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jedc · 11-02-2004, 10:25 AM

I have a 98' automatic motor that I am putting in my 5speed S13. I am trying to remove the brass ring where the pilot bearing would go..this ring is not found on 5speed cars. I've tried a slide hammer but it doesn't have anything to really grip onto..If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them...I want to get my s13 on the road =(

jedc · 11-02-2004, 10:27 AM

*Jeff240sx* · 11-02-2004, 10:31 AM

WTF is that? Why did you post a picture??
You need a pilot bearing removal tool, and a slide hammer. Then you need to get in behind the bearing, and open that tool up as much as possible. Like have a friend open it with a wrench while you hold. Then use the slide hammer. If that really doesn't work (and it does), you can use a pipe wrench. I don't suggest it.
And 5-speed cars do have the pilot bearing, but it's shorter. You need to install a manual pilot bearing after removing the automatic one.
-Jeff

Eternal_240Sx · 11-02-2004, 10:33 AM

Are you talking about the donut ring right at the edge of the crankshaft? On my SR I had a problem with grip too, but what i did is use the hammer but dont slide the hammer too hard or it will keep slipping. Keep it as small tapping hits. Mine came right out.

jedc · 11-02-2004, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff240sx

WTF is that? Why did you post a picture??
You need a pilot bearing removal tool, and a slide hammer. Then you need to get in behind the bearing, and open that tool up as much as possible. Like have a friend open it with a wrench while you hold. Then use the slide hammer. If that really doesn't work (and it does), you can use a pipe wrench. I don't suggest it.
And 5-speed cars do have the pilot bearing, but it's shorter. You need to install a manual pilot bearing after removing the automatic one.
-Jeff

I posted the picture so you could see what the fuck I was talking about..

What I highlighted wasn't the pilot bearing--the pilot bearing goes inside of that brass ring. There is little, if any, grooves inside of that ring and a slide hammer can't catch them..

I tried a pipe wrench but that didn't work either..

TheSnail · 11-02-2004, 10:43 PM

Just like Jeff said. Use a Slide hammer. Not slide the hammer, what ever that means. For a slide hammer, you can get the peice for the end that is a three peice hook. My friend just got his out from using that, and the last one he and his friend did, they did not have the tool so they tack-welded a piece of metal to it, yanked it out (that worked well to).

jedc · 11-05-2004, 08:17 PM

Guys, I really need your help. I tried using the slide hammer with the pilot bearing remover and there is only a tiny lip for it to grab. Mine wouldn't really grab at all after tightening it as much as I could with wrenches. For clarification I am not removing the pilot bearing, it's the donut ring thing that only automatics have on the end of the crank. Since I couldn't get the slide hammer to work I sawzalled some slits in it to try and knock it with a flathead or something but that wouldn't work either. Anyone have suggestions? I couldn't find any other tools at autozone that would do the job with the slide hammer either.

syco3d · 11-06-2004, 04:57 PM

My post was a bunch of crap, and I couldn't remove it, so this is what u get.

270R · 11-07-2004, 09:02 AM

Try using grease, a bolt the size of the pilot bearing and a hamma...er..

then eyyyy

*crioten* · 11-07-2004, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff240sx

WTF is that? Why did you post a picture??

ummm yeah...wtf is that a picture of? it just looks like some random 3d object found on the net lol

jedc · 11-07-2004, 09:19 AM

I tried the grease trick many times. It was a picture of the automatic pilot converter.

270R · 11-07-2004, 09:24 AM

I tried ...lol

hehe

270R · 11-07-2004, 09:26 AM

then get a bearing puller..

KoukiMonster · 11-07-2004, 10:58 AM

http://www.son240sx.ca/forums/viewto...964b836829ddb5

jedc · 11-07-2004, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoukiMonster

http://www.son240sx.ca/forums/viewto...964b836829ddb5

Thanks...but there was nothing relevant to my question on that thread.
My car is already manual just that the new motor was from an auto.
I will just try the slide hammer again and see how that goes. If not, the
sawzall will finish it up.

phase12048 · 11-07-2004, 07:35 PM

I've got the same exact problem. I feel your pain I worked on trying to get out the bearing for 4 hours already

11-02-2004, 10:25 AM	#1
jedc Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South MS Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	help me with 5speed swap I have a 98' automatic motor that I am putting in my 5speed S13. I am trying to remove the brass ring where the pilot bearing would go..this ring is not found on 5speed cars. I've tried a slide hammer but it doesn't have anything to really grip onto..If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them...I want to get my s13 on the road =(

11-02-2004, 10:31 AM	#3
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 42 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	WTF is that? Why did you post a picture?? You need a pilot bearing removal tool, and a slide hammer. Then you need to get in behind the bearing, and open that tool up as much as possible. Like have a friend open it with a wrench while you hold. Then use the slide hammer. If that really doesn't work (and it does), you can use a pipe wrench. I don't suggest it. And 5-speed cars do have the pilot bearing, but it's shorter. You need to install a manual pilot bearing after removing the automatic one. -Jeff __________________ Whatup?

11-06-2004, 04:57 PM	#8
syco3d Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Topeka, Ks Age: 41 Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My post was a bunch of crap, and I couldn't remove it, so this is what u get. __________________ Gimme a "A"! Gimme a "P"! Gimme a "C"! What does that spell? CRAP!

11-02-2004, 10:27 AM	#2
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11-02-2004, 10:33 AM	#4
Eternal_240Sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: norcal, bay area Age: 41 Posts: 674 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Are you talking about the donut ring right at the edge of the crankshaft? On my SR I had a problem with grip too, but what i did is use the hammer but dont slide the hammer too hard or it will keep slipping. Keep it as small tapping hits. Mine came right out.

11-02-2004, 10:43 PM	#6
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just like Jeff said. Use a Slide hammer. Not slide the hammer, what ever that means. For a slide hammer, you can get the peice for the end that is a three peice hook. My friend just got his out from using that, and the last one he and his friend did, they did not have the tool so they tack-welded a piece of metal to it, yanked it out (that worked well to).

11-05-2004, 08:17 PM	#7
jedc Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South MS Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Guys, I really need your help. I tried using the slide hammer with the pilot bearing remover and there is only a tiny lip for it to grab. Mine wouldn't really grab at all after tightening it as much as I could with wrenches. For clarification I am not removing the pilot bearing, it's the donut ring thing that only automatics have on the end of the crank. Since I couldn't get the slide hammer to work I sawzalled some slits in it to try and knock it with a flathead or something but that wouldn't work either. Anyone have suggestions? I couldn't find any other tools at autozone that would do the job with the slide hammer either.

11-07-2004, 09:02 AM	#9
270R Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bell gardens ca Age: 40 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Try using grease, a bolt the size of the pilot bearing and a hamma...er.. then eyyyy

11-07-2004, 09:19 AM	#11
jedc Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South MS Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I tried the grease trick many times. It was a picture of the automatic pilot converter.

11-07-2004, 09:24 AM	#12
270R Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bell gardens ca Age: 40 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I tried ...lol hehe

11-07-2004, 09:26 AM	#13
270R Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bell gardens ca Age: 40 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	then get a bearing puller..

11-07-2004, 10:58 AM	#14
KoukiMonster Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ? Age: 39 Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.son240sx.ca/forums/viewto...964b836829ddb5

11-07-2004, 07:35 PM	#16
phase12048 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 29 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've got the same exact problem. I feel your pain I worked on trying to get out the bearing for 4 hours already