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*DSC* · 04-16-2002, 07:42 PM

I thought this was significant enough to link...
William, from FA has an s13 black top SR20det with stock internals (top and bottom) pushing 417rwhp on race fuel @21psi.
He beat a viper!
Then hit the dyno

*AceInHole* · 04-16-2002, 07:55 PM

i've already seen the stock internals on USDM SR's (SR20DE's) push over 400 at the wheels....

*sykikchimp* · 04-16-2002, 11:16 PM

wow.. I saw the viper kill post and was left wondering how much he was pushing.  damn.  ..drooool..  Very impressive numbers on the SR!.

DAMNIT - Ace, when are you gonna start build that KA22<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?  MUST FIGHT BACK!!  hahaha

*AceInHole* · 04-16-2002, 11:19 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sykikchimp @ April 16 2002,01:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">DAMNIT - Ace, when are you gonna start build that KA22<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>? MUST FIGHT BACK!! hahaha</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
as soon as Drifting Ricer swaps to an SR and gives me his KA <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Anyways, it still isn't the legend that Duy's car was/is, even though it looks like that it eventually WILL be.

91blk240 · 04-17-2002, 12:11 AM

just curious...how long will this motor be efficient running this much boost with stock internals?

SR20Fastback · 04-17-2002, 01:09 AM

Probably not a whole long time, but by some of the posts he made he said he was going to start building the motor.

junia · 04-17-2002, 04:40 AM

I know of one thats ran for about three years before the motor blew at a HKS drag meet.  Actually what happended was one of the screw/pins came loose on a run and got sucked in and .....well you can guess what happened, but the motor itself was still in good shape.

Zemus · 04-17-2002, 08:03 AM

do any of you know the HP and Boost limit for a stock innards CA18? I heard 350 is a safe limit

*sykikchimp* · 04-17-2002, 08:28 AM

350 should be fine on a CA. I've heard 400-450 from the Aussie boards. Wasn't Norris designs a CA pushing 400 horsies?

edit.. yup I was right.  He's done bottom end work though..  oh well, here are it's stats:

CA18DET 1809cc Turbo
8000Rpm Rev Limit
480Hp
440Lbft
Best Top Speed So Far 167Mph
ND Forged Low Comp Pistons
ND Chrome Piston Rings
Lightened & Balanced Bottom End
Lightweight Cusco Flywheel
ND Steel Billet Crankshaft
Trust Steel Conrods
ND Solid Lifter Conversion
HKS 264 Inlet & Exhaust Camshafts
ND Adjustable Cam Pulleys
ND Race Spec Cylinder Head (29mm Ports)
ND 700cc Fuel Injectors
Full Dash 8 Fuel Lines
ND Large Bore Alloy Fuel Rail
ND Prototype 45mm Quad Throttle Inlet
Manifold (3" Inlet)
SARD Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator
Bosch Motorsport Gp B Fuel Pump
SECS Full Engine Management System
Full Greddy Turbine Kit TD06-20G
ND Prototype Front Mounted Intercooler
3" Intercooler Pipework
Samco Blue Hoses
ND Breather System
8.2 To 1 Compression Ratio
K&N Induction Kit
HKS Super Dragger Full Exhaust System
3 Bar Map Sensor
Remote Mounted Battery With Alloy Cover

Oni - They are probably gonna be a really good resource for you if you start to build yours.  check them out at  http://www.norrisdesigns.com/

I haven't ever talked to the guy, but I've heard they are pretty good to work with.

boosteds14 · 04-17-2002, 10:25 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">DAMNIT - Ace, when are you gonna start build that KA22?  MUST FIGHT BACK!!  hahaha</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

2.2L?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> what are u planning to do to make this?

*AceInHole* · 04-17-2002, 10:42 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (boosteds14 @ April 16 2002,12:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">DAMNIT - Ace, when are you gonna start build that KA22? MUST FIGHT BACK!! hahaha</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

2.2L?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> what are u planning to do to make this?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Z22 crank in a KA block.... supposedly the Z22 also had an 89mm bore so you'd affectively get a KA22 with a forged and fully counterweighted crank without having to have one custom made.

boosteds14 · 04-17-2002, 10:46 AM

ur kidding me, if i only knew before.
i was going to send my crank to CROWER for them to make a custom one but when i heard of the price!!!WOW, i immediatly said "NeverMind" <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

04-16-2002, 07:42 PM	#1
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thought this was significant enough to link... William, from FA has an s13 black top SR20det with stock internals (top and bottom) pushing 417rwhp on race fuel @21psi. He beat a viper! Then hit the dyno __________________

04-16-2002, 07:55 PM	#2
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i've already seen the stock internals on USDM SR's (SR20DE's) push over 400 at the wheels.... __________________

04-16-2002, 11:16 PM	#3
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow.. I saw the viper kill post and was left wondering how much he was pushing.  damn.  ..drooool..  Very impressive numbers on the SR!. DAMNIT - Ace, when are you gonna start build that KA22<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?  MUST FIGHT BACK!!  hahaha __________________

04-16-2002, 11:19 PM	#4
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sykikchimp @ April 16 2002,01:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">DAMNIT - Ace, when are you gonna start build that KA22<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>? MUST FIGHT BACK!! hahaha</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> as soon as Drifting Ricer swaps to an SR and gives me his KA <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Anyways, it still isn't the legend that Duy's car was/is, even though it looks like that it eventually WILL be. __________________

04-17-2002, 12:11 AM	#5
91blk240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DeFuniak Springs, FL Age: 47 Posts: 326 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just curious...how long will this motor be efficient running this much boost with stock internals? __________________ RIP: 91 Black Coupe - Lost in Katrina Current: 93 Black Coupe blown s13 blacktop

04-17-2002, 01:09 AM	#6
SR20Fastback Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Bay Age: 40 Posts: 1,637 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Probably not a whole long time, but by some of the posts he made he said he was going to start building the motor. __________________ Fodive STILL blows goats, I have proof.

04-17-2002, 04:40 AM	#7
junia Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 343 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know of one thats ran for about three years before the motor blew at a HKS drag meet.  Actually what happended was one of the screw/pins came loose on a run and got sucked in and .....well you can guess what happened, but the motor itself was still in good shape. __________________ 1990 Nissan 240sx hatchback, 1991 Nissan Silvia K's PS13, 1978 Toyota Corolla KE-30

04-17-2002, 08:03 AM	#8
Zemus Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minneapols Age: 40 Posts: 2,268 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Zemus Feedback Score: 0 reviews	do any of you know the HP and Boost limit for a stock innards CA18? I heard 350 is a safe limit __________________ \|Ziptied.com\|Hybrid Z\|D-Town Forum\|Clubfr.net\|

04-17-2002, 08:28 AM	#9
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	350 should be fine on a CA. I've heard 400-450 from the Aussie boards. Wasn't Norris designs a CA pushing 400 horsies? edit.. yup I was right.  He's done bottom end work though..  oh well, here are it's stats: CA18DET 1809cc Turbo 8000Rpm Rev Limit 480Hp 440Lbft Best Top Speed So Far 167Mph ND Forged Low Comp Pistons ND Chrome Piston Rings Lightened & Balanced Bottom End Lightweight Cusco Flywheel ND Steel Billet Crankshaft Trust Steel Conrods ND Solid Lifter Conversion HKS 264 Inlet & Exhaust Camshafts ND Adjustable Cam Pulleys ND Race Spec Cylinder Head (29mm Ports) ND 700cc Fuel Injectors Full Dash 8 Fuel Lines ND Large Bore Alloy Fuel Rail ND Prototype 45mm Quad Throttle Inlet Manifold (3" Inlet) SARD Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator Bosch Motorsport Gp B Fuel Pump SECS Full Engine Management System Full Greddy Turbine Kit TD06-20G ND Prototype Front Mounted Intercooler 3" Intercooler Pipework Samco Blue Hoses ND Breather System 8.2 To 1 Compression Ratio K&N Induction Kit HKS Super Dragger Full Exhaust System 3 Bar Map Sensor Remote Mounted Battery With Alloy Cover Oni - They are probably gonna be a really good resource for you if you start to build yours.  check them out at  http://www.norrisdesigns.com/ I haven't ever talked to the guy, but I've heard they are pretty good to work with. __________________

04-17-2002, 10:25 AM	#10
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 43 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">DAMNIT - Ace, when are you gonna start build that KA22?  MUST FIGHT BACK!!  hahaha</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> 2.2L?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> what are u planning to do to make this? __________________ 240SXONE www.240SXMOTORING.com --- One Stop Shop for Your Nissan 240sx

04-17-2002, 10:42 AM	#11
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (boosteds14 @ April 16 2002,12:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">DAMNIT - Ace, when are you gonna start build that KA22? MUST FIGHT BACK!! hahaha</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> 2.2L?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> what are u planning to do to make this?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Z22 crank in a KA block.... supposedly the Z22 also had an 89mm bore so you'd affectively get a KA22 with a forged and fully counterweighted crank without having to have one custom made. __________________

04-17-2002, 10:46 AM	#12
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 43 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ur kidding me, if i only knew before. i was going to send my crank to CROWER for them to make a custom one but when i heard of the price!!!WOW, i immediatly said "NeverMind" <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ 240SXONE www.240SXMOTORING.com --- One Stop Shop for Your Nissan 240sx