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Omega47 · 09-25-2005, 09:06 PM

I was searching on ebay for an LSD rear for my s13,and i saw this...
LSD Insert

Have searched a few times on this forum and others,cant seem to find anyone who has used this,what do you think? Will it work? Worth it?

SochBAT · 09-25-2005, 09:15 PM

NO, its not. Phantom = Not there.

No-There Grip. Makes sense. For that amount, you can find a decent used LSD, or VLSD.

Hell, since i can tell you're going to skimp on things, weld the diff.

Quote:

Our Limited Slip Differential will
provide you with:

Maximized Tire Wear

hahahahaha!

*Sonic Motor* · 09-25-2005, 09:42 PM

any disadvantages to welding the diff???

If welding diff can achieve a 2way LSD effect, why are there even 2 way LSDs?

ranisron · 09-25-2005, 09:44 PM

I suggest you click on the search button....

welded diff -> 2 way lsd at all times, so no limiste slip, but locked at all time.

SochBAT · 09-25-2005, 10:29 PM

Welded the diff makes it 100% locked, ie, a solid 2way.

Advantages : earlier initiation, faster cornering, knowing when it'll slip
Disadvan. : understeer, chirping, and being JDM Tyte.

***S14DB*** · 09-25-2005, 10:37 PM

Phantom Slip, We eat spider gears for breakfast!

chlatboy · 09-25-2005, 11:57 PM

2 ways can disengages removing the chirping, tire wear that welded diffs come with. But 2 way LSDs and run deep into your pockets!!

broken_s13 · 09-26-2005, 07:21 AM

It says when cornering and braking it act likes a clutch type, and under acceleration it gives power to both wheels. Sounds like a 1.5 way to me. But cheeper. From the looks of the way it was designed, itll probably wear the spider grears down. Give it a try. i

OptionZero · 09-26-2005, 10:54 AM

No. Don't.

Dousan_PG · 09-26-2005, 11:19 AM

this shit is so old
the phantom grip is a pos
it WILL break under drifting or hard driving circumstances, ist been tested by regular folks, and it failed

quit being cheap and either weld your diff or shell out for a real LSD (hlsd, vlsd, lsd clutch)

OptionZero · 09-26-2005, 11:47 AM

actually, isn't it just being stupid? That's more expensive than a junkyard VLSD, and maybe more expensive than a Welded diff

chlatboy · 09-26-2005, 11:56 AM

buy it and see how it works. You can learn a good lesson from it. You get what you pay for and dont be cheap with stuff u put on your car. Only cheap mod that have seemed to work fine would be a welded diff.

thekman · 09-26-2005, 11:59 AM

yeah that is a pos

P_s14 · 09-26-2005, 12:10 PM

I bought a VLSD off a j30 for less than that

projectRDM · 09-26-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

actually, isn't it just being stupid? That's more expensive than a junkyard VLSD, and maybe more expensive than a Welded diff

And more work too.

Omega47 · 09-26-2005, 02:48 PM

You guys dont seem to understand i asked an opinion of it,no where did i say i was going to get it...and i wont weld the diff that is half assed. I said i was looking for an LSD and saw this.

ranisron · 09-26-2005, 02:53 PM

what's wrong with welded diff?

do a quick search on welded diff, and see if you like it.

I rode in an S13 with welded diff, didn't feel anything awkward, other than... in reverse. hhaaa.

chlatboy · 09-26-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega47

Thanks for the opinions and suggestions... and i wont weld the diff that is half assed. So instead of going halfass by welded up a diff, which is proven on tracks that they kick butt, im going to invest my life's saving for a high end, high quality Phantom Grip.

Sound better?

Toka Motorsports · 09-26-2005, 08:50 PM

there is no point to weld a diff... me and some freinds tried it on a Rustang(mustang) the gears will weld but the welds crack apart even from the lighest driving. we opened the diff and welded everything that touched and even welded some steel strips onto the gears... but it still cracked like crusty bread..

later we put like half an inch of extra steel into the diff.. it looked like it was fool proof but the power from the four cylinder rustang ripped the welds aprat again... and we ended up buying a junk yard diff to replace the ruined one...

it may work on some diffs but running the car hard... it will crack...

***S14DB*** · 09-26-2005, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Toka Motorsports

there is no point to weld a diff... me and some freinds tried it on a Rustang(mustang) the gears will weld but the welds crack apart even from the lighest driving. we opened the diff and welded everything that touched and even welded some steel strips onto the gears... but it still cracked like crusty bread..

later we put like half an inch of extra steel into the diff.. it looked like it was fool proof but the power from the four cylinder rustang ripped the welds aprat again... and we ended up buying a junk yard diff to replace the ruined one...

it may work on some diffs but running the car hard... it will crack...

Dang, Someone sucks at welding.

SochBAT · 09-26-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

Dang, Someone sucks at welding.

HALLELUJAH!!!! If that is even spelled right...

i8yourfwd · 09-27-2005, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

Dang, Someone sucks at welding.

+2 Noob welders probobly should stay away.. get a Weld Locd Ver3 from Luke!!

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it may work on some diffs but running the car hard... it will crack...

ERRRRR wrong again! http://www.shockdrifting.com/weldlocd.html
educate yourself

Just because you guys suck and welding doesn't mean a GOOD welded diff sucks.

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and i wont weld the diff that is half assed. I said i was looking for an LSD and saw this

Then don't get welded! Get Phantom grip for your diff. Then when it breaks and owns you I'll laugh because my welded diff will still be working perfectly fine.
Welded diff half assed?

That car doesn't look very half assed, but is still rocking a welded diff.

What exactly makes a welded diff half assed to you? You obviously have no clue what your talking about because you didn't even bother to do a search on phantom grip. So how would you know if welded is "half assed"

EDIT: I refuse to believe that you serached. Found this on the very first page of the search.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...t=phantom+grip

chlatboy · 09-27-2005, 10:23 AM

Like what was said thousands of times before, one of the only bang for your buck mod would be a welded diff. But forget about welded. Phantom for the win!!

Get 3 or 4 of them so that you wont have to pay more shipping every time one breaks.

09-25-2005, 09:06 PM	#1
Omega47 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Murrieta Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	LSD conversion? I was searching on ebay for an LSD rear for my s13,and i saw this... LSD Insert Have searched a few times on this forum and others,cant seem to find anyone who has used this,what do you think? Will it work? Worth it?

09-25-2005, 09:44 PM	#4
ranisron Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 43 Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I suggest you click on the search button.... welded diff -> 2 way lsd at all times, so no limiste slip, but locked at all time. __________________ U13 and S13 zilvia members are friendly

09-25-2005, 10:37 PM	#6
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Phantom Slip, We eat spider gears for breakfast! __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

09-25-2005, 11:57 PM	#7
chlatboy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,252 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	2 ways can disengages removing the chirping, tire wear that welded diffs come with. But 2 way LSDs and run deep into your pockets!! __________________ If you dont know SEARCH!!!

09-26-2005, 07:21 AM	#8
broken_s13 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: pomona CA Posts: 186 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It says when cornering and braking it act likes a clutch type, and under acceleration it gives power to both wheels. Sounds like a 1.5 way to me. But cheeper. From the looks of the way it was designed, itll probably wear the spider grears down. Give it a try. i __________________

09-25-2005, 09:42 PM	#3
Sonic Motor www.SonicMotor.com Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 4981 N Irwindale Ave #100, Irwindale, CA Posts: 9,481 Trader Rating: (113) Feedback Score: 113 reviews	any disadvantages to welding the diff??? If welding diff can achieve a 2way LSD effect, why are there even 2 way LSDs?

09-25-2005, 10:29 PM	#5
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 39 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Welded the diff makes it 100% locked, ie, a solid 2way. Advantages : earlier initiation, faster cornering, knowing when it'll slip Disadvan. : understeer, chirping, and being JDM Tyte.

09-26-2005, 10:54 AM	#9
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	No. Don't.

09-26-2005, 11:19 AM	#10
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	this shit is so old the phantom grip is a pos it WILL break under drifting or hard driving circumstances, ist been tested by regular folks, and it failed quit being cheap and either weld your diff or shell out for a real LSD (hlsd, vlsd, lsd clutch) __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

09-26-2005, 11:47 AM	#11
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	actually, isn't it just being stupid? That's more expensive than a junkyard VLSD, and maybe more expensive than a Welded diff

09-26-2005, 11:56 AM	#12
chlatboy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,252 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	buy it and see how it works. You can learn a good lesson from it. You get what you pay for and dont be cheap with stuff u put on your car. Only cheap mod that have seemed to work fine would be a welded diff. __________________ If you dont know SEARCH!!!

09-26-2005, 11:59 AM	#13
thekman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: midwest Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah that is a pos

09-26-2005, 12:10 PM	#14
P_s14 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Age: 39 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I bought a VLSD off a j30 for less than that __________________

09-26-2005, 02:48 PM	#16
Omega47 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Murrieta Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You guys dont seem to understand i asked an opinion of it,no where did i say i was going to get it...and i wont weld the diff that is half assed. I said i was looking for an LSD and saw this.

09-26-2005, 02:53 PM	#17
ranisron Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 43 Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what's wrong with welded diff? do a quick search on welded diff, and see if you like it. I rode in an S13 with welded diff, didn't feel anything awkward, other than... in reverse. hhaaa. __________________ U13 and S13 zilvia members are friendly

09-26-2005, 08:50 PM	#19
Toka Motorsports Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: STL Posts: 104 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	there is no point to weld a diff... me and some freinds tried it on a Rustang(mustang) the gears will weld but the welds crack apart even from the lighest driving. we opened the diff and welded everything that touched and even welded some steel strips onto the gears... but it still cracked like crusty bread.. later we put like half an inch of extra steel into the diff.. it looked like it was fool proof but the power from the four cylinder rustang ripped the welds aprat again... and we ended up buying a junk yard diff to replace the ruined one... it may work on some diffs but running the car hard... it will crack...

09-27-2005, 10:23 AM	#23
chlatboy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,252 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Like what was said thousands of times before, one of the only bang for your buck mod would be a welded diff. But forget about welded. Phantom for the win!! Get 3 or 4 of them so that you wont have to pay more shipping every time one breaks. __________________ If you dont know SEARCH!!!