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Dutchmalmiss · 07-30-2004, 07:42 PM

i know there are aftermarker side mounts out there and i've heard of people using an s15 side mount or a supra side mount. anyone have any tips on what would be the best bang for the buck without going front mount?

s14srpilot · 07-30-2004, 09:45 PM

I just put in an s15 sidemount in my s14. It bolted right in and my boost went from .5 bar to .8 bar. Runs great with no problems so far and the boost is nice. IIRC from what I've read the s15 smic is good for 300-320 whp.

Projekt_Sil80 · 07-31-2004, 01:02 AM

possibly getting a good deal on a ARC sidemount?

adey · 07-31-2004, 03:54 AM

Yeah, if you got a fucking great deal on an ARC (which usually cost BANK) that's what you should go for. Otherwise, I would probably suggest an S15 SMIC, which I hope is bigger than an S13 SMIC.

SilviaDriver · 07-31-2004, 02:13 PM

if ur reason of running a SMIC is to look stock...u can get a R33 front mount..its black and will hide good

Dutchmalmiss · 07-31-2004, 02:22 PM

hmm s15 smic and r33 fmic. how much harder will it be to get the r33 one? the s15 one?

The ROMAN · 07-31-2004, 03:57 PM

You could even get a aftermarket intercooler and top mount it if you're going for stealth.

Projekt_Sil80 · 07-31-2004, 10:25 PM

Yeah, like the V-Mount style from Signal Auto

Dutchmalmiss · 07-31-2004, 10:28 PM

yah but isn't there a lot of fabrication with that? i would have to get a different bumper, right? i want to retain the stock pignose

s14srpilot · 08-01-2004, 02:13 AM

the only reason i got the s15 smic is because i found it by chance and it was in perfect condition. the s15 smic is about 1/2" thicker than the s14 smic so yes it's more efficient but a front mount is still much more efficient. I hear the arc smic goes for around $1000 so u might as well go front mount for that money. I got my s15 smic with all the piping for $150

SirWarrior · 08-01-2004, 03:00 AM

ARC FMIC is in that price range, not the SMIC

**mrmephistopheles** · 08-01-2004, 03:07 AM

new ARC sidemount is ~$450 iirc.. it's been awhile since i checked.

bkfill · 08-01-2004, 03:57 AM

what do you think about DSM Firstgen SMICs?

kazuo · 08-01-2004, 05:42 AM

ARC = TOP

I have one.

S15's are not bad... you dont need the pipings, you can just unbolt the endtank pipings or whatever from your S13/14 SMIC and bolt them onto the S15 so it'll line up good and all. Or so it appears. I haven't tried it. But if not, get some hoses from home depot. Total cost = $2

Oh and I have a S15 SMIC for sale if anyone's interested... PM me

Nissandriver714 · 08-01-2004, 01:10 PM

so how much horsepower can the S15 SMIC support up to? And anyone know if it bolts up to the stock s13 IC piping or something needs to be modified?

driftgrl180 · 08-01-2004, 09:15 PM

S15 SMIC ( like most others on this site have said... u can find it 4 sale on ebay.com

driftgrl180 · 08-01-2004, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilviaDriver

if ur reason of running a SMIC is to look stock...u can get a R33 front mount..its black and will hide good

will the r33 FMIC fit on a s13 ?

s14srpilot · 08-01-2004, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazuo

ARC = TOP

I have one.

S15's are not bad... you dont need the pipings, you can just unbolt the endtank pipings or whatever from your S13/14 SMIC and bolt them onto the S15 so it'll line up good and all. Or so it appears. I haven't tried it. But if not, get some hoses from home depot. Total cost = $2

Oh and I have a S15 SMIC for sale if anyone's interested... PM me

The s15 piping is the same as the s14 piping. It bolts right up

AlexAtPerformanceNissan · 08-01-2004, 09:56 PM

I would say go with a fmic, but you can paint it black using specialty radiator spraypaint in order to keep it low profile..... a company called eastwood makes this spray and it's cheap for all the headache it could save ya. linky below.
Linky

-Alex B.

Ghettokracker71 · 08-06-2004, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftgrl180

will the r33 FMIC fit on a s13 ?

A guy on the board by the name of "stumpz" has one on his S13,hes got the Silvia projectors. You can't even see it through the grill

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nissandriver714

so how much horsepower can the S15 SMIC support up to? And anyone know if it bolts up to the stock s13 IC piping or something needs to be modified?

Yeah,I'd be interested in knowing what kind of boost you can run with the S15 SMIC and what is involved in mounting it,as well.

I tried finding an ARC SMIC for sale online,but no such luck from any engrish sites. (Yes there is one on the boards for sale,but it'll be gone before my cash is available)

Gladman · 08-06-2004, 05:34 PM

90-94 DSM sidemount will be by far your best dollar value side mount.

Good for 300+hp, usually costs less than $20, cut 1 hole on an S13 and it bolts right on.

mjjstang · 08-06-2004, 06:23 PM

how much hp and boost do you think the smaller arc fmic is good for. debating whether or not to go fmic or smic.

nipplepinch666 · 08-08-2004, 08:11 AM

I am currently using a 1g dsm sidemount. I am very pleased. It's core dimensions are 4" thick x6x8. On my s14 I did not have to cut any holes on the drivers side, I just had pipes going into the hole in the side and went down beside the fender.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gladman

90-94 DSM sidemount will be by far your best dollar value side mount.

Good for 300+hp, usually costs less than $20, cut 1 hole on an S13 and it bolts right on.

Ghettokracker71 · 08-08-2004, 11:10 AM

I geuss it would help if I knew where the OEM SMIC actually goes

I'm going SR soon and have a high powered stereo,so slim-line battery is not an option nor do I want to relocate my battery(for now) so I'm trying to get the best SMIC for the money b/c I don't know how long I'll be runnning it.

s0ldats · 08-08-2004, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71

I geuss it would help if I knew where the OEM SMIC actually goes

I'm going SR soon and have a high powered stereo,so slim-line battery is not an option nor do I want to relocate my battery(for now) so I'm trying to get the best SMIC for the money b/c I don't know how long I'll be runnning it.

Side Mount Intercooler

on the side inside the left fender.

Ghettokracker71 · 08-08-2004, 11:27 AM

I knw it was on the side,just didn't know WHERE hah hah...

Okay,where the OEM KA resonator goes down into a little open well on the drivers side ?

Shit I hate sounding like a noobie

Pepperoni · 08-08-2004, 12:10 PM

^ Yup basically mounts where the KA resonator used to be.

Ghettokracker71 · 08-08-2004, 12:34 PM

Thanks I appreciate it!

Now I'm trying to firgure out....S15 SMIC Vs. 1G SMIC lol

I can't find any S15 ones for sale

kazuo · 08-08-2004, 01:07 PM

The S15 IC bolts up to S14 SR piping. S13 SR will require you to swap endtanks with the S13 intercooler. (They unbolt)

ARC IC is superior to the S15 intercooler as the dimensions are slightly larger AND it flows more air (the ARC is practically a bar & plate design).

The ARC IC can do 300HP easy, I'm notsure about the S15 one, but I would venture to guess it would come close... I wouldn't run more than a bar on either one though, thats just me being paranoid...

R32/33 FMIC will fit our cars but you need custom piping (duh)... and the ICs are not easy to get/are pricey unless you know people in Japan... its a very popular upgrade.

For those who are interested, I do have a S15 IC for sale... buy it from me

skatanic28 · 08-08-2004, 01:50 PM

im startin to think an smic would be the best way for me to go too.
im planning on running low boost and dont really want to drop much cash on a big front mount. ive seen a lot of the dsm sidemounts up on ebay for not too much. they all flow alrite and fit ok?

anyone know the inlet/outlet size on the s15?

07-30-2004, 07:42 PM	#1
Dutchmalmiss Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Socal (323) Age: 39 Posts: 3,501 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	what's the best SMIC? i know there are aftermarker side mounts out there and i've heard of people using an s15 side mount or a supra side mount. anyone have any tips on what would be the best bang for the buck without going front mount? __________________ Pignose, biaaatch.

07-31-2004, 01:02 AM	#3
Projekt_Sil80 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hawaii/Arizona Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	possibly getting a good deal on a ARC sidemount? __________________ '93 Eclipse GS-T- Stolen '89 Fastback- R.I.P. (Totaled) '91 Fastback- Redtop SR20DET, Boosting Again! '89 2tone Coupe- Daily Driver, SR20 Coming Soon.

07-31-2004, 03:54 AM	#4
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, if you got a fucking great deal on an ARC (which usually cost BANK) that's what you should go for. Otherwise, I would probably suggest an S15 SMIC, which I hope is bigger than an S13 SMIC. __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

07-31-2004, 02:22 PM	#6
Dutchmalmiss Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Socal (323) Age: 39 Posts: 3,501 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	hmm s15 smic and r33 fmic. how much harder will it be to get the r33 one? the s15 one? __________________ Pignose, biaaatch.

07-31-2004, 10:25 PM	#8
Projekt_Sil80 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hawaii/Arizona Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, like the V-Mount style from Signal Auto __________________ '93 Eclipse GS-T- Stolen '89 Fastback- R.I.P. (Totaled) '91 Fastback- Redtop SR20DET, Boosting Again! '89 2tone Coupe- Daily Driver, SR20 Coming Soon.

07-30-2004, 09:45 PM	#2
s14srpilot BANNED Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern CA Posts: 324 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just put in an s15 sidemount in my s14. It bolted right in and my boost went from .5 bar to .8 bar. Runs great with no problems so far and the boost is nice. IIRC from what I've read the s15 smic is good for 300-320 whp.

07-31-2004, 02:13 PM	#5
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 40 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	if ur reason of running a SMIC is to look stock...u can get a R33 front mount..its black and will hide good

07-31-2004, 03:57 PM	#7
The ROMAN Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NJ Age: 42 Posts: 730 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	You could even get a aftermarket intercooler and top mount it if you're going for stealth.

07-31-2004, 10:28 PM	#9
Dutchmalmiss Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Socal (323) Age: 39 Posts: 3,501 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	yah but isn't there a lot of fabrication with that? i would have to get a different bumper, right? i want to retain the stock pignose __________________ Pignose, biaaatch.

08-01-2004, 02:13 AM	#10
s14srpilot BANNED Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern CA Posts: 324 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the only reason i got the s15 smic is because i found it by chance and it was in perfect condition. the s15 smic is about 1/2" thicker than the s14 smic so yes it's more efficient but a front mount is still much more efficient. I hear the arc smic goes for around $1000 so u might as well go front mount for that money. I got my s15 smic with all the piping for $150

08-01-2004, 03:00 AM	#11
SirWarrior Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 762 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ARC FMIC is in that price range, not the SMIC __________________ 92 FastBack - Project 98 SE - Daily Driver

08-01-2004, 03:07 AM	#12
mrmephistopheles Magnanimous Justice Distribution Service Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 23 Posts: 14,372 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	new ARC sidemount is ~$450 iirc.. it's been awhile since i checked.

08-01-2004, 03:57 AM	#13
bkfill Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: brooklyn, ny Posts: 320 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	what do you think about DSM Firstgen SMICs? __________________ if it aint broken, fix it(95 240/96 sr20)

08-01-2004, 05:42 AM	#14
kazuo Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Posts: 2,762 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	ARC = TOP I have one. S15's are not bad... you dont need the pipings, you can just unbolt the endtank pipings or whatever from your S13/14 SMIC and bolt them onto the S15 so it'll line up good and all. Or so it appears. I haven't tried it. But if not, get some hoses from home depot. Total cost = $2 Oh and I have a S15 SMIC for sale if anyone's interested... PM me

08-01-2004, 01:10 PM	#15
Nissandriver714 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Only in Socal Posts: 201 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so how much horsepower can the S15 SMIC support up to? And anyone know if it bolts up to the stock s13 IC piping or something needs to be modified?

08-01-2004, 09:15 PM	#16
driftgrl180 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose, California Age: 41 Posts: 26 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S15 SMIC ( like most others on this site have said... u can find it 4 sale on ebay.com

08-01-2004, 09:56 PM	#19
AlexAtPerformanceNissan Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Duarte, SoCal Posts: 91 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would say go with a fmic, but you can paint it black using specialty radiator spraypaint in order to keep it low profile..... a company called eastwood makes this spray and it's cheap for all the headache it could save ya. linky below. Linky -Alex B. __________________ PERFORMANCE NISSAN AIM: NeedsMoSpeed MyNismo.com

08-06-2004, 05:34 PM	#21
Gladman Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vancouver Age: 39 Posts: 287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	90-94 DSM sidemount will be by far your best dollar value side mount. Good for 300+hp, usually costs less than $20, cut 1 hole on an S13 and it bolts right on. __________________ Kick Ass 2.4Liter Engine!

08-06-2004, 06:23 PM	#22
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	how much hp and boost do you think the smaller arc fmic is good for. debating whether or not to go fmic or smic. __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

08-08-2004, 11:10 AM	#24
Ghettokracker71 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Don't look now... Age: 38 Posts: 3,327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I geuss it would help if I knew where the OEM SMIC actually goes I'm going SR soon and have a high powered stereo,so slim-line battery is not an option nor do I want to relocate my battery(for now) so I'm trying to get the best SMIC for the money b/c I don't know how long I'll be runnning it.

08-08-2004, 11:27 AM	#26
Ghettokracker71 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Don't look now... Age: 38 Posts: 3,327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I knw it was on the side,just didn't know WHERE hah hah... Okay,where the OEM KA resonator goes down into a little open well on the drivers side ? Shit I hate sounding like a noobie

08-08-2004, 12:10 PM	#27
Pepperoni Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: norcal Posts: 750 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ Yup basically mounts where the KA resonator used to be. __________________ Turbo piping, Intakes and More: http://www.pipingpro.com

08-08-2004, 12:34 PM	#28
Ghettokracker71 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Don't look now... Age: 38 Posts: 3,327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks I appreciate it! Now I'm trying to firgure out....S15 SMIC Vs. 1G SMIC lol I can't find any S15 ones for sale

08-08-2004, 01:07 PM	#29
kazuo Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Posts: 2,762 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The S15 IC bolts up to S14 SR piping. S13 SR will require you to swap endtanks with the S13 intercooler. (They unbolt) ARC IC is superior to the S15 intercooler as the dimensions are slightly larger AND it flows more air (the ARC is practically a bar & plate design). The ARC IC can do 300HP easy, I'm notsure about the S15 one, but I would venture to guess it would come close... I wouldn't run more than a bar on either one though, thats just me being paranoid... R32/33 FMIC will fit our cars but you need custom piping (duh)... and the ICs are not easy to get/are pricey unless you know people in Japan... its a very popular upgrade. For those who are interested, I do have a S15 IC for sale... buy it from me

08-08-2004, 01:50 PM	#30
skatanic28 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Age: 41 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im startin to think an smic would be the best way for me to go too. im planning on running low boost and dont really want to drop much cash on a big front mount. ive seen a lot of the dsm sidemounts up on ebay for not too much. they all flow alrite and fit ok? anyone know the inlet/outlet size on the s15?