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nlzmo400r · 09-20-2004, 01:27 PM

i am preparing to buy timing chain guides on my 93 KaDe. I am going to remove the upper timing chain guide, and replace the lower one. Where should i buy the parts so that i get a good price and get the right parts the FIRST time?

Dousan_PG · 09-20-2004, 01:40 PM

you DONT replace them
nissan dosent make them anymore
iirc, 97/98 dont even have them stock

its useless and there was recall? i forget..check search mode on Freshalloy.com

but you remove them and move on
they are useless.

aznpoopy · 09-20-2004, 02:47 PM

yesh and yesh. why would you remove the one of the top ones and replace the one under the front cover? you remove both of those, period.

maybe he was talking about the 'actual' lower timing guide - iirc theres a third one on the bottom that you actually need.

nlzmo400r · 09-21-2004, 09:32 AM

i know the very top one between teh cams is uneeded. However there is an 'upper' one that is off to the right that is needed and keeps tension on the chain. I think this is bad and is causing the clanking in my engine bay. I want to replace it to regain tension on my timing chain. I was just curios who sells these as kits perhaps for the best price.

aznpoopy · 09-21-2004, 09:50 AM

no no...

ok there are actually 3 timing chain guides...

#1 between the cams, remove
#2 to the right, under the front timing cover, remove
#3 NEEDED - on the bottom of the engine, opposite the chain tensioner arm (helps with the tensioning)

if you are trying to replace #3, you might as well do the full timing chain job.

iirc the timing chain guide has two tensioners. one is on the top left next to #2 guide and one is on the bottom opposite #3 guide. to be honest i'm not really versed in this but i recall reading that its oil pressure sensitive, meaning if you have low oil pressure you could get a slack chain. also the top tensioner can freeze up from gunk if the previous owners didnt change the oil regularly, so clean that off if it looks frozen. before you do anything, check your oil... are you leaking? could be as simple as filling her up.

240sx.org has some more info on it in FAQs. in there you can find info on pricing for kits / buying components seperately. in my experience everythingnissan.com typically has good prices on OEM parts.

MurdarioStomp · 09-21-2004, 10:13 AM

try this...

Andrew Bohan · 09-21-2004, 10:26 AM

SR parts! brilliant! those will work perfectly on his KA!

Silvia_Fanatic · 10-24-2004, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

you DONT replace them
nissan dosent make them anymore
iirc, 97/98 dont even have them stock

its useless and there was recall? i forget..check search mode on Freshalloy.com

but you remove them and move on
they are useless.

I have heard some rattling in my engine and did a search on the timing chain guide problems. I have a 97 and I am wondering if that statement in bold print above is true.

240trainee · 10-24-2004, 07:02 AM

Does this taking off of the guides apply to the SOHC engine as well. the timing chain rattles in my new car, and it is driving me crazy.

tastyratz · 10-24-2004, 09:34 AM

im curious as i have a sohc too and i havent cracked the valve cover open yet so I dont even know what her guts look like at the moment...

**Phlip** · 10-24-2004, 10:42 AM

Check www.courtesyparts.com, when I had the upper timing chain problem with my 95, I checked there to see what I would need or what would come in the kit and they EXPRESSLY state what guides are no longer needed in the kit, suggesting that you remove them before going forward, to see if that rectifies your problem. I removed the uppermost and it cured my problem... I don't know if this applies to SOHC models.

projectRDM · 10-24-2004, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvia_Fanatic

I have heard some rattling in my engine and did a search on the timing chain guide problems. I have a 97 and I am wondering if that statement in bold print above is true.

It's true. All 97+ KA motors no longer used them.

phrozen · 10-24-2004, 06:23 PM

hate to break the good news to you but u dont need em...

**Phlip** · 10-24-2004, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phrozen

hate to break the good news to you but u dont need em...

Cool, because you weren't the one to break the news

**Phlip** · 10-24-2004, 06:54 PM

I tried not to have to do the work, but I am being a post whore now, I went in and looked for the link to the information I stated earlier today in this very thread about courtesyparts.com and the information they provide:

http://www.courtesyparts.com/S13_DOHC-TBKIT.html

... you're WELCOME bitches.

09-21-2004, 10:13 AM	#6
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10-24-2004, 09:34 AM	#10
tastyratz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: nh Posts: 995 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	im curious as i have a sohc too and i havent cracked the valve cover open yet so I dont even know what her guts look like at the moment... __________________

10-24-2004, 10:42 AM	#11
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Check www.courtesyparts.com, when I had the upper timing chain problem with my 95, I checked there to see what I would need or what would come in the kit and they EXPRESSLY state what guides are no longer needed in the kit, suggesting that you remove them before going forward, to see if that rectifies your problem. I removed the uppermost and it cured my problem... I don't know if this applies to SOHC models. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

10-24-2004, 06:23 PM	#13
phrozen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,352 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hate to break the good news to you but u dont need em... __________________ This box is 400x200: Please do not put your sig pic back if it exceeds this. -Moderation

10-24-2004, 06:54 PM	#15
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I tried not to have to do the work, but I am being a post whore now, I went in and looked for the link to the information I stated earlier today in this very thread about courtesyparts.com and the information they provide: http://www.courtesyparts.com/S13_DOHC-TBKIT.html ... you're WELCOME bitches. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

09-20-2004, 01:27 PM	#1
nlzmo400r Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: louisiana Posts: 1,248 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	where to buy timing chain guides? i am preparing to buy timing chain guides on my 93 KaDe. I am going to remove the upper timing chain guide, and replace the lower one. Where should i buy the parts so that i get a good price and get the right parts the FIRST time?

09-20-2004, 01:40 PM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	you DONT replace them nissan dosent make them anymore iirc, 97/98 dont even have them stock its useless and there was recall? i forget..check search mode on Freshalloy.com but you remove them and move on they are useless. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

09-20-2004, 02:47 PM	#3
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yesh and yesh. why would you remove the one of the top ones and replace the one under the front cover? you remove both of those, period. maybe he was talking about the 'actual' lower timing guide - iirc theres a third one on the bottom that you actually need.

09-21-2004, 09:32 AM	#4
nlzmo400r Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: louisiana Posts: 1,248 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i know the very top one between teh cams is uneeded. However there is an 'upper' one that is off to the right that is needed and keeps tension on the chain. I think this is bad and is causing the clanking in my engine bay. I want to replace it to regain tension on my timing chain. I was just curios who sells these as kits perhaps for the best price.

09-21-2004, 09:50 AM	#5
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	no no... ok there are actually 3 timing chain guides... #1 between the cams, remove #2 to the right, under the front timing cover, remove #3 NEEDED - on the bottom of the engine, opposite the chain tensioner arm (helps with the tensioning) if you are trying to replace #3, you might as well do the full timing chain job. iirc the timing chain guide has two tensioners. one is on the top left next to #2 guide and one is on the bottom opposite #3 guide. to be honest i'm not really versed in this but i recall reading that its oil pressure sensitive, meaning if you have low oil pressure you could get a slack chain. also the top tensioner can freeze up from gunk if the previous owners didnt change the oil regularly, so clean that off if it looks frozen. before you do anything, check your oil... are you leaking? could be as simple as filling her up. 240sx.org has some more info on it in FAQs. in there you can find info on pricing for kits / buying components seperately. in my experience everythingnissan.com typically has good prices on OEM parts.

09-21-2004, 10:26 AM	#7
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	SR parts! brilliant! those will work perfectly on his KA!

10-24-2004, 07:02 AM	#9
240trainee Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 38 Posts: 3,861 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Does this taking off of the guides apply to the SOHC engine as well. the timing chain rattles in my new car, and it is driving me crazy.