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bennieboy · 03-20-2002, 06:21 PM

i reeally want to beat my freinds 300 zx 2+2 NA (he has not done anthing to it)... this summer i plan on getting a 95 DOHC enginge and tranny... what else whould i need to do in oder to spank my freind in his 300. i felt like in the past i just got the run around... i understand headers, intake, and exhaust... but what brands are good how much am i looking at spending... i think i may go NA... but i may change my mind in once i start adding up prices and what not...

xNotoriousGQx · 03-20-2002, 08:28 PM

Get some NOS....you'll smoke the crap out of him.

black0ut · 03-20-2002, 11:39 PM

It shouldn't take a whole lot. They only have 222HP stock, and they are 700 pounds heavier. That puts you at a very nice advantage. Intake/headers/exhaust should give you anywhere from 15 - 25 HP (roughly, more or less), which on a DOHC should put you at up to 180 HP or so. With the huge weight difference, it should be pretty close (I would think). Of course, I could be totally wrong. My friend has a stage VIII or some crazy number NA 2+2 (supposedly running 310HP or something according to Stillen, probably closer to 280HP or so), and he is a lot faster than me (stock), but not that much. I think if he was stock, he would just barely pull away.

Nathan

MDSrRider · 03-21-2002, 08:04 AM

You should be able to beat him with a DOHC, intake and exhaust If you can drive?

bennieboy · 03-21-2002, 10:04 AM

i understand what i need... what brands??? how much am i looking at... has any one tried to do this... beat a 300zx 2+2 NA??? what did you use?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

camppain · 03-21-2002, 10:13 AM

i am really getting tired of these posts not to sound like a dick head, but why cant you do the research. read up on bolt ons look at the companies website ask them how much hp is there product. look for dyno charts. shift faster drive better take everything outta your car lighten it up.

why not just race one and see how bad it is? and how does this belong in tech talk? you did not ask one specific question about a product nor a problem?

these topics along with "do you think i can beat so and so kinda car are really getting outta hand and starting to get annoying. not picking mainly on you but dont expect people to do stuff for you do it yourself you'll be more satisfied and gain more knowledge in the end.

gman240 · 03-21-2002, 10:27 AM

Header: You could go with hotshot
Exhuast: Apexi, 5zigen, greddy
Intake: Injen
Could add an underdrive pulley by unorothdox racing
those are some good starting options

bennieboy · 03-21-2002, 11:16 AM

camppain
... i visited you web site... all you have done in mods or installs is breaks <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> WOW! i am not to impressed... i can talk trash too... but i will stop now!
i was mainly asking though about what you used... what web sites?
i mean i have checked and spent about 50 hours looking for mods...
there are TONS of names and sites but where do you find out about the dino specs, hp and others stuff. do you have any suggesstions. of these web site brands should i just go with what ever or is there some BRANDS to stay away from? that is why i posted this.
i am looking for QUALITY parts that are going to last...
I DO NOT WANT TO WASTE ANYONES TIME NOR MY MONEY

it is just i do not want to make a poor investment

MDSrRider · 03-21-2002, 02:08 PM

bennie,

one of my 240's is a dohc with an injen intake and a custom 2.5 inch catback exhaust with a 75.00 muffler from don at pdm
and the cat converter hollowed out and i wil spank any stock n/a 300zx until i hit my speed limiter at 118 . quarter mile rolling start whatever.

MorganS13 · 03-21-2002, 02:14 PM

stock N/A Z32s supposedly run high 6s/low 7s 0-60 and low 15s in the quarter (i think!&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>.  u should be able to do it with basic intake/header/exhaust....  but it'll come down to driver in the end.  this is all assmin its a 5-speed

Yoshi · 03-21-2002, 04:31 PM

Hmmm... I've got to go with camp on this one... These posts are entirely too common, but I'll speak my peace on it anyway...

you said you're getting a new KA, and bolt-ons, I think the others guesses of 180 seems mostly realistic... I'm assuming if you're swapping out, you probably have an older s13 with the KA24e, or a DE with sime high miles... for the same price as you'll be shelling out for all that, you could get a stock setup with a SR20 redtop for just a slight bit more, and start off with 205 (at the fly) stock... add bolt-ons and up the boost, then 230-240 should be within reach pretty easy.

Add a VLSD for a junked s13 SE and you'll be equal with him right off a standstill...

you never mentioned if you want ot be able to beat him just in a drag (bleh, any idiot can go fast in a straight line imho), or if you want to do autoX or wangan style... I guess that all depends on where you live... but most of all, the driver is everything.  Practice your launches, work corners over and over, work the double-clutching so you don't ruin all your nice expensive new mods... all this is even more important that the actual parts, cuz what good are they if you can't use them to their full potential?

Or worse... having all those mods and losing only points to operator error... that's far worse than just losing.

all that being said, for research, try your best to use the search option to look for keywords like: tanabe, 5zigen, greddy, apex/apexi, Tein,  nismo, eibach, PDM, etc etc

camppain · 03-21-2002, 09:37 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ Mar. 22 2002,05:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmmm... I've got to go with camp on this one... These posts are entirely too common, but I'll speak my peace on it anyway...

you said you're getting a new KA, and bolt-ons, I think the others guesses of 180 seems mostly realistic... I'm assuming if you're swapping out, you probably have an older s13 with the KA24e, or a DE with sime high miles... for the same price as you'll be shelling out for all that, you could get a stock setup with a SR20 redtop for just a slight bit more, and start off with 205 (at the fly) stock... add bolt-ons and up the boost, then 230-240 should be within reach pretty easy.

Add a VLSD for a junked s13 SE and you'll be equal with him right off a standstill...

you never mentioned if you want ot be able to beat him just in a drag (bleh, any idiot can go fast in a straight line imho), or if you want to do autoX or wangan style... I guess that all depends on where you live... but most of all, the driver is everything. Practice your launches, work corners over and over, work the double-clutching so you don't ruin all your nice expensive new mods... all this is even more important that the actual parts, cuz what good are they if you can't use them to their full potential?

Or worse... having all those mods and losing only points to operator error... that's far worse than just losing.

all that being said, for research, try your best to use the search option to look for keywords like: tanabe, 5zigen, greddy, apex/apexi, Tein, nismo, eibach, PDM, etc etc</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
like i said even though i just posted my brake install on my site doesnt mean its my only mod. thats what i choose to post since so many people always ask about that whats needed wil it fit blah blah blah!

i have only done suspension and brakes cause i am not keeping my sohc engine. i have done my own timing chain i have done 5 lug conversion which is also going to be documented.

so like i said im not picking on you theres just to many of these posts popping up which makes it annoying when questions arent to specific or just for a certain car. basic mods are pretty much the same hp like cai exhaust.

of course some are more gains in certain aspects like low rpm high rpm. etc.

also i said im not tryna be a d*ck.

Yoshi · 03-21-2002, 10:20 PM

Umm... just read your post Camppain...

I'm confused... why did you quote me? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

camppain · 03-21-2002, 10:37 PM

oops sorry i mean the p[art where you said "ive got to go with camp on this one but i'll post my side etc" thats why. i forgot it qoutes the whole thing automatically <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

03-20-2002, 06:21 PM	#1
bennieboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i reeally want to beat my freinds 300 zx 2+2 NA (he has not done anthing to it)... this summer i plan on getting a 95 DOHC enginge and tranny... what else whould i need to do in oder to spank my freind in his 300. i felt like in the past i just got the run around... i understand headers, intake, and exhaust... but what brands are good how much am i looking at spending... i think i may go NA... but i may change my mind in once i start adding up prices and what not... __________________ first and best mod EVER changing from auto to 5 speed! it is like a new car.

03-20-2002, 08:28 PM	#2
xNotoriousGQx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 447 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Get some NOS....you'll smoke the crap out of him. __________________ www.RevTechRacing.com

03-21-2002, 08:04 AM	#4
MDSrRider Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You should be able to beat him with a DOHC, intake and exhaust If you can drive? __________________ I LLLOOOOOVE THE COCK!!!!!!!!!!!

03-21-2002, 10:04 AM	#5
bennieboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i understand what i need... what brands??? how much am i looking at... has any one tried to do this... beat a 300zx 2+2 NA??? what did you use?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> __________________ first and best mod EVER changing from auto to 5 speed! it is like a new car.

03-21-2002, 10:13 AM	#6
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i am really getting tired of these posts not to sound like a dick head, but why cant you do the research. read up on bolt ons look at the companies website ask them how much hp is there product. look for dyno charts. shift faster drive better take everything outta your car lighten it up. why not just race one and see how bad it is? and how does this belong in tech talk? you did not ask one specific question about a product nor a problem? these topics along with "do you think i can beat so and so kinda car are really getting outta hand and starting to get annoying. not picking mainly on you but dont expect people to do stuff for you do it yourself you'll be more satisfied and gain more knowledge in the end. __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

03-20-2002, 11:39 PM	#3
black0ut Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It shouldn't take a whole lot. They only have 222HP stock, and they are 700 pounds heavier. That puts you at a very nice advantage. Intake/headers/exhaust should give you anywhere from 15 - 25 HP (roughly, more or less), which on a DOHC should put you at up to 180 HP or so. With the huge weight difference, it should be pretty close (I would think). Of course, I could be totally wrong. My friend has a stage VIII or some crazy number NA 2+2 (supposedly running 310HP or something according to Stillen, probably closer to 280HP or so), and he is a lot faster than me (stock), but not that much. I think if he was stock, he would just barely pull away. Nathan __________________ ...contact me...

03-21-2002, 10:27 AM	#7
gman240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Boston, MA Age: 48 Posts: 86 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Header: You could go with hotshot Exhuast: Apexi, 5zigen, greddy Intake: Injen Could add an underdrive pulley by unorothdox racing those are some good starting options __________________ "Do unto others as you would have done unto you" "Follow Me" Shift_Passion

03-21-2002, 11:16 AM	#8
bennieboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	camppain ... i visited you web site... all you have done in mods or installs is breaks <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> WOW! i am not to impressed... i can talk trash too... but i will stop now! i was mainly asking though about what you used... what web sites? i mean i have checked and spent about 50 hours looking for mods... there are TONS of names and sites but where do you find out about the dino specs, hp and others stuff. do you have any suggesstions. of these web site brands should i just go with what ever or is there some BRANDS to stay away from? that is why i posted this. i am looking for QUALITY parts that are going to last... I DO NOT WANT TO WASTE ANYONES TIME NOR MY MONEY it is just i do not want to make a poor investment __________________ first and best mod EVER changing from auto to 5 speed! it is like a new car.

03-21-2002, 02:08 PM	#9
MDSrRider Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bennie, one of my 240's is a dohc with an injen intake and a custom 2.5 inch catback exhaust with a 75.00 muffler from don at pdm and the cat converter hollowed out and i wil spank any stock n/a 300zx until i hit my speed limiter at 118 . quarter mile rolling start whatever. __________________ I LLLOOOOOVE THE COCK!!!!!!!!!!!

03-21-2002, 02:14 PM	#10
MorganS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 707 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	stock N/A Z32s supposedly run high 6s/low 7s 0-60 and low 15s in the quarter (i think!&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>.  u should be able to do it with basic intake/header/exhaust....  but it'll come down to driver in the end.  this is all assmin its a 5-speed

03-21-2002, 04:31 PM	#11
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hmmm... I've got to go with camp on this one... These posts are entirely too common, but I'll speak my peace on it anyway... you said you're getting a new KA, and bolt-ons, I think the others guesses of 180 seems mostly realistic... I'm assuming if you're swapping out, you probably have an older s13 with the KA24e, or a DE with sime high miles... for the same price as you'll be shelling out for all that, you could get a stock setup with a SR20 redtop for just a slight bit more, and start off with 205 (at the fly) stock... add bolt-ons and up the boost, then 230-240 should be within reach pretty easy. Add a VLSD for a junked s13 SE and you'll be equal with him right off a standstill... you never mentioned if you want ot be able to beat him just in a drag (bleh, any idiot can go fast in a straight line imho), or if you want to do autoX or wangan style... I guess that all depends on where you live... but most of all, the driver is everything.  Practice your launches, work corners over and over, work the double-clutching so you don't ruin all your nice expensive new mods... all this is even more important that the actual parts, cuz what good are they if you can't use them to their full potential? Or worse... having all those mods and losing only points to operator error... that's far worse than just losing. all that being said, for research, try your best to use the search option to look for keywords like: tanabe, 5zigen, greddy, apex/apexi, Tein,  nismo, eibach, PDM, etc etc __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

03-21-2002, 09:37 PM	#12
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ Mar. 22 2002,05:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmmm... I've got to go with camp on this one... These posts are entirely too common, but I'll speak my peace on it anyway... you said you're getting a new KA, and bolt-ons, I think the others guesses of 180 seems mostly realistic... I'm assuming if you're swapping out, you probably have an older s13 with the KA24e, or a DE with sime high miles... for the same price as you'll be shelling out for all that, you could get a stock setup with a SR20 redtop for just a slight bit more, and start off with 205 (at the fly) stock... add bolt-ons and up the boost, then 230-240 should be within reach pretty easy. Add a VLSD for a junked s13 SE and you'll be equal with him right off a standstill... you never mentioned if you want ot be able to beat him just in a drag (bleh, any idiot can go fast in a straight line imho), or if you want to do autoX or wangan style... I guess that all depends on where you live... but most of all, the driver is everything. Practice your launches, work corners over and over, work the double-clutching so you don't ruin all your nice expensive new mods... all this is even more important that the actual parts, cuz what good are they if you can't use them to their full potential? Or worse... having all those mods and losing only points to operator error... that's far worse than just losing. all that being said, for research, try your best to use the search option to look for keywords like: tanabe, 5zigen, greddy, apex/apexi, Tein, nismo, eibach, PDM, etc etc</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> like i said even though i just posted my brake install on my site doesnt mean its my only mod. thats what i choose to post since so many people always ask about that whats needed wil it fit blah blah blah! i have only done suspension and brakes cause i am not keeping my sohc engine. i have done my own timing chain i have done 5 lug conversion which is also going to be documented. so like i said im not picking on you theres just to many of these posts popping up which makes it annoying when questions arent to specific or just for a certain car. basic mods are pretty much the same hp like cai exhaust. of course some are more gains in certain aspects like low rpm high rpm. etc. also i said im not tryna be a d*ck. __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

03-21-2002, 10:20 PM	#13
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Umm... just read your post Camppain... I'm confused... why did you quote me? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

03-21-2002, 10:37 PM	#14
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oops sorry i mean the p[art where you said "ive got to go with camp on this one but i'll post my side etc" thats why. i forgot it qoutes the whole thing automatically <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'> __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-