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kuruptR · 10-20-2004, 12:22 AM

I am really interested in picking up one of these... they look like my 2000 pathfinder gauge cluster..

Differences between Chuki Cluster. Digital Odometer/Trip meter/Clock.
LED round lights are gone, replaced with light up logos.
Faces are grey instead of black.

Because the odometer is digital not analog... would this guage cluster be hard to wire up? will i need new sensors or anything?

Im running Blacktop s13 motor.

NISMO_drift · 10-20-2004, 03:46 AM

get pics of the back/plugs. i'm guessing it'll plug right into your s13.

HyperTek · 10-20-2004, 06:19 PM

wiring harness is different on those... I think Old_S13 wired one up in his car... so he would be most knowledgable.

FRpilot · 01-08-2005, 04:08 PM

would like to know..

amolao · 01-08-2005, 09:23 PM

Thats a good looking cluster, never seen that one before. But should be a matter of matching the signals to the right wires. The first thing to do is to find a wire diagram for that cluster...a JDM FSM will definetely show the connections.. and then rewire your plugs the cluster.

240trainee · 01-08-2005, 10:49 PM

Wow, I would so hit that if i could find one. Would be worth the work imo

mr_240sx · 01-08-2005, 11:55 PM

WOW, first time i ever see one that looks like that!

Pepperoni · 01-09-2005, 12:58 AM

The back of mine looks the same as my stock one. Im using my stock one at the moment though. I'll take pics of the back of the cluster tomorrow if anyone would like any (1998 S13 blacktop type x)

goodjuan · 01-09-2005, 01:22 AM

those clusters are two plug instead of three plug like all other s13 guage harnesses. More, the 2 plug 98 cluster plugs are integrated into the entire interior harness. It does not have a seperate gauge harness you can just swap with.

So to use it. You can

1. get ahold of a type x interior harness (the one with all the radio, climate control stuff) and cut off the two plugs that go into the cluster. give it plenty of slack. Splice into a three plug s13 cluster harness. most of the color's match up...but you need to follow the circuits on the back of the clusters to be sure (very tedious)

2. Use the entire type x interior harness. that way no splicing is required (i could never find the speedometer signal) from what i hear this is what old s13 did. and what i think is the cleaner way in the end. But this, i think, actually requires you to use the type x j4 ecu and blacktop motor. On the plus side, this is also an extremely easy way to wire up that trick digital climate control. (since you'll have all the stepper motors and wiring needed to do it)

3. Or you could do what i did. Buy a clip you knew nothing about. Swap it in. Splice in the trick gauge cluster but never get all the functions working.

Finally sell the cluster to someone else and use a sohc cluster. Swap out speed sensor so the US speedo will work) Find out now your temp gauge doesn't match.

Then find out you have no way to see a check light (J4 ECUs have no check lights on them you get a check light off the type x cluster ...which i sold for peanuts not knowing what it was worth

) Then find out you could have just swapped the whole interior harness and had a cool ass diagnostic scanport, a working checklight, and a sweet looking gauge cluster.

So know i'm worse than when i started and i gotto pay a king's ransom for another damn type x cluster! *note: do not use this method.

Good luck and if anyone has a type x cluster they want to sell me with cut plugs send me a pm!!!

WILDACEX187 · 01-09-2005, 02:29 AM

heres mine that i havent installed yet. very good condition.

p.s. dont ask i wont sell it

Kid Zelda v2 · 01-09-2005, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek

wiring harness is different on those... I think Old_S13 wired one up in his car... so he would be most knowledgable.

haha, if you only knew

FRpilot · 01-09-2005, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodjuan

On the plus side, this is also an extremely easy way to wire up that trick digital climate control. (since you'll have all the stepper motors and wiring needed to do it)

there are motors you have to use too? arg!! haha.

I nominate this thread for FAQ!!! right now before it gets lost with other noob threads that pop up like wildfires!

SimpleSexy180 · 01-11-2005, 02:15 AM

where did you get that!?! i want one

*Grant* · 01-11-2005, 02:45 AM

hehe, althought that cluster is very nice and better looking, I'm still the picky type that wants everything to be in MPH, so I'll still stick to this one lol:

I believe knightrider is one of the few that has this on their cars, only downside is unless u have a ca18, the tach needs to be swapped out.

HyperTek · 01-11-2005, 12:05 PM

bah I gave up on even tryin to source a kouki cluster..

Mines a standard sr20 cluster wtih importintelligence.com faces overlays, then I did the MPH conversion trick alla http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...b=5&o=&fpart=1

180mph speedo aint that usless... my car does 140 for stock KA ungoverned..

WILDACEX187 · 01-11-2005, 06:53 PM

i thought KA's are gear limited to 135?

SimpleSexy180 · 01-11-2005, 10:09 PM

wow nice steering wheel. What kind is it?

HyperTek · 01-12-2005, 12:08 AM

cheapo GRANT steering wheel.. u know, the ones @ Pep Boys =P... it came with my car, not my cup of tea but im not complaining, it feels good.

10-20-2004, 12:22 AM	#1
kuruptR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UpNorth Posts: 1,046 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	JDM 1998 180sx guage cluster: Rare... hard to install? I am really interested in picking up one of these... they look like my 2000 pathfinder gauge cluster.. Differences between Chuki Cluster. Digital Odometer/Trip meter/Clock. LED round lights are gone, replaced with light up logos. Faces are grey instead of black. Because the odometer is digital not analog... would this guage cluster be hard to wire up? will i need new sensors or anything? Im running Blacktop s13 motor. __________________ @woooster on instagram

10-20-2004, 03:46 AM	#2
NISMO_drift Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Age: 43 Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	get pics of the back/plugs. i'm guessing it'll plug right into your s13. __________________ 92 White Pearl Sileighty ~S15 Front ~180SX Kouki tail lights ~S13 Blacktop SR20DET

10-20-2004, 06:19 PM	#3
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	wiring harness is different on those... I think Old_S13 wired one up in his car... so he would be most knowledgable. __________________ Keep it Classy

01-08-2005, 09:23 PM	#5
amolao Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA....(lower alabama) Age: 61 Posts: 203 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Thats a good looking cluster, never seen that one before. But should be a matter of matching the signals to the right wires. The first thing to do is to find a wire diagram for that cluster...a JDM FSM will definetely show the connections.. and then rewire your plugs the cluster. __________________ http://home.sw.rr.com/longstorenissan *UPDATED 13 AUG 05 *

01-08-2005, 10:49 PM	#6
240trainee Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 38 Posts: 3,861 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Wow, I would so hit that if i could find one. Would be worth the work imo __________________ Team Pterodactyl SHARK ATTACK!!! LookoutDrift

01-08-2005, 11:55 PM	#7
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 38 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	WOW, first time i ever see one that looks like that!

01-09-2005, 12:58 AM	#8
Pepperoni Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: norcal Posts: 750 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The back of mine looks the same as my stock one. Im using my stock one at the moment though. I'll take pics of the back of the cluster tomorrow if anyone would like any (1998 S13 blacktop type x) __________________ Turbo piping, Intakes and More: http://www.pipingpro.com

01-09-2005, 01:22 AM	#9
goodjuan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San andreas Posts: 391 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	those clusters are two plug instead of three plug like all other s13 guage harnesses. More, the 2 plug 98 cluster plugs are integrated into the entire interior harness. It does not have a seperate gauge harness you can just swap with. So to use it. You can 1. get ahold of a type x interior harness (the one with all the radio, climate control stuff) and cut off the two plugs that go into the cluster. give it plenty of slack. Splice into a three plug s13 cluster harness. most of the color's match up...but you need to follow the circuits on the back of the clusters to be sure (very tedious) 2. Use the entire type x interior harness. that way no splicing is required (i could never find the speedometer signal) from what i hear this is what old s13 did. and what i think is the cleaner way in the end. But this, i think, actually requires you to use the type x j4 ecu and blacktop motor. On the plus side, this is also an extremely easy way to wire up that trick digital climate control. (since you'll have all the stepper motors and wiring needed to do it) 3. Or you could do what i did. Buy a clip you knew nothing about. Swap it in. Splice in the trick gauge cluster but never get all the functions working. Finally sell the cluster to someone else and use a sohc cluster. Swap out speed sensor so the US speedo will work) Find out now your temp gauge doesn't match. Then find out you have no way to see a check light (J4 ECUs have no check lights on them you get a check light off the type x cluster ...which i sold for peanuts not knowing what it was worth ) Then find out you could have just swapped the whole interior harness and had a cool ass diagnostic scanport, a working checklight, and a sweet looking gauge cluster. So know i'm worse than when i started and i gotto pay a king's ransom for another damn type x cluster! *note: do not use this method. Good luck and if anyone has a type x cluster they want to sell me with cut plugs send me a pm!!!

01-09-2005, 02:29 AM	#10
WILDACEX187 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QUEENZ, NYC Age: 42 Posts: 3,103 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	heres mine that i havent installed yet. very good condition. p.s. dont ask i wont sell it __________________ SR POWA COUPE LUVVV!!!

01-11-2005, 02:15 AM	#13
SimpleSexy180 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cal Posts: 4,750 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: SimpleSexy180 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	where did you get that!?! i want one

01-11-2005, 02:45 AM	#14
Grant Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: 聖地牙哥 Posts: 2,647 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Grant Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hehe, althought that cluster is very nice and better looking, I'm still the picky type that wants everything to be in MPH, so I'll still stick to this one lol: I believe knightrider is one of the few that has this on their cars, only downside is unless u have a ca18, the tach needs to be swapped out.

01-11-2005, 12:05 PM	#15
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	bah I gave up on even tryin to source a kouki cluster.. Mines a standard sr20 cluster wtih importintelligence.com faces overlays, then I did the MPH conversion trick alla http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...b=5&o=&fpart=1 180mph speedo aint that usless... my car does 140 for stock KA ungoverned.. __________________ Keep it Classy

01-11-2005, 06:53 PM	#16
WILDACEX187 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QUEENZ, NYC Age: 42 Posts: 3,103 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i thought KA's are gear limited to 135? __________________ SR POWA COUPE LUVVV!!!

01-11-2005, 10:09 PM	#17
SimpleSexy180 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cal Posts: 4,750 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: SimpleSexy180 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	wow nice steering wheel. What kind is it?

01-12-2005, 12:08 AM	#18
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	cheapo GRANT steering wheel.. u know, the ones @ Pep Boys =P... it came with my car, not my cup of tea but im not complaining, it feels good. __________________ Keep it Classy