/against 300GTs, one of the main points is weight..

iyceman · 06-11-2004, 10:40 PM

3sis are pig heavy, which makes them more or less useless. They're also ungodly expensive. Imagine a more portly version of a Supra, and then remember that it's a DSM so it will fall apart more frequently than J-Lo's marriage plans. Still wanna buy one?

TheSnail · 06-11-2004, 10:41 PM

3000gt is 3800lbs
Galant is 2800lbs

I had a Stealth RT, which is the same weight as the 3000's other then base models.

TheSnail · 06-11-2004, 10:43 PM

My tranny crapped out on my Stealth, and my brother went through two trannies in 3 months on his galant vr-2. I hate DSM's, motors are fine but the trannies are a pile of shi+.

iyceman · 06-11-2004, 10:45 PM

The entire car is a pile of shit man...

Bliss · 06-11-2004, 10:45 PM

[QUOTE=TheSnail]3000gt is 3800lbs
Galant is 2800lbs

QUOTE]

damn, i had no idea they were that heavy. whats a MKIV weigh in at? 300zx?

wtf does 3si mean? i know its for 3000GTs, but wtf?

TheSnail · 06-11-2004, 10:47 PM

3000gt stealth international

iyceman · 06-11-2004, 10:50 PM

Supra TT - 3629 lbs
Z32 300ZX TT - 3480 lbs
3000GT VR4 - 3810 lbs

JtWo · 06-12-2004, 04:36 AM

VR-4 = Very Racist FOURiegner?

iyceman · 06-12-2004, 07:22 AM

You're funny.

**Phlip** · 06-12-2004, 11:57 AM

VR-4= VeRy fuckin expensive, damn near 4000 pounds

Agent_S13 · 06-12-2004, 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=OptionZero]VR-4 are AWD Turbo mitsubishi's.

Galant VR-4 = AWD Galant w/ Lancer/Eclipse engine (early 90/late 80s?)

3000GT VR-4= 320hp TT 3.0 V6 AWD monster....that weighs 3800lbs =P

[\QUOTE]

I thought the 3000GT offered 2 versions:
1) TT inline 4
2) N/A V6

Dunno HP figures but that was initial research when friends and I testdrove one (the N/A V6 version)

Anyways, carry on

-Aaron
'91 240sx coupe

Ghettokracker71 · 06-12-2004, 01:01 PM

I like them b/c they are AWD to they grip well,but the damn engine is transverly mounted and its a 3.0 six with two turbos....no room whatsoever.

iyceman · 06-12-2004, 01:02 PM

Honestly, for the price it takes to build a good 3si you can prolly come damn close to building a nice ass WRX, and those are hella cooler IMO.

Ghettokracker71 · 06-12-2004, 01:09 PM

Good point,I never thought about that.I'm sure the scoobie would be alot more reliable too,lol.

iyceman · 06-12-2004, 01:16 PM

Mmmm.... 2000 Imprezza 2.5 RS w/ an EJ20DET from an '02 Rex.

I'm still trying to find SOMEONE who can tell me if it's feasible to install the EJ25DET out of an STi into the 2000 2.5 chassis.

JtWo · 06-12-2004, 06:39 PM

I thought all 3KGT's were v6? None of them are DSM's since they dont got a 4cyl. And in my Kelly Blue Book pricing guide it says its a V6 turbo. 3.0liter

JtWo · 06-12-2004, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iyceman

Supra TT - 3629 lbs
Z32 300ZX TT - 3480 lbs
3000GT VR4 - 3810 lbs

MK4 TT's are 3505LBS?

s13Dr1ft · 06-12-2004, 07:26 PM

wow...Ok, 3kgts, VR-4 V6 3.0 Twin Turbo, Non VR-4 3.0 FWD POS fat pig.

Yes a 3kGT is a DSM, Dimond Star Motors, wich means Chrysler owns Mitsu..Dodge is Chrysler, Dodge Stealth is a 3KGT. get it now? as like teh Eclipse/Talon/Laser are DSM. After 1999 there was no more DSM.

Got it now? Yes they weigh alot, yes you can drop alot of weight too. We had a 98 with 17G turbos and that car was fast as shit..It made me puke alittle.

06-11-2004, 12:20 PM	#1
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 45 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What does VR-4 mean? As in Mitsu 3000gt VR-4. Might be a dumb question but it's driving me crazy. Anyone know? __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com Last edited by exitspeed; 06-11-2004 at 04:55 PM..

06-11-2004, 01:05 PM	#3
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 42 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Howzabout the Jetta VR-6? -Jeff __________________ Whatup?

06-11-2004, 10:38 PM	#12
Bliss Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego/Bay Area Age: 39 Posts: 686 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	arent those things extremely heavy? anytime i hear arguments for/against 300GTs, one of the main points is weight.. __________________ -Ben

06-11-2004, 10:40 PM	#13
iyceman Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Age: 41 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	3sis are pig heavy, which makes them more or less useless. They're also ungodly expensive. Imagine a more portly version of a Supra, and then remember that it's a DSM so it will fall apart more frequently than J-Lo's marriage plans. Still wanna buy one? __________________ Nissan lover in waiting

06-11-2004, 10:45 PM	#16
iyceman Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Age: 41 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The entire car is a pile of shit man... __________________ Nissan lover in waiting

06-11-2004, 12:27 PM	#2
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Nothing. Well, the '4' refers to AWD. or maybe 4 wheel steering. Or maybe both.

06-11-2004, 01:24 PM	#4
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	VR-4 are AWD Turbo mitsubishi's. Galant VR-4 = AWD Galant w/ Lancer/Eclipse engine (early 90/late 80s?) 3000GT VR-4= 320hp TT 3.0 V6 AWD monster....that weighs 3800lbs =P I'm gonna hijack this thread: How hard are 3000gt's to maintain and work on? Roomy engine bay, logical setups and easy access to get to suspension and other bits?

06-11-2004, 01:33 PM	#5
aa87 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shreveport, LA Age: 37 Posts: 1,116 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yeah, engine bays are a bit crowded, unsure about the rest. You dont really see many high horsepower 3si's, compared to supras or even 300zx's, but they have potential.

06-11-2004, 01:52 PM	#6
rrobe99999 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Destin, Fl Posts: 262 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My GF has a 3000 GT and it is a PITA to work on, very cramped engine bay and worse then my Z32 'cus FWD. The only things I'll do on that car are oil changes, A/C recharge and other simple maintenance. The power antenna was easy to replace, just like our cars

06-11-2004, 03:37 PM	#8
Mirage Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Viscous Runtime 4, according to the old 91-92 galant vr-4 factory brochures I believe it was in. It listed it like 4 wheel drive 4 wheel steering 4 wheel disc brakes and I think one other thing. 3000GT guys will tell you it doesn't mean anything usually. Thats what was always said when I use to own '93 VR4

06-11-2004, 04:51 PM	#9
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My brothers got a VR-2, no bullshi+

06-11-2004, 05:16 PM	#11
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The Chevy names are option codes.

06-11-2004, 10:41 PM	#14
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	3000gt is 3800lbs Galant is 2800lbs I had a Stealth RT, which is the same weight as the 3000's other then base models.

06-11-2004, 10:43 PM	#15
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My tranny crapped out on my Stealth, and my brother went through two trannies in 3 months on his galant vr-2. I hate DSM's, motors are fine but the trannies are a pile of shi+.

06-11-2004, 10:47 PM	#18
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	3000gt stealth international

06-11-2004, 10:50 PM	#19
iyceman Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Age: 41 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Supra TT - 3629 lbs Z32 300ZX TT - 3480 lbs 3000GT VR4 - 3810 lbs __________________ Nissan lover in waiting

06-12-2004, 04:36 AM	#20
JtWo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 408 Age: 36 Posts: 747 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	VR-4 = Very Racist FOURiegner? __________________ -Jawn

06-12-2004, 07:22 AM	#21
iyceman Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Age: 41 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You're funny. __________________ Nissan lover in waiting

06-12-2004, 11:57 AM	#22
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	VR-4= VeRy fuckin expensive, damn near 4000 pounds __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

06-12-2004, 12:58 PM	#23
Agent_S13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 492 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	[QUOTE=OptionZero]VR-4 are AWD Turbo mitsubishi's. Galant VR-4 = AWD Galant w/ Lancer/Eclipse engine (early 90/late 80s?) 3000GT VR-4= 320hp TT 3.0 V6 AWD monster....that weighs 3800lbs =P [\QUOTE] I thought the 3000GT offered 2 versions: 1) TT inline 4 2) N/A V6 Dunno HP figures but that was initial research when friends and I testdrove one (the N/A V6 version) Anyways, carry on -Aaron '91 240sx coupe

06-12-2004, 01:01 PM	#24
Ghettokracker71 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Don't look now... Age: 38 Posts: 3,327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like them b/c they are AWD to they grip well,but the damn engine is transverly mounted and its a 3.0 six with two turbos....no room whatsoever.

06-12-2004, 01:02 PM	#25
iyceman Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Age: 41 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Honestly, for the price it takes to build a good 3si you can prolly come damn close to building a nice ass WRX, and those are hella cooler IMO. __________________ Nissan lover in waiting

06-12-2004, 01:09 PM	#26
Ghettokracker71 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Don't look now... Age: 38 Posts: 3,327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good point,I never thought about that.I'm sure the scoobie would be alot more reliable too,lol.

06-12-2004, 01:16 PM	#27
iyceman Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Age: 41 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Mmmm.... 2000 Imprezza 2.5 RS w/ an EJ20DET from an '02 Rex. I'm still trying to find SOMEONE who can tell me if it's feasible to install the EJ25DET out of an STi into the 2000 2.5 chassis. __________________ Nissan lover in waiting

06-12-2004, 06:39 PM	#28
JtWo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 408 Age: 36 Posts: 747 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thought all 3KGT's were v6? None of them are DSM's since they dont got a 4cyl. And in my Kelly Blue Book pricing guide it says its a V6 turbo. 3.0liter __________________ -Jawn

06-12-2004, 07:26 PM	#30
s13Dr1ft Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Indiana Age: 41 Posts: 772 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow...Ok, 3kgts, VR-4 V6 3.0 Twin Turbo, Non VR-4 3.0 FWD POS fat pig. Yes a 3kGT is a DSM, Dimond Star Motors, wich means Chrysler owns Mitsu..Dodge is Chrysler, Dodge Stealth is a 3KGT. get it now? as like teh Eclipse/Talon/Laser are DSM. After 1999 there was no more DSM. Got it now? Yes they weigh alot, yes you can drop alot of weight too. We had a 98 with 17G turbos and that car was fast as shit..It made me puke alittle. __________________ 1991 hatch Drift Indy