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01SaturnL200 · 02-20-2005, 07:51 PM

ok, i have noticed that when i leave my car off the headlight motors "twitch" they wont go up or down at all and my headlights wont come on at all, does anybody have any idea, i changed the relay and it didnt help, unless i changed the wrong one...... please help me

s13driver · 02-21-2005, 05:52 AM

so you are saying that the headlight wont go up nor down when you shut off the car but will it go up and or down while it is running ?

01SaturnL200 · 02-21-2005, 07:24 AM

neither, it wont go up or down period.....when the car is off the motors "twitch" they also do it while the car is on too, it keeps runnin my battery down.

s13driver · 02-21-2005, 09:21 AM

maybe a bad ground somewhere?

01SaturnL200 · 02-21-2005, 02:55 PM

both lights were ungrounded, and nothing worked i grounded em and they started twitching again

01SaturnL200 · 02-23-2005, 02:57 PM

bump? nothing else?

Yoshi · 02-23-2005, 04:04 PM

fried motor?
pull them out and do the manual 12V thing... maybe it's just a bad connection somewhere, if they're twitching and you can HEAR the motors slightly trying, it's prolly a lack of proper current (either in the wiring, or in the motor assembly ie. like when your starter goes bad).

Also, I had a friend with an 89 who played with the motor adjustment knobs too much one day, and the popups just plain stopped working.

In any event, if it turns out your lights are fried, I'll have some up for sale shortly (they're black)

01SaturnL200 · 02-23-2005, 09:54 PM

ive got extra motors, im gonna try that tomorrow, thanks for the help

kandyflip445 · 02-24-2005, 12:11 AM

Um. Mine there was something stuck and the motor wasn't strong enough to move it. I hit the button that keeps them up and then pulled hard to force it up and then it worked again. Try that.

AllenRPS13 · 02-24-2005, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandyflip445

Um. Mine there was something stuck and the motor wasn't strong enough to move it. I hit the button that keeps them up and then pulled hard to force it up and then it worked again. Try that.

mine too, try it out! may help

01SaturnL200 · 02-24-2005, 06:43 AM

oki doki thanks

luckie2hav3her · 02-24-2005, 10:37 AM

umm yea they beat me to it.... its usually cuz they get stuck and hit something, so the twicthing noise u hear is the headlight trying to reset itself, by the way when u touch the motor is it hot as fuck? cuz yea... they'll go out

kazuma · 02-24-2005, 11:39 AM

that twitching that happens is drawing current from the battery right? is it strong enough to drain the battery overnight? i had the same problem and thought nothing of it next day i went to my car and my battery was dead

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Yoshi · 02-24-2005, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazuma

that twitching that happens is drawing current from the battery right? is it strong enough to drain the battery overnight? i had the same problem and thought nothing of it next day i went to my car and my battery was dead

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exactly right, the "twitching" you hear is most likely the motor armature's arcing as it tries to spin... the brushes try to make it go like it should, but if it's seized it's just creating a load... in effect draining your power faster than if they were just in normal operation.

01SaturnL200 · 02-24-2005, 03:00 PM

im pretty sure my motors are shot.....cause they are REALLY hot

01SaturnL200 · 02-24-2005, 03:46 PM

just went outside and turned my car on, and went to turn the lights on just to check, and they both worked, normally came up and down and the lights came on lol im stumped but happy

nightwalker · 02-24-2005, 03:56 PM

the motors twitch because sometimes they seize up. The heat you guys feel is from the motor overworking itself. Try banging it if it happens again.

01SaturnL200 · 02-24-2005, 04:17 PM

ok, that makes sense thanks

02-20-2005, 07:51 PM	#1
01SaturnL200 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Slidell LA Age: 40 Posts: 859 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	headlight problem please help me! ok, i have noticed that when i leave my car off the headlight motors "twitch" they wont go up or down at all and my headlights wont come on at all, does anybody have any idea, i changed the relay and it didnt help, unless i changed the wrong one...... please help me

02-21-2005, 05:52 AM	#2
s13driver Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BrokenlanD Posts: 625 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so you are saying that the headlight wont go up nor down when you shut off the car but will it go up and or down while it is running ? __________________ it is so hard to educate the uneducated.

02-21-2005, 09:21 AM	#4
s13driver Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BrokenlanD Posts: 625 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	maybe a bad ground somewhere? __________________ it is so hard to educate the uneducated.

02-23-2005, 04:04 PM	#7
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	fried motor? pull them out and do the manual 12V thing... maybe it's just a bad connection somewhere, if they're twitching and you can HEAR the motors slightly trying, it's prolly a lack of proper current (either in the wiring, or in the motor assembly ie. like when your starter goes bad). Also, I had a friend with an 89 who played with the motor adjustment knobs too much one day, and the popups just plain stopped working. In any event, if it turns out your lights are fried, I'll have some up for sale shortly (they're black) __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

02-24-2005, 12:11 AM	#9
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Um. Mine there was something stuck and the motor wasn't strong enough to move it. I hit the button that keeps them up and then pulled hard to force it up and then it worked again. Try that. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

02-21-2005, 07:24 AM	#3
01SaturnL200 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Slidell LA Age: 40 Posts: 859 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	neither, it wont go up or down period.....when the car is off the motors "twitch" they also do it while the car is on too, it keeps runnin my battery down.

02-21-2005, 02:55 PM	#5
01SaturnL200 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Slidell LA Age: 40 Posts: 859 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	both lights were ungrounded, and nothing worked i grounded em and they started twitching again

02-23-2005, 02:57 PM	#6
01SaturnL200 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Slidell LA Age: 40 Posts: 859 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bump? nothing else?

02-23-2005, 09:54 PM	#8
01SaturnL200 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Slidell LA Age: 40 Posts: 859 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive got extra motors, im gonna try that tomorrow, thanks for the help

02-24-2005, 06:43 AM	#11
01SaturnL200 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Slidell LA Age: 40 Posts: 859 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oki doki thanks

02-24-2005, 10:37 AM	#12
luckie2hav3her BANNED Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 348 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	umm yea they beat me to it.... its usually cuz they get stuck and hit something, so the twicthing noise u hear is the headlight trying to reset itself, by the way when u touch the motor is it hot as fuck? cuz yea... they'll go out

02-24-2005, 11:39 AM	#13
kazuma Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: winnipeg, manitoba Posts: 150 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	that twitching that happens is drawing current from the battery right? is it strong enough to drain the battery overnight? i had the same problem and thought nothing of it next day i went to my car and my battery was dead .

02-24-2005, 03:00 PM	#15
01SaturnL200 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Slidell LA Age: 40 Posts: 859 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im pretty sure my motors are shot.....cause they are REALLY hot

02-24-2005, 03:46 PM	#16
01SaturnL200 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Slidell LA Age: 40 Posts: 859 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just went outside and turned my car on, and went to turn the lights on just to check, and they both worked, normally came up and down and the lights came on lol im stumped but happy

02-24-2005, 03:56 PM	#17
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 46 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the motors twitch because sometimes they seize up. The heat you guys feel is from the motor overworking itself. Try banging it if it happens again. __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

02-24-2005, 04:17 PM	#18
01SaturnL200 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Slidell LA Age: 40 Posts: 859 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok, that makes sense thanks