funny chat session

[MakotoS13]

okay so i started out showing this guy from the ranger forums some pics of what i've been working on then things got ugly...

aftershock112r: what u doin to it?
Makoto seven: restoration and modification
Makoto seven: currently getting it ready for paint
aftershock112r: awesome
Makoto seven: undoing 14 years of crap takes a little more than two months
aftershock112r: its an old 240 aint it? or is it a 180
Makoto seven: 240
aftershock112r: coo
Makoto seven: 180's were never made in america
aftershock112r: what motor is in it?
Makoto seven: the 12 valve KA24
aftershock112r: ah ok
aftershock112r: coo
Makoto seven: i'm gonna build a 16valve turbocharged 2.4L motor
Makoto seven: it's gonna be great
aftershock112r: heh coo
aftershock112r: i'd go with a bone stock SR20
aftershock112r: or a SR20DET
Makoto seven: my setup will smoke a SR20 like a cheap cigar
Makoto seven: on low boost
aftershock112r: heh ok
Makoto seven: 300ftlbs tq @ 7psi...
aftershock112r: better build that bottom end up
aftershock112r: lol
Makoto seven: the SR has a horribly weak valve train
Makoto seven: that's why i can't use it
aftershock112r: im not talkina bout top end...bottom end
Makoto seven: i need a dependable 350hp/tq at the crank and USEABLE torque
Makoto seven: the numbers i just gave you are from a bone stock motor
aftershock112r: a KA24 dont even have 200
aftershock112r: 1 turbo with 7psi will not bump it to 300
Makoto seven: mkay
aftershock112r: and like i was saying, you better build your bottom end up if you are using the KA...
aftershock112r: mmkay lol
Makoto seven: i won't argue what i've seen plenty of times
aftershock112r: ok
aftershock112r: its what you've seen...do you know what goes into building a KA24 to 300hp?
aftershock112r: your stock bottom end wont hold lol
Makoto seven: i won't have a stock bottom end
Makoto seven: but that isn't the discussion
aftershock112r: right...so you saying a 160hp KA24 will go from that to 300, with single turbo @7psi?
aftershock112r: got any tech articles on this?
Makoto seven: 155 hp and pretty much
aftershock112r: you better replace everything
Makoto seven: okay, i think you need to read up on the KA motor
aftershock112r: oh i have lol
aftershock112r: and im an SR20 fan
aftershock112r: and it really isnt worth the money to even work on that motor...SR20 has so much more potential
Makoto seven: HAHA
aftershock112r: thats like trying to make a non Cosworth escort a sports car lol
aftershock112r: haha ok
aftershock112r: do it, then show me
aftershock112r: then i'll believe you
Makoto seven: the main thing that screws up motors is too litlte fuel, anyhow
aftershock112r: im a minitrucker, i dont go by what you are going to do...you build a rep by what you do
aftershock112r: heh ok
Makoto seven: i haven't seen one KA that just died under stress
Makoto seven: you aren't listening
aftershock112r: i am lol
Makoto seven: i'm not saying i'm slappin a turbo on a stock motor
aftershock112r: i know
aftershock112r: i know what you are trying to do
Makoto seven: so proving you wrong won't happen in this instance
aftershock112r: yeah, do it, show me what you put in it...then put it on a dyno when you are done, even 2 yrs from now..until then, im with my SR20
Makoto seven: dude, almost all the SR's you know about are at 280hp or below
Makoto seven: most people keep them relatively stock
aftershock112r: nah dude
Makoto seven: hell, they need 14psi just to hit like mid 200's
aftershock112r: ok
Makoto seven: the larger displllacement and iron block AND better valvetrain work in favor of the KA24DE
aftershock112r: oh ok
Makoto seven: i mean, even if the SR's top could hold up as well as the KA's it still wouldn't have an iron block and it still wouldn't have that extra .4 liter
aftershock112r: yeah
Makoto seven: displacement, materials, and engineering matter and as it stands the KA is one tough SOB
Makoto seven: i'm well beyond being any sort of newbie to 240's and sure as hell not a newbie to motorsports
aftershock112r: you race any?
Makoto seven: besides for the amount of money it'd take to swap a stock SR into my car i could have over 300hp/tq from a KA-T that's build from the ground up with the good stuff.
Makoto seven: of course i do
aftershock112r: what do you race?
Makoto seven: proffessionally? nothing
Makoto seven: so you're a pro racer now?
aftershock112r: huh?
Makoto seven: you're asking the cars or the events?
Makoto seven: i've raced and driven hard just about every performance car i can get my handss on
aftershock112r: you said you arent new to motorsports..then what do you do
Makoto seven: which is pretty much a lot
aftershock112r: you work around cars?
Makoto seven: my family owns a ford dealership
aftershock112r: oh ok
Makoto seven: wee'
Makoto seven: we've done this all our lives
aftershock112r: my family has been around cars since the 70's int he philippines
Makoto seven: hell, i can't fight the urge to tinker with a computer case when i get bored
aftershock112r: my dad raced slalom with his 180
Makoto seven: dude, that matters about as much to me as how much my crap weighed yesterday
aftershock112r: i raced am minicarts b4 i left when i was 11
aftershock112r: yeah, you treat me as if i know nothing
Makoto seven: good for him and you, i'm sure it was fun
aftershock112r: you seem to know it all
aftershock112r: thats good
Makoto seven: actually you're doing all that my friend
aftershock112r: like i said, do it..then show me
aftershock112r: lol
aftershock112r: ok
Makoto seven: i know from everything i've read
aftershock112r: i know from beeing around them
Makoto seven: i used to be like you and think thej SR is god too till i started reading up on it dude
aftershock112r: from my experience with my dad SR20's have been more reliable than KA24's
Makoto seven: you think i just decided this on a whim?
aftershock112r: nah
Makoto seven: hell, do you think i decided to buy this car based on the same fickle urge?
aftershock112r: naw
Makoto seven: no dude, i got exactly what i wanted and as it stands the KA appears to be a hell of a lot tougher than the SR
aftershock112r: im just sayin man, dont treat me as if im stupid
aftershock112r: heh then great
aftershock112r: prove it to me
Makoto seven: how many cars do you see hitting 2500K?
Makoto seven: 250K*
Makoto seven: i'm not sayin your stupid
Makoto seven: i'm sayin you are wrong
Makoto seven:
Makoto seven: from my point of view anyhow
aftershock112r: i can take that man...but im just trying to defend my status, just like you are
Makoto seven: if thats insulting to you then fine, throw a fit
aftershock112r: but just another question, what do youy plan to do with this car?
Makoto seven: i just feel that you are incorrect in your view of the SR
Makoto seven: this whole conversation is kinda retarded anyhow
aftershock112r: whats the purpose, is it for drag? autocross, track, time attack?
Makoto seven: all of the above
aftershock112r: ok
aftershock112r: good luck with it
Makoto seven: i want to do time attack and track though
Makoto seven: drag is just something all of us have to do... lol
aftershock112r: yeah
Makoto seven: hey i'm a member of zilvia
Makoto seven: you should join
aftershock112r: naw man, thats ok
aftershock112r: im just a fan, not really hard core into it
Makoto seven: okay, you're missing out
Makoto seven: yeah, i realize that
aftershock112r: its just because my dad raced nissans
aftershock112r: fell in love with them ever since, they tough
aftershock112r: im into my trucks...maybe if i would have bought a car, it'd be diff
aftershock112r: heh
Makoto seven: i have and love both
Makoto seven: actually i love all things automotive
aftershock112r: but yea man,i really wasnt trying to down you...was just trying to defend my standpoint
Makoto seven: i'm starting to grow an affinity for bikes too
aftershock112r: heh yea
aftershock112r: heh...i liek bikes, just will not ride them
Makoto seven: seriously man, 7psi...
Makoto seven:
aftershock112r: but seriously, i was just defending my view....like i said, prove me wrong
Makoto seven: i want a buell

that's when he started yapping about all these bikes i didn't give a crap about so i said i had to go. yeah, i do realize that some of the actual numbers might have been off but that guy was probably creamin his panties at the thought of his god (er, i mean the SR).

just thought it might be funny to read. enjoy!

[mrmephistopheles]

i'm not reading all of that

[papershot]

Cliff notes?

[Pepperoni]

Cliff notes: KA24DE-T>SR20DET

[WilloW]

One of those KA vs. SR war again.^^^^

[240Stilo]

Yeah I'm not seeing how a KA-t will make 300hp on 7psi.

Originally Posted by WilloW

One of those KA vs. SR war again.^^^^

Hopefully not. I say give him one chance to explain himself and then lock if needed.

[420sx]

i say fuk dat faggot. snap dat bitch in the forhead with an empty mountain dew bowtle ho.


and all this coming from a truck guy.... stupid motherfucker....gee

[ZK]

Originally Posted by 240Stilo

Yeah I'm not seeing how a KA-t will make 300hp on 7psi.

Me neither... you better have one huge turbo to do that.

I always tend to stay the safe route, adding turbo to a non-turbo motor is asking for trouble. But a turbo engine, it runs just like from the factory - no worries. But then I don't care about making 300hp, I just want it to run good.

[Bbandit]

theres no way you can make 300rwtq at 7 psi...
Im at 7 psi right now and I dont even think i have 250rwtq.

[MakotoS13]

my point was that for my application it seems to be the better choice. i said my numbers weren't perfect and that the conversation was pretty retarded to begin with.

its jsut funny to me when people think you're insulting them when you're simply disagreeing.

hehe

p.s. never said RW tq either... i said tq... average drivetrain loss is 15% so 15% of 300 would be like 45? i think that's what we call a ballpark figure

[TheSparo]

haha i like the part where he is like how about the SR20, or even SR20DET... like they are two fucking different motors...

[old_s13]

rather than reading all that aimless chat bullshit.. lets change the topic onto something more important.

my customer sends me a picture of his car. i cropped out the car and focused on this instead:



enjoy!

[Brian]

yum.
i would like to span time with her.

[S14DB]

I don't understand these Mini-Truck guys. How a big ass truck equates to performance is beyond me.

[420sx]

i would like to Spank some time with her. uh and lotsa bang bang bang i dont want to know your name bang bang bang

[CreAziaN]

Originally Posted by old_s13

rather than reading all that aimless chat bullshit.. lets change the topic onto something more important.

my customer sends me a picture of his car. i cropped out the car and focused on this instead:



enjoy!

holy shit. We have a winner!

[knightrider]

thank you old_s13 for saving the thread, hahah

[Salty_X]

Originally Posted by old_s13

As much as that picture saves the thread, just looking at that chick can't help but remind me of this...

Originally Posted by old_s13

A great rapper once said "You're bitch dont really got no ass, she just POKED it out"

and there you have it folks, the difference between a girl with a NICE BIG ROUND ASS -- and a "whatever" mass-produced asian girl who wears fly gear, lots of make-up, shoes with tall heels and shorts/panties/whatever type of clothing to accentuate her ass because in reality, it does not exist.

Girls like the above are like Honda Civics with excessive amounts of modifications, fancy paint, really nice HRE wheels and high quality racing seats -- but the car itself, civic.. the chassis, civic. For some its great, but for me.. I need "more bounce to the ounce."

I'd still hit it though. Totally.

[MakotoS13]

that's probably the best tangent EVER in the history of any thread.

[old_s13]

hence the reason i am such a crucial part to being on this forum.

zilvia members come and go, but old_s13 is __forever__

ha

[sykikchimp]

HAHAHA.. I'm so torn... the aim conversation is slightly on topic, but the b00ty pic is way off topic..


Ahh...

It's close enough.

Nice b00tay!, and I think I lost a couple I.Q points reading that. It sounded like 2 ricers arguing over which Type-Arrrhh sticker makes their 'whip' fast..

[AKADriver]

Man... you don't want a Buell.

Thank you to old_s13 for saving this thread.

[kazuo]

Seriously.

KA POWER SR POWER FUK U U SUCK DICK ASS BISH ABNIME IS TEH S UCK LOLOLOLOL

Who cares, shut the fuck up and work on your car...

PS - Post more pics. Thanks.