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Old 02-06-2005, 12:23 AM   #1
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HID the right way.

Here's some pics of the retro I did in my zenki. Projectors are E46/TT singles with 4100k burners. Damn fluted lenses are killing me! cutoff is really blurry and they are throwing quite a bit of glare by projector standards. Not as much as it looks like in the pics but still a good amount. I'm getting clear lenses soon hopefully which will mean even more light on the road and less glare. Oh yea, and a razor sharp cutoff.

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from about 4 feet.




Lenses look yellow dispite sanding and polishing. Hopefully they'll be gone soon.






There is nowhere near this much color in real life.










Haha, you can see my power steering cooler in between my lights.









Where I soldered the wire onto my turn signal stalk. With the wire soldered in here, low beams don't turn off when you turn high beams on.

Sorry, no tripod. I suck at cameras.
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you have any pics w/ the glass cover off? what did you use to aim/hold the projector?

my friend did a similar setup in his camry and he's using zip ties?!
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very good job man. Umm....that's not too much glare at all, but your cutoff isn't too sharp due to the lense. Are you getting the Final Connections clear lenses?

anyway, if it makes you feel any better, on Kouki headlights, there's actaully more glare above the cutoff, kinda sucks due to the glass design.
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only pics of the retro itself are on my phone, really low quality. I used 4 screws to hold it onto my stock reflector. Drill the holes and bolt it in. Obviously it's more complicated than that, but that's the jist of it.

Turdz: you can't tell from the pics, but street signs get lit up like the headlights are pointed at them. haha But i'm glad it's sharper than koukis. When I get clear lenses it'll be razor sharp so i'm not worried for the mean time.
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I guess this is a different kind of right way.




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Wow slidin240, very unique, but don't steal the original guy's glory....haha, j/k. Those are valeo ece's aren't they?
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NO NO, not at all. I give you alot of credit rbs14 . Retrofitting is no easy task. I am glad to find someone else that has taken the challenge, only know 1 more person that has done this to the zenki. Yes, I did use ece hid valeo's. The space is tighter than a _____ (fill in the blank). I had to realign the driver side one and it was like doing the whole retrofit over again. Now it is a very simple thing to do but take lots of hours, little knowledge and *hitloads of patience, 10-30 actual work hours. My next possible retro is a bi-xenon maxima projector in a sentra.
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only thing I meant by right way was OEM HID projectors. not a drop-in kit.

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Very nice work and thanks for the info Scott.
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RBS,
I dont think anyone offers a drop in kit for the zenkis. Still a great job you did. Get those final konnexion covers.

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Old 02-07-2005, 11:08 AM   #11
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Pay money for headlight covers? bah.

Scooter you gotta tell me where you got those projectors... My silvia lights are aching to be retrofitted...
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I'd love some HI-Ds, I hate driving in the pitch black dark and not being able to see shit.

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Nice job I'm gonna start working on my retro-fit this summer...where'd you get your projectors from..and where did you find the info to do the install? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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everything you need to know about retrofitting is at www.hidplanet.com I got my projectors in the f/s section there too.

John: I'll send up the stock lenses soon so Linda can make me some new ones. Woot!
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RBS- how about trying the sanding method to clear the lenses? yes www.hidplanet.com is a great forum. The yoffer a kit for about $420 with basically everything you need. Make sure you take measurements.
The projectors that fit in zenki reflectors are:
audi ece hid
bmw x5
e46

Read into fresnel lens, hid vs halogen projectors, ballasts, all these little things and more make a difference.

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RBS- how about trying the sanding method to clear the lenses? yes www.hidplanet.com is a great forum. The yoffer a kit for about $420 with basically everything you need. Make sure you take measurements.
The projectors that fit in zenki reflectors are:
audi ece hid
bmw x5
e46

Read into fresnel lens, hid vs halogen projectors, ballasts, all these little things and more make a difference.

Wishing you the best,
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I was wondering if the X5's fit...Thanks BTW, do you guys have intercoolers? Did you use a smaller bat...and did it effect the set up or did you run everything to the back?

Carlos I sent you a PM.
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I have an optima redtop in my car. No intercooler in my car. I have responded to your pm.
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I tried sanding an extra lens I had lying around, and after 4 hours I had gotten virtually nowhere. I don't have the time or patience for that.

A friend is vacuum molding some clear ones for me, so I got that covered.

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wondering where u can get the clear lenses for the zenki headlights
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If e46 projectors work.. would the angel eyes work?
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RBS14 that seems like a lot of glare to me from an oncomer's POV. how much worse can it get? And how much different is that from a drop in kit like Jeff sells? anyone got pics to compare?
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Here's how much worse it can get.


And the worst!


Not my kit. Just something I laughed at when browsing 240sxforums. Place is only good for laughs.
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It can get way worse. And once I get the clear lenses, the cutoff will be razor sharp, so this is just temporary, couple months max.

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Jeff, I'm using e46 and they fit fine. There's a little more room to work with, but not much. These projectors are some of the best out there, so it was a no-brainer for me. They're the smallest OEM HID projector produced to date.
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For those with flip ups, don't get all discouraged, just look at the H4 housing and don't ever buy one like that. All those fancy crystal clear ones are useless directional wise. Put in my HIDs from Jeff's buy yesterday and they have a good cutoff, you can generally tell how they are going to look by looking at the headlight designs, I'll post pics once I get my camera back. Now whats gonna happen in the rain, I have no idea....
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What size are those E46 projectors? The one I have are 2.25" and I considering using those in my friend's Zenki S14. Also I thought the S2K projectors were the smallest OEM units. Question: where did you find the 15A fuse holder? I can't find one locally...I've look at all the auto places. :/
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I got mine at radio shack.

yea, e46 are about 2 3/4" lens. The bowl is the small part tho, most are larger in some way. S2k are slightly larger. I'd definately recommend the e46 projectors, especially now that we know they fit.

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what about stock s13 silvia projectors?
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work great, my friend has some 8000K on his
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the fact that you think 8000k is even worth mentioning gives me more than enough reason to doubt how good the silvia projectors are with HID in them. Most halogen projectors handle HID better than most reflectors, but still not near up to par with OEM HID projectors. But like I said in the other thread, whatever floats your boat. Only problem is that it affects other drivers big time in a bad way, which is not cool.
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the fact that you think 8000k is even worth mentioning gives me more than enough reason to doubt how good the silvia projectors are with HID in them. Most halogen projectors handle HID better than most reflectors, but still not near up to par with OEM HID projectors. But like I said in the other thread, whatever floats your boat. Only problem is that it affects other drivers big time in a bad way, which is not cool.
I've driven accross from him towards him in front of him bla bla bla and other than the fact that his car bounces up and down never had a problem.
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