Will 205/50/15 Falken Azenis mount on a 15x8 rim? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

gogeeta13 · 10-25-2004, 01:44 PM

I know 205 can go 8" no problem usually...

I ask because the azenis have a stiffer sidewall and a shorter sidewall(50) compared to a usual 205/60 tire which is stretched.

Any ideas??

KiDyNomiTe · 10-25-2004, 01:49 PM

Yes but stretched azenis are kinda dumb IMO, IIRC Ben Schwarts has like 215s or 225s on a 9.

andrave · 10-25-2004, 02:16 PM

they will mount, but.. why?
that will be a pretty hella stetch, your rims will get dented if you hit a stone in the road...
but I don't think it will matter, because I don't know any tire shop that would mount a 205/50 azenis on an 8" rim. The place that did mine (on a 7" rim) bitched at me and said it was damn near impossible to get them on.

240silvia · 10-25-2004, 02:55 PM

Yep, it will mount, but it will suck. Just about any tire will mount on a rim. I've seen a 275/40/17 on a 7.5 rim, looked like crap, but it mounted. Why do you want such a small tire? Get a tire that will fit flush with the rim, 215.... 225... You will be much happier.

rancid240 · 10-25-2004, 03:32 PM

I would only stretch if you needed it for clearance. Otherwise its kinda ricer....

240silvia · 10-25-2004, 03:40 PM

There ya go, very good suggestion.

gogeeta13 · 10-25-2004, 03:41 PM

it's because these are 15x8 -33 wheels that will need tires stretch to clear rear fender...

unless someone can recommend another tire that grips as well as azenis and comes in wider sizes for 15"....

gogeeta13 · 10-25-2004, 03:42 PM

and this is for my race whore 240, so streetability is not the issue..

240silvia · 10-25-2004, 03:46 PM

All about what you want and how you are going to use it. Should of included it in the post, that way you would of gotten more "exact" answers.

drftwerks · 10-25-2004, 04:12 PM

um -33???

any pics?

rancid240 · 10-25-2004, 05:20 PM

do it then.
its not like your running a 195 on it.....

Rennen · 10-25-2004, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gogeeta13

and this is for my race whore 240, so streetability is not the issue..

get race whore tires... that actually fit

or even better, send me the 15x8s and I will send you my stock alloys that I know 205/50 azenis fit on

gogeeta13 · 10-25-2004, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rennen

get race whore tires... that actually fit

or even better, send me the 15x8s and I will send you my stock alloys that I know 205/50 azenis fit on

the azenis are mounted on SE 7 spokes already.

i am not looking to get R compounds that are too pricey for me to afford. I have run on my azenis on the stock rims and they are great tires, so I see no need to change....

My wheel config is 15x7 +0 front 15x8 -33 rear

RBS14 · 10-25-2004, 07:19 PM

there is no way 15x8 -33 wheels are gonna fit under your stock fender ayways. You will have to do widebody first, in which case 8" wide wheels are a joke. you wern't thinking they'd fit under stock fenders did you? hahaha

Here's 16x8 -6 on my S14. despite what it looks like, camber is -2.

bing · 10-25-2004, 07:25 PM

205 azenis will be fine on an 8 wide rim.

http://forums.son240sx.ca/album_pic.php?pic_id=226

205/55/16 on a 16 x 8

that doesnt look very stretched to me... it sat better than the goodyear RS-A 225's i had on there before actually.

STFU to people who bash things they havent ever done.

phrozen · 10-25-2004, 10:00 PM

the wheels he has im guessing are eagle alloy 5 spokes 4lug. go to eagle wheels website they have pics on there and also driftaholic has them and posted them mounted on a old thread. they stick out about 4 inches past the rear fender if i remember correctly. rivit over fenders is the only way and would look pretty nice on a fastback

andrave · 10-25-2004, 11:32 PM

why do you want azenis if it is strictly a track car? azenis are good for real stick driver that autocrosses or maybe autocross tires if you don't want max grip and want a cheap tire to last all season.
I'd say for a track car that gets driven to the track, toyo proxes RA1's.. I have a set and I love them, grip all the way down to the cords...
For a straight out track car... hoosier has several tires that would be more appropriate.

KiDyNomiTe · 10-26-2004, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bing

http://forums.son240sx.ca/album_pic.php?pic_id=226

205/55/16 on a 16 x 8

that doesnt look very stretched to me... it sat better than the goodyear RS-A 225's i had on there before actually.

Yes they do, get a side shot and you'll be able to really tell.

Now that you say they are going in the rear, you are not gonna fit them unless you do the cut and pull method of rolling fenders and pull them a lot.

240silvia · 10-26-2004, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrave

why do you want azenis if it is strictly a track car?

I think that he was saying that the Azenis are already on his alloys, so he will just be transfering tires..... right?

gogeeta13 · 10-26-2004, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240silvia

I think that he was saying that the Azenis are already on his alloys, so he will just be transfering tires..... right?

correct, i will just transfer them for the time being. that time being until i can afford race rubber....

can ANYBODY tell me if i would be better off with a 205/50 azenis or a 225/50 AVS100? This is in terms of actual grip.

KoukiMonster · 10-26-2004, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiDyNomiTe

Yes they do, get a side shot and you'll be able to really tell.

Now that you say they are going in the rear, you are not gonna fit them unless you do the cut and pull method of rolling fenders and pull them a lot.

well thats funny, because that is a picture from his ACTUAL car dude.

RBS14 · 10-26-2004, 11:48 AM

gogetta: you still don't get it do you? If you are really going for maximum grip, you wouldn't be using an 8" wide wheel in the first place, especially one that is gonna stick out 2".

gogeeta13 · 10-26-2004, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBS14

gogetta: you still don't get it do you? If you are really going for maximum grip, you wouldn't be using an 8" wide wheel in the first place, especially one that is gonna stick out 2".

i am trying to this on a college student budget! lol

I would love to do a 5lug conversion or get diamond racing wheels in the right size and nice and wide. I am sticking with 15s because the tires are cheaper.

I have pretty much counted out the 15x8 -30 because I dont want to deal with flares and huge negative camber.

that being said, if I had normal fitting 15x8s; how would 225/50 avs100 compare to 205 azenis?

RBS14 · 10-26-2004, 12:46 PM

ok, glad you figured it out. that being said, I'd still bet that the azenis would offer more traction than es100's, even though the yokohmas's are wider. Azenis are incredible tires.

Rennen · 10-26-2004, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gogeeta13

i am trying to this on a college student budget! lol

If you really want to do it on a budget, now is the perfect time to get to know some racers. Go to lots of events and hang out with the people with money, make some friends, help change tires, etc. Then when their racing season is over, and they have partially used Rs laying around offer to take them off their hands.

I have obtained free Azenis, free and delivered Kumho ECSTA V700, and 75% new Yokohama Advan A032R S for $10.

My advice, from one poor college student to another, is to sell those wheels to some driftaz who will pay absurd amounts of money for anything with a lip on it, and then use the money to get real tires. Grip is more important than offset/looks

-Matt

gogeeta13 · 10-26-2004, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rennen

If you really want to do it on a budget, now is the perfect time to get to know some racers. Go to lots of events and hang out with the people with money, make some friends, help change tires, etc. Then when their racing season is over, and they have partially used Rs laying around offer to take them off their hands.

I have obtained free Azenis, free and delivered Kumho ECSTA V700, and 75% new Yokohama Advan A032R S for $10.

My advice, from one poor college student to another, is to sell those wheels to some driftaz who will pay absurd amounts of money for anything with a lip on it, and then use the money to get real tires. Grip is more important than offset/looks

-Matt

That is good advice.

Problem is, I have a season ahead of me of both auto-x and HPDEs and I need to get my setup for now figuared out....

I was looking into the 15x8 -33 because of wider wheel base(better handling) and coilover clearance, not looks or flushness....

andrave · 10-26-2004, 09:18 PM

yeah I did that too, got free toyo proxes. stick around the porsche cup guys, they always seem to replace their tires at 50% tread life.

the honda cup guys always seem to run theirs to the cords. why do you think THAT is?

10-25-2004, 01:44 PM	#1
gogeeta13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 202 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Will 205/50/15 Falken Azenis mount on a 15x8 rim? I know 205 can go 8" no problem usually... I ask because the azenis have a stiffer sidewall and a shorter sidewall(50) compared to a usual 205/60 tire which is stretched. Any ideas?? __________________ 1996 Maxima 5 speed 1993 Altima SE ------------------------- 1993 240sx Base - SOLD [Blacktop and such] 1992 240sx Base - SOLD [Road Race/Auto X Beast] 1993 240sx Hicas - SOLD 2001 Xterra SE V6 4x4 5 speed - SOLD

10-25-2004, 01:49 PM	#2
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 38 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes but stretched azenis are kinda dumb IMO, IIRC Ben Schwarts has like 215s or 225s on a 9. __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

10-25-2004, 02:55 PM	#4
240silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington NC Age: 40 Posts: 2,060 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Yep, it will mount, but it will suck. Just about any tire will mount on a rim. I've seen a 275/40/17 on a 7.5 rim, looked like crap, but it mounted. Why do you want such a small tire? Get a tire that will fit flush with the rim, 215.... 225... You will be much happier. Last edited by 240silvia; 10-26-2004 at 12:52 AM..

10-25-2004, 03:41 PM	#7
gogeeta13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 202 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it's because these are 15x8 -33 wheels that will need tires stretch to clear rear fender... unless someone can recommend another tire that grips as well as azenis and comes in wider sizes for 15".... __________________ 1996 Maxima 5 speed 1993 Altima SE ------------------------- 1993 240sx Base - SOLD [Blacktop and such] 1992 240sx Base - SOLD [Road Race/Auto X Beast] 1993 240sx Hicas - SOLD 2001 Xterra SE V6 4x4 5 speed - SOLD

10-25-2004, 03:42 PM	#8
gogeeta13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 202 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	and this is for my race whore 240, so streetability is not the issue.. __________________ 1996 Maxima 5 speed 1993 Altima SE ------------------------- 1993 240sx Base - SOLD [Blacktop and such] 1992 240sx Base - SOLD [Road Race/Auto X Beast] 1993 240sx Hicas - SOLD 2001 Xterra SE V6 4x4 5 speed - SOLD

10-25-2004, 02:16 PM	#3
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	they will mount, but.. why? that will be a pretty hella stetch, your rims will get dented if you hit a stone in the road... but I don't think it will matter, because I don't know any tire shop that would mount a 205/50 azenis on an 8" rim. The place that did mine (on a 7" rim) bitched at me and said it was damn near impossible to get them on.

10-25-2004, 03:32 PM	#5
rancid240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Irvine CA Posts: 2,770 Trader Rating: (72) Feedback Score: 72 reviews	I would only stretch if you needed it for clearance. Otherwise its kinda ricer....

10-25-2004, 03:40 PM	#6
240silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington NC Age: 40 Posts: 2,060 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	There ya go, very good suggestion.

10-25-2004, 03:46 PM	#9
240silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington NC Age: 40 Posts: 2,060 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	All about what you want and how you are going to use it. Should of included it in the post, that way you would of gotten more "exact" answers.

10-25-2004, 04:12 PM	#10
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	um -33??? any pics? __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

10-25-2004, 05:20 PM	#11
rancid240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Irvine CA Posts: 2,770 Trader Rating: (72) Feedback Score: 72 reviews	do it then. its not like your running a 195 on it.....

10-25-2004, 07:19 PM	#14
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	there is no way 15x8 -33 wheels are gonna fit under your stock fender ayways. You will have to do widebody first, in which case 8" wide wheels are a joke. you wern't thinking they'd fit under stock fenders did you? hahaha Here's 16x8 -6 on my S14. despite what it looks like, camber is -2. __________________

10-25-2004, 07:25 PM	#15
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	205 azenis will be fine on an 8 wide rim. http://forums.son240sx.ca/album_pic.php?pic_id=226 205/55/16 on a 16 x 8 that doesnt look very stretched to me... it sat better than the goodyear RS-A 225's i had on there before actually. STFU to people who bash things they havent ever done. __________________ www.son240sx.org /// www.nyspeed.com

10-25-2004, 10:00 PM	#16
phrozen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,352 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the wheels he has im guessing are eagle alloy 5 spokes 4lug. go to eagle wheels website they have pics on there and also driftaholic has them and posted them mounted on a old thread. they stick out about 4 inches past the rear fender if i remember correctly. rivit over fenders is the only way and would look pretty nice on a fastback __________________ This box is 400x200: Please do not put your sig pic back if it exceeds this. -Moderation

10-25-2004, 11:32 PM	#17
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why do you want azenis if it is strictly a track car? azenis are good for real stick driver that autocrosses or maybe autocross tires if you don't want max grip and want a cheap tire to last all season. I'd say for a track car that gets driven to the track, toyo proxes RA1's.. I have a set and I love them, grip all the way down to the cords... For a straight out track car... hoosier has several tires that would be more appropriate.

10-26-2004, 11:48 AM	#22
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	gogetta: you still don't get it do you? If you are really going for maximum grip, you wouldn't be using an 8" wide wheel in the first place, especially one that is gonna stick out 2". __________________

10-26-2004, 12:46 PM	#24
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok, glad you figured it out. that being said, I'd still bet that the azenis would offer more traction than es100's, even though the yokohmas's are wider. Azenis are incredible tires. __________________

10-26-2004, 09:18 PM	#27
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah I did that too, got free toyo proxes. stick around the porsche cup guys, they always seem to replace their tires at 50% tread life. the honda cup guys always seem to run theirs to the cords. why do you think THAT is?