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s13irdie2 · 02-01-2005, 06:48 PM

hey guys
i went to the alignment shop today to change my camber in the front and they said the passgenger side maxed out at -.97 degrees and the drivers side was -2.28. i see the camberplates maxed out all the way and theyre different from one another. could i have switched the coilovers around? would it matter which ones left or right?

blu808 · 02-01-2005, 06:57 PM

usually that would indicate a bent arm or frame rail.

s13irdie2 · 02-01-2005, 06:59 PM

would jacking up the car from the radiator support mess it up?? cause i usually jack my car up from there. thanks

s13irdie2 · 02-01-2005, 07:08 PM

btw, which arm would probably be bent if this happens? is the frame rail on the side of the car?

orion::S14 · 02-01-2005, 07:28 PM

I would bet the spindle bolt will allow some movement...when you put the coilovers on, I bet one loaded up negative, the other positive.

Loosen both spindle bolts, push IN on the coilover, and I'll bet the spindle/hub will tilt toward the negative.

Or you have a bent LCA...?

- Brian

s13irdie2 · 02-01-2005, 07:46 PM

wheres the spindle bolt? is it on top near the camber plates? thanks for your help

s13irdie2 · 02-01-2005, 08:38 PM

as for the frame rail, is it fixable? how much would it cost to fix that?

*HaLo* · 02-01-2005, 08:48 PM

I agree. I also think the problem is with the spindle that bolts up to the shocks.

s13irdie2 · 02-01-2005, 08:51 PM

can someone tell me where the spindle is located exactly? im trying to look it up on google. thanks guys.

*HaLo* · 02-01-2005, 09:19 PM

your shocks are bolted to the hub spindles. Your shocks are most probably slotted. loosen them up, push the shocks, and look at the negative camber grow!

s13irdie2 · 02-01-2005, 09:31 PM

alright ill give it a try tom. thanks a lot!

Nagaremono · 02-01-2005, 10:11 PM

my car was like this and it was a bent tie rod.

s13irdie2 · 02-01-2005, 10:32 PM

i just put in a new tein tie rods so i doubt its that. thanks for the tip though.

s13irdie2 · 02-02-2005, 05:59 PM

alrite i checked it out today and loosened the spindle bolts and boom! negative camber. thanks for the help guys!

thx247 · 02-02-2005, 09:51 PM

Find a new alignment shop, that one's obviously over its head.

*HaLo* · 02-02-2005, 10:16 PM

Indeed. I can't believe your alignment shop could not see that.

s13irdie2 · 02-02-2005, 10:35 PM

it was firestone.

they usually dont let people change the specs on the camber since their company policy is to only set it to factory specs.

***S14DB*** · 02-03-2005, 02:31 AM

I goto Firestone all the time with my Lifetime alingment. I can have the guy put it to whatever I want. He put it to factory. Then I just go back everytime I want to change something. I may have to go back a couple of times cause they are only bugeted like 30mins for the alignment and ajusting mutiple arms can take some time.

s13irdie2 · 02-03-2005, 02:58 AM

yeah the guy said it took him an hour to do juss the back. 100 bucks for lifetime is pretty cheap.

02-01-2005, 06:48 PM	#1
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	problem with front camber at alignment shop hey guys i went to the alignment shop today to change my camber in the front and they said the passgenger side maxed out at -.97 degrees and the drivers side was -2.28. i see the camberplates maxed out all the way and theyre different from one another. could i have switched the coilovers around? would it matter which ones left or right? __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.

02-01-2005, 06:57 PM	#2
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 42 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	usually that would indicate a bent arm or frame rail. __________________

02-01-2005, 06:59 PM	#3
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	would jacking up the car from the radiator support mess it up?? cause i usually jack my car up from there. thanks __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.

02-01-2005, 07:08 PM	#4
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	btw, which arm would probably be bent if this happens? is the frame rail on the side of the car? __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.

02-01-2005, 07:28 PM	#5
orion::S14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 1,666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would bet the spindle bolt will allow some movement...when you put the coilovers on, I bet one loaded up negative, the other positive. Loosen both spindle bolts, push IN on the coilover, and I'll bet the spindle/hub will tilt toward the negative. Or you have a bent LCA...? - Brian __________________ www.KA24DEvelopment.com

02-01-2005, 07:46 PM	#6
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wheres the spindle bolt? is it on top near the camber plates? thanks for your help __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.

02-01-2005, 08:38 PM	#7
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	as for the frame rail, is it fixable? how much would it cost to fix that? __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.

02-01-2005, 08:48 PM	#8
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I agree. I also think the problem is with the spindle that bolts up to the shocks. __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

02-01-2005, 08:51 PM	#9
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	can someone tell me where the spindle is located exactly? im trying to look it up on google. thanks guys. __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.

02-01-2005, 09:19 PM	#10
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	your shocks are bolted to the hub spindles. Your shocks are most probably slotted. loosen them up, push the shocks, and look at the negative camber grow! __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

02-01-2005, 09:31 PM	#11
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	alright ill give it a try tom. thanks a lot! __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.

02-01-2005, 10:11 PM	#12
Nagaremono Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my car was like this and it was a bent tie rod.

02-01-2005, 10:32 PM	#13
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i just put in a new tein tie rods so i doubt its that. thanks for the tip though. __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.

02-02-2005, 05:59 PM	#14
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	alrite i checked it out today and loosened the spindle bolts and boom! negative camber. thanks for the help guys! __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.

02-02-2005, 09:51 PM	#15
thx247 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: bay area Posts: 1,455 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Find a new alignment shop, that one's obviously over its head.

02-02-2005, 10:16 PM	#16
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Indeed. I can't believe your alignment shop could not see that. __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

02-02-2005, 10:35 PM	#17
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it was firestone. they usually dont let people change the specs on the camber since their company policy is to only set it to factory specs. __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.

02-03-2005, 02:31 AM	#18
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I goto Firestone all the time with my Lifetime alingment. I can have the guy put it to whatever I want. He put it to factory. Then I just go back everytime I want to change something. I may have to go back a couple of times cause they are only bugeted like 30mins for the alignment and ajusting mutiple arms can take some time.

02-03-2005, 02:58 AM	#19
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah the guy said it took him an hour to do juss the back. 100 bucks for lifetime is pretty cheap. __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.