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Shaminii · 06-30-2004, 11:56 PM

I was painting my valve cover today and when i removed my valve cover i found a piece of metal layin on top of my timing chain. it was supposed to be mounted to this thing but it broke off and now it jus sits on top of my timin chain. if it was connected they would not touch. i believe this piece of metal of supposed to keep the timin chain in place so it doesn't move anywhere. my cars been makin a rattlin noise ever since i bought the car i nvr really found out until now wat was makin the noise. i'm not sure if i should jus leave it where it is, drive w/ it out my engine, or maybe i could jus get one from someones ka (someone whos done sr swap and doesn't need their ka). wat should i do?

The location of the piece of metal

This is me holdin the piece from the chain

*HaLo* · 07-01-2004, 12:00 AM

REmove it... that would be what I would do

**mrmephistopheles** · 07-01-2004, 12:07 AM

Throw it away. Don't worry about replacement, because Nissan realized it's a superfluous piece, and deleted it from their parts manifest. Just throw it away and move on.

s13irdie2 · 07-01-2004, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmephistopheles

Throw it away. Don't worry about replacement, because Nissan realized it's a superfluous piece, and deleted it from their parts manifest. Just throw it away and move on.

the same thing happend to me when i opened my valve cover!! i went to the nissan dealer and they to just remove cause i dont need it anymore.

twitchy · 07-01-2004, 02:16 AM

this is for absolute sure, the dealsership says its okay to remove it....cause mines just turned 200 kms and its rattlin like a bastard

skatanic28 · 07-01-2004, 06:14 AM

yeah i just took mine off last weekend, got rid of some of the rattling too. the underside of mine was pretty scratched up, but thats a pretty sturdy plate, im surprised it just broke.

aznpoopy · 07-01-2004, 06:50 AM

upper timing chain guide... that sound must've been pissing you guys off, no? yeah just remove it. there's another one that can cause rattling too. check the FAQ section on timing chain guide rattle... the post was by 'misnomer.'

240KAT · 07-01-2004, 05:44 PM

does the SR have one of these too?

240eggsx · 07-01-2004, 06:44 PM

Holy shit that motor is FILTHY!
Gotta love the previous owner for the $19.99 oil changes every 5,000 miles.

GonadSX · 07-01-2004, 08:51 PM

I thought my guide had broken last year when I heard the rattle. So I removed the guide and it was
still intact so it was just the lifters as I was told. My car has been running strong since then.

I have about 146KMs on this motor (about 91K miles)

kid_nissan · 07-01-2004, 10:31 PM

i have a nasty rattle, can some1 describe what it sounds like, because if this sounds like the rattle i have then i will check this out aswell
Thjanks
Nick

240eggsx · 07-01-2004, 11:08 PM

gonadsx... very clean motor for having 91k miles on it =] Did you do something to clean it? Or did you just get super lucky.

GonadSX · 07-01-2004, 11:13 PM

I got super lucky.

Previous (and only) owner was a womaon who basically just drove it to her cottage or something.
I'm sure she took care of it well.

Car is in great shape. I bought it at 85K miles.

pinoi007 · 07-02-2004, 12:12 AM

Is there anything to use to clean up that "filth"? Oil additives?

NinjaGaiden · 07-02-2004, 12:23 AM

try simple green

dvdevo · 07-02-2004, 12:26 AM

hrmm looks like u relocated your battery, maybe you should customize your intake to go through the passenger side instead.

infinitexsound · 01-27-2005, 03:06 AM

200k soon and my chain is rattlin louder then a new baby mom, i might probably ride it out and get a lower mile engine since this one is so high...

kandyflip445 · 01-27-2005, 05:11 AM

Resurection!!!!!!!! Wtf!!!!

**mrmephistopheles** · 01-27-2005, 08:38 AM

holy resurrection batman.

wtf, infinitexsound? did you really have to dig this thread up to tell the whole forum something we really couldn't give a crap about?

evrae205b · 01-27-2005, 09:32 AM

i never saw an answer to one question. but im guessing that the sr does not have one of these seeing how its never mentioned anywhere.

sr240mike · 01-27-2005, 11:56 AM

Sr does have one and mine broke too. The cause of it was a bad tensioner which put slack in the chain and let it hit the guide. Take it off anyway even if it doesnt rattle yet. Once it does rattle it means the chain is hitting the guide and grinding off metal shavings into your engine (not good). What causes it to break should be addressed too. Mine was a bad tensioner, but it could also be a stretched chain or low oil pressure.

infinitexsound · 01-27-2005, 07:41 PM

sorry i was bored, just wanted to get my post numbers up... lol

**mrmephistopheles** · 01-27-2005, 09:36 PM

how sad. maybe i should reduce your post count to zero to teach you a lesson.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 01-28-2005, 11:54 AM

Haha....i wanna see some OWNAGE!!!

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neilsan · 01-28-2005, 02:46 PM

I just went through this whole thing. make a long story short, my hopes of replacing the upper chain and tensioner and removing the guides to fix my timing chain noise were false. My lower tensioner had failed and wasnt pushing the guide into the chain to pull out slack. This, as you can imagine, caused a shitload of terrible noise. There was so much slack i was surprised the chain didnt jump teeth on the crank/drive gear.

I've since replaced the entire timing chain set with a kit from S.A. Gear and the car has more power than ive felt in any stock S13 and is completely quiet. In fact its so quiet its difficult to tell it's running at idle. When setting the timing advance, the marks were dead still. The components S.A. provides are of a "revised" style. They include a new top-plate for between the cam gears but I did not use it.

06-30-2004, 11:56 PM	#1
Shaminii Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: VA Posts: 406 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Broken piece under my valve cover I was painting my valve cover today and when i removed my valve cover i found a piece of metal layin on top of my timing chain. it was supposed to be mounted to this thing but it broke off and now it jus sits on top of my timin chain. if it was connected they would not touch. i believe this piece of metal of supposed to keep the timin chain in place so it doesn't move anywhere. my cars been makin a rattlin noise ever since i bought the car i nvr really found out until now wat was makin the noise. i'm not sure if i should jus leave it where it is, drive w/ it out my engine, or maybe i could jus get one from someones ka (someone whos done sr swap and doesn't need their ka). wat should i do? The location of the piece of metal This is me holdin the piece from the chain

07-01-2004, 12:00 AM	#2
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	REmove it... that would be what I would do __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

07-01-2004, 02:16 AM	#5
twitchy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this is for absolute sure, the dealsership says its okay to remove it....cause mines just turned 200 kms and its rattlin like a bastard __________________ Who the hell needs a sig anyhow

07-01-2004, 05:44 PM	#8
240KAT Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 38 Posts: 797 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	does the SR have one of these too? __________________ Drew

07-01-2004, 08:51 PM	#10
GonadSX Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thought my guide had broken last year when I heard the rattle. So I removed the guide and it was still intact so it was just the lifters as I was told. My car has been running strong since then. I have about 146KMs on this motor (about 91K miles) __________________ Gautam :: Google Specialist :: www.my240.com

07-01-2004, 12:07 AM	#3
mrmephistopheles Magnanimous Justice Distribution Service Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 23 Posts: 14,372 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Throw it away. Don't worry about replacement, because Nissan realized it's a superfluous piece, and deleted it from their parts manifest. Just throw it away and move on.

07-01-2004, 06:14 AM	#6
skatanic28 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Age: 41 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah i just took mine off last weekend, got rid of some of the rattling too. the underside of mine was pretty scratched up, but thats a pretty sturdy plate, im surprised it just broke.

07-01-2004, 06:50 AM	#7
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	upper timing chain guide... that sound must've been pissing you guys off, no? yeah just remove it. there's another one that can cause rattling too. check the FAQ section on timing chain guide rattle... the post was by 'misnomer.'

07-01-2004, 06:44 PM	#9
240eggsx BANNED Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: nowhere Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 240eggsx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Holy shit that motor is FILTHY! Gotta love the previous owner for the $19.99 oil changes every 5,000 miles.

07-01-2004, 10:31 PM	#11
kid_nissan Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2002 Location: NY Age: 40 Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have a nasty rattle, can some1 describe what it sounds like, because if this sounds like the rattle i have then i will check this out aswell Thjanks Nick __________________ VROOOOM PHSSSSSS clunk bang...Dammit!

07-01-2004, 11:08 PM	#12
240eggsx BANNED Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: nowhere Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 240eggsx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	gonadsx... very clean motor for having 91k miles on it =] Did you do something to clean it? Or did you just get super lucky.

07-01-2004, 11:13 PM	#13
GonadSX Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I got super lucky. Previous (and only) owner was a womaon who basically just drove it to her cottage or something. I'm sure she took care of it well. Car is in great shape. I bought it at 85K miles. __________________ Gautam :: Google Specialist :: www.my240.com

07-02-2004, 12:12 AM	#14
pinoi007 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is there anything to use to clean up that "filth"? Oil additives?

07-02-2004, 12:23 AM	#15
NinjaGaiden Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Orygun Posts: 480 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	try simple green __________________

07-02-2004, 12:26 AM	#16
dvdevo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: cali Posts: 1,469 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hrmm looks like u relocated your battery, maybe you should customize your intake to go through the passenger side instead.

01-27-2005, 03:06 AM	#17
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 42 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	200k soon and my chain is rattlin louder then a new baby mom, i might probably ride it out and get a lower mile engine since this one is so high...

01-27-2005, 05:11 AM	#18
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Resurection!!!!!!!! Wtf!!!! __________________ My 240 vBgarage

01-27-2005, 09:32 AM	#20
evrae205b Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: birmingham AL Age: 44 Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i never saw an answer to one question. but im guessing that the sr does not have one of these seeing how its never mentioned anywhere.

01-27-2005, 11:56 AM	#21
sr240mike Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California, Norcal biiaatch Posts: 1,185 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sr does have one and mine broke too. The cause of it was a bad tensioner which put slack in the chain and let it hit the guide. Take it off anyway even if it doesnt rattle yet. Once it does rattle it means the chain is hitting the guide and grinding off metal shavings into your engine (not good). What causes it to break should be addressed too. Mine was a bad tensioner, but it could also be a stretched chain or low oil pressure. __________________ TWO IN THE COOT, ONE IN THE POOT

01-27-2005, 07:41 PM	#22
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 42 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sorry i was bored, just wanted to get my post numbers up... lol

01-28-2005, 11:54 AM	#24
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Haha....i wanna see some OWNAGE!!! Post=0 __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

01-28-2005, 02:46 PM	#25
neilsan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: east coast Age: 44 Posts: 333 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just went through this whole thing. make a long story short, my hopes of replacing the upper chain and tensioner and removing the guides to fix my timing chain noise were false. My lower tensioner had failed and wasnt pushing the guide into the chain to pull out slack. This, as you can imagine, caused a shitload of terrible noise. There was so much slack i was surprised the chain didnt jump teeth on the crank/drive gear. I've since replaced the entire timing chain set with a kit from S.A. Gear and the car has more power than ive felt in any stock S13 and is completely quiet. In fact its so quiet its difficult to tell it's running at idle. When setting the timing advance, the marks were dead still. The components S.A. provides are of a "revised" style. They include a new top-plate for between the cam gears but I did not use it.