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DUBCITY · 12-09-2005, 06:26 PM

So i was searching ebay for a gt28rs when I came upon this:
*BAM* Ebay link deleted
It doesnt say garrett on it anywhere, but they claim its a gt28rs. I know SSACs reputation as far as turbos go, but this is damn cheap for a gt28rs, if it really is one. Just wondering, has anyone had any experience with this EXACT turbo? (I know about the other shitty turbos they make). If it really is a dual BB GT28RS, then it seems like it would be a steal.

(also funny how they claim it maxes out at approx 520hp, HAHA out of a GT28)

nlzmo400r · 12-09-2005, 09:13 PM

can't be a gt28rs. May be their 'version' of one. Oh, and 575hp, SUURE.

waynehead05 · 12-09-2005, 09:32 PM

a disco potato can't handle 575 hp.

SSAC lied on this one

go240 · 12-09-2005, 10:32 PM

i wouldn't get it

besides they call it a t3t4 gt28rs at the bottom

big_schaf · 12-09-2005, 11:04 PM

I'd delete the link before you get in shit

JustMe · 12-10-2005, 02:45 AM

I have a GT28RS sitting in my closet right now, and that is not a Garrett GT28RS, just more SSAC shyte turbos.

Eternal_240Sx · 12-10-2005, 10:41 AM

Fuckin SSAC is BS. Those turbos are manufactured in China and are crap, which you prolly know already. Form reviews that I read turbos from them usually last like two months if your lucky. They just call it gt28rs to try to trick you into thinking that its a garrett when they dont put garrett in the auction. I think I read somewhere that they have a lawsuit pending agianst them because of this.

sLiDewAys · 12-10-2005, 11:39 AM

hahhaa yeah? a lawsuit? crazy talk.

blue109 · 12-10-2005, 04:20 PM

a real garret GT turbo will have the little plate on it.

nigel1 · 12-10-2005, 04:27 PM

any more info on this subject? because for that price im ultra tempted...

it seems like this would be better than getting a junkyard turbo...

blue109 · 12-10-2005, 05:19 PM

probably not. ive known three people with ssa turbos that have blown up without too many miles. i damn sure wouldnt trust a BB turbo from them, if it even is BB.

Tygma · 12-10-2005, 05:47 PM

on their website it says Disco Potato style.

nigel1 · 12-11-2005, 01:16 AM

damn... Two friends both with ssac turbos that have died? imagine that...

are you for real??? can you give examples, and explain if it wasn't a user error, like bad return line, or not running a turbo timer?

Eternal_240Sx · 12-11-2005, 02:35 AM

Why would you even be tempted? Something like a turbo is way to important to "go cheap on". I think the price itself should scare you away from buying it. Think about why it would be so cheap. If you search im sure you will find the thread with the one guy that ran ssac or "xspower" turbo for like a day or two iirc the whole thing fell apart and he found out that the housing was held on by glue!

speeddreamz · 12-11-2005, 02:44 AM

don't talk about my superglue/jb weld like that :hammer:

we put it on lawrences block...lol

anyhow, ssa is a joke, if you go cheap u might have to go more expensive later on to dig yourself out. stick with the middle or high road.

cotbu · 12-11-2005, 03:00 AM

For the price of that turbo, you could buy it and rebuild it with garrett parts and it still would be cheaper than an actual disco potato.

******* bandwagon jumpers
somebody somewhere knows somebody whom __________________________________________________ ____________
fill in the blank
Buy the turbo run extreme tests, then post the results after that sell the turbo to me. I'll rebuild it, make 350hp; sell my car with the tagline....250+ hp
The more I'm here the less I Like it. More hacking i always say.

Oh yeah! Don't PM call me so we handle this like cave*******men!
search previous post for the number

ryan hagen · 12-11-2005, 11:28 AM

i ve noticed after one guy posted that the turbo was glued together that every one has a a friend that this happend too, i wouldnt buy their turbos though, i bought a real GT2871R and i did buy a ssac manifold for it, then traded some stuff to get a second one, as a back up for when the first one cracks, cause almost ever style manifold like that will crack some day.

wootwoot · 12-11-2005, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cotbu

For the price of that turbo, you could buy it and rebuild it with garrett parts and it still would be cheaper than an actual disco potato.

A new chra is about 850 bucks from Garrett which is the only way to "rebuild" a GT series turbo

Nizzan4u2nv · 12-11-2005, 12:49 PM

Yea, gt turbos are not so easily rebuildable as journal bearing t25/t28s. I would not even consider one of those. Ive seen seals go on those after a week, and spit oil everwhere.

Silverbullet · 12-11-2005, 01:41 PM

I know a few ppl who run SSAC turbos. Dosn't seem like any of them have had any problems with their turbos yet but im sure they aren't as reliable as the real things. One of them has blown their motor though however lol.

Nismo180 · 12-11-2005, 02:42 PM

I know this about SSAC I bought their mani-downpipe pack for my SR and I have now replaced EVERYONE of their peices. The downpipe never fit in the first place, the flange on the dp-02housing part was askew so it just plain wouldn't fit, try E-mailing them, you'll find out why I had to just eat that one(they reply to NOTHING)
Their "deviated" 02 housing with the seperate path for the wastegate, well I was getting alot of rattling in there so I took the turbo off for the third time (had to I had exhuast leaks between the head and turbo for the 4th time at that point) Found out the little divider plate that they just rivit to the turbo extension tube had come out and was bouncing around in there, 02 housing down, again attemts to contact didn't work.
Turbo manifold: this one is GREAT! after two new SR20DE gaskets and new 300ZX gaskets I still couldn't get a good seal for the gasses before the turbo. So when I took it all off and had to hunt down a new turbo extension anyway I went and had the flanges checked for flatness(is that a word) and came to find out two things 1. they were warped bad. 2. they were mild steel MILD F'N STEEL ON A TURBO MANI!!! They told me they could plane them, but they would just warp again, well I need a mani so I said yeah, plane them I'll make it work. Threw it back in and after 4 times coming in and out two days after I got the manifold back in THE THREADS FELL OUT OF THE FLANGE all four studs fell out of the manifold and dropped my turbo to hang on the downpipe. In the course of about 20mins trying to limp the thing back home.

I would go NA before I put an SSAC turbo on my car. You can't contact them, I looked up their buisness license in their state, the address on there apperatly doesn't exist, the phone number is disconnected, they are as shizty as can be. Good enough for you bargain hunters? I just dropped 1k on a whole new exhuast system(DC mani, Greddy 02, and catless DP) and it could have gone much better places.

Gnnr · 12-11-2005, 05:12 PM

Why buy SSAC? Do it right the first time. If you buy one then blow it, you would wish you would have waited/spent a little more and gotten a better product. You get what you pay for. A higher cost turbo will have better build quility, guarantee, warranty, etc.

1121S13 · 12-11-2005, 08:07 PM

wtf, I wouldnt buy any critical parts off Ebay. I would never buy a turbo from Ebay, but thats just me.

cotbu · 12-11-2005, 08:37 PM

great comment 1121S13, but there are places that sell genuine products on ebay.

wootwoot and the feeder fish, I said I would rebuild the turbo as in ME.
I purchased a Lot of 6 3GT 3T series turbo rebuild kits for 350+30 only to loose an auction for a gt28rs "disco potato". I used one to rebuild a turbo for turbo man. I am holding out for a genuine potato, but the prices look so tempting @ SSAC

I also purchased Tein HA HR coilovers cause everybodies got'em

aa87 · 12-11-2005, 10:18 PM

Honda-tech thread where ssac turbo breaks in half!

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1097918

nigel1 · 12-11-2005, 10:30 PM

Fuck! ^^^^^^^^^

rossfashow · 12-11-2005, 11:23 PM

why not weld that turbo back together... lol

codyace · 12-12-2005, 03:31 AM

As I've done in other SSAC threads

A buddy of mine bought an ebay turbo just for the hell of it. Here is what we got:

Painted Exhaus Housing, with a Cast letter "X" on it. No official numbers or stamps cast into anything, 2 bent studs in the turbine housing, and to mention the thing had shaft play 'factory' Yippee!!!

VS: His real Garrett T3/T4 through an official Garrett Distributor (PW Diesel)

You be the judge. Cheapness will always own you. If you can't afford a real turbo from the start, than you probably shouldn't be boosting, as you've probably half assed on other parts too.

nigel1 · 12-14-2005, 02:48 AM

all I have to say is... this is a great thread.

I think this should be stickied personally, because I know there are a ton of people like myself that want to get their ka on some boost, and are tempted by these shitty ebay turbos, and arent sure if they should or shouldn't get one.

seriously, thanks.

this thread cleared up so much for me, and im sure many others.

hellion240sx · 12-14-2005, 11:55 AM

i have been screwed over by ssac as well a long time ago with an intake system. no contact after i returned the product so they got the intake and my money! FOCK SSAC! i will never buy anything from them. too many horror stories from everyone else as well. ebay listings are all a bunch of lies. half of it doens't make sense sometimes. hope their houses burn down! sorry got a little angry! bleh...

12-09-2005, 06:26 PM	#1
DUBCITY Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Redondo Beach, Ca Age: 41 Posts: 596 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	SSAC "Disco Potato" GT28RS? So i was searching ebay for a gt28rs when I came upon this: BAM Ebay link deleted It doesnt say garrett on it anywhere, but they claim its a gt28rs. I know SSACs reputation as far as turbos go, but this is damn cheap for a gt28rs, if it really is one. Just wondering, has anyone had any experience with this EXACT turbo? (I know about the other shitty turbos they make). If it really is a dual BB GT28RS, then it seems like it would be a steal. (also funny how they claim it maxes out at approx 520hp, HAHA out of a GT28) __________________ Keep your eyes peeled for Project DUBCITY! Last edited by Phlip; 12-10-2005 at 05:23 PM..

12-09-2005, 09:13 PM	#2
nlzmo400r Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: louisiana Posts: 1,248 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	can't be a gt28rs. May be their 'version' of one. Oh, and 575hp, SUURE. __________________ 'my drinking team has a racing problem' [email protected] - gt32 .6bar

12-09-2005, 09:32 PM	#3
waynehead05 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dallas Age: 38 Posts: 466 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	a disco potato can't handle 575 hp. SSAC lied on this one __________________ Who in their right mind would want to lead this nation of Me-First Right-Now Do Nothings??

12-09-2005, 10:32 PM	#4
go240 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: minnesota Age: 39 Posts: 261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i wouldn't get it besides they call it a t3t4 gt28rs at the bottom __________________

12-09-2005, 11:04 PM	#5
big_schaf Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: British Columbia Age: 37 Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'd delete the link before you get in shit __________________ 90 s13 dd, 90 s13 track, 90 ae92 winter

12-10-2005, 02:45 AM	#6
JustMe Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 66 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I have a GT28RS sitting in my closet right now, and that is not a Garrett GT28RS, just more SSAC shyte turbos.

12-10-2005, 10:41 AM	#7
Eternal_240Sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: norcal, bay area Age: 41 Posts: 674 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Fuckin SSAC is BS. Those turbos are manufactured in China and are crap, which you prolly know already. Form reviews that I read turbos from them usually last like two months if your lucky. They just call it gt28rs to try to trick you into thinking that its a garrett when they dont put garrett in the auction. I think I read somewhere that they have a lawsuit pending agianst them because of this. __________________ Life is good in the bay.

12-10-2005, 11:39 AM	#8
sLiDewAys Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco, Ca Age: 39 Posts: 1,787 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	hahhaa yeah? a lawsuit? crazy talk. __________________

12-10-2005, 04:20 PM	#9
blue109 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: tucson AZ Age: 47 Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	a real garret GT turbo will have the little plate on it. __________________ The fire and ice combination adjourns fresh I return with the last living specimen caress when the earth is vacated and the populous cleared ill be the last starfighter sipping a goblet of my tears

12-10-2005, 04:27 PM	#10
nigel1 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fresno Ca Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	any more info on this subject? because for that price im ultra tempted... it seems like this would be better than getting a junkyard turbo... __________________ +0 offset PWNS me

12-10-2005, 05:19 PM	#11
blue109 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: tucson AZ Age: 47 Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	probably not. ive known three people with ssa turbos that have blown up without too many miles. i damn sure wouldnt trust a BB turbo from them, if it even is BB. __________________ The fire and ice combination adjourns fresh I return with the last living specimen caress when the earth is vacated and the populous cleared ill be the last starfighter sipping a goblet of my tears

12-10-2005, 05:47 PM	#12
Tygma Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 965 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	on their website it says Disco Potato style. __________________ My review forum

12-11-2005, 01:16 AM	#13
nigel1 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fresno Ca Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn... Two friends both with ssac turbos that have died? imagine that... are you for real??? can you give examples, and explain if it wasn't a user error, like bad return line, or not running a turbo timer? __________________ +0 offset PWNS me

12-11-2005, 02:35 AM	#14
Eternal_240Sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: norcal, bay area Age: 41 Posts: 674 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Why would you even be tempted? Something like a turbo is way to important to "go cheap on". I think the price itself should scare you away from buying it. Think about why it would be so cheap. If you search im sure you will find the thread with the one guy that ran ssac or "xspower" turbo for like a day or two iirc the whole thing fell apart and he found out that the housing was held on by glue! __________________ Life is good in the bay.

12-11-2005, 02:44 AM	#15
speeddreamz Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco, California Age: 40 Posts: 1,015 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	don't talk about my superglue/jb weld like that :hammer: we put it on lawrences block...lol anyhow, ssa is a joke, if you go cheap u might have to go more expensive later on to dig yourself out. stick with the middle or high road.

12-11-2005, 03:00 AM	#16
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 50 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	For the price of that turbo, you could buy it and rebuild it with garrett parts and it still would be cheaper than an actual disco potato. ***** bandwagon jumpers somebody somewhere knows somebody whom __________________________________________________ ____________ fill in the blank Buy the turbo run extreme tests, then post the results after that sell the turbo to me. I'll rebuild it, make 350hp; sell my car with the tagline....250+ hp The more I'm here the less I Like it. More hacking i always say. Oh yeah! Don't PM call me so we handle this like cave***men! search previous post for the number __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"**

12-11-2005, 11:28 AM	#17
ryan hagen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: rhinelander wisconsin Age: 42 Posts: 1,465 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	i ve noticed after one guy posted that the turbo was glued together that every one has a a friend that this happend too, i wouldnt buy their turbos though, i bought a real GT2871R and i did buy a ssac manifold for it, then traded some stuff to get a second one, as a back up for when the first one cracks, cause almost ever style manifold like that will crack some day. __________________ 1990 hatch ka24de gt2871r

12-11-2005, 12:49 PM	#19
Nizzan4u2nv Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 40 Posts: 1,226 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Yea, gt turbos are not so easily rebuildable as journal bearing t25/t28s. I would not even consider one of those. Ive seen seals go on those after a week, and spit oil everwhere. __________________

12-11-2005, 02:42 PM	#21
Nismo180 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bonney Lake, WA Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know this about SSAC I bought their mani-downpipe pack for my SR and I have now replaced EVERYONE of their peices. The downpipe never fit in the first place, the flange on the dp-02housing part was askew so it just plain wouldn't fit, try E-mailing them, you'll find out why I had to just eat that one(they reply to NOTHING) Their "deviated" 02 housing with the seperate path for the wastegate, well I was getting alot of rattling in there so I took the turbo off for the third time (had to I had exhuast leaks between the head and turbo for the 4th time at that point) Found out the little divider plate that they just rivit to the turbo extension tube had come out and was bouncing around in there, 02 housing down, again attemts to contact didn't work. Turbo manifold: this one is GREAT! after two new SR20DE gaskets and new 300ZX gaskets I still couldn't get a good seal for the gasses before the turbo. So when I took it all off and had to hunt down a new turbo extension anyway I went and had the flanges checked for flatness(is that a word) and came to find out two things 1. they were warped bad. 2. they were mild steel MILD F'N STEEL ON A TURBO MANI!!! They told me they could plane them, but they would just warp again, well I need a mani so I said yeah, plane them I'll make it work. Threw it back in and after 4 times coming in and out two days after I got the manifold back in THE THREADS FELL OUT OF THE FLANGE all four studs fell out of the manifold and dropped my turbo to hang on the downpipe. In the course of about 20mins trying to limp the thing back home. I would go NA before I put an SSAC turbo on my car. You can't contact them, I looked up their buisness license in their state, the address on there apperatly doesn't exist, the phone number is disconnected, they are as shizty as can be. Good enough for you bargain hunters? I just dropped 1k on a whole new exhuast system(DC mani, Greddy 02, and catless DP) and it could have gone much better places.

12-11-2005, 05:12 PM	#22
Gnnr Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S. FL Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why buy SSAC? Do it right the first time. If you buy one then blow it, you would wish you would have waited/spent a little more and gotten a better product. You get what you pay for. A higher cost turbo will have better build quility, guarantee, warranty, etc.

12-11-2005, 08:07 PM	#23
1121S13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So KALI! Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	wtf, I wouldnt buy any critical parts off Ebay. I would never buy a turbo from Ebay, but thats just me.

12-11-2005, 08:37 PM	#24
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 50 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	great comment 1121S13, but there are places that sell genuine products on ebay. wootwoot and the feeder fish, I said I would rebuild the turbo as in ME. I purchased a Lot of 6 3GT 3T series turbo rebuild kits for 350+30 only to loose an auction for a gt28rs "disco potato". I used one to rebuild a turbo for turbo man. I am holding out for a genuine potato, but the prices look so tempting @ SSAC I also purchased Tein HA HR coilovers cause everybodies got'em __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"

12-11-2005, 10:18 PM	#25
aa87 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shreveport, LA Age: 37 Posts: 1,116 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Honda-tech thread where ssac turbo breaks in half! http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1097918

12-11-2005, 10:30 PM	#26
nigel1 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fresno Ca Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Fuck! ^^^^^^^^^ __________________ +0 offset PWNS me

12-11-2005, 11:23 PM	#27
rossfashow Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: fresno/clovis, CA Age: 38 Posts: 387 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why not weld that turbo back together... lol

12-12-2005, 03:31 AM	#28
codyace Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poconos, PA Age: 40 Posts: 8,030 Trader Rating: (58) Feedback Score: 58 reviews	As I've done in other SSAC threads A buddy of mine bought an ebay turbo just for the hell of it. Here is what we got: Painted Exhaus Housing, with a Cast letter "X" on it. No official numbers or stamps cast into anything, 2 bent studs in the turbine housing, and to mention the thing had shaft play 'factory' Yippee!!! VS: His real Garrett T3/T4 through an official Garrett Distributor (PW Diesel) You be the judge. Cheapness will always own you. If you can't afford a real turbo from the start, than you probably shouldn't be boosting, as you've probably half assed on other parts too. __________________ *Want Air Conditioning in your SR20 Swapped car? Check out www.sr20acbrackets.com for more information! Quest Alternator Conversions for SR20!* Check my Group Buy! Tired of lousy internal gates? Go external wastegate with one of my manifolds, Check out my group buy

12-14-2005, 02:48 AM	#29
nigel1 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fresno Ca Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	all I have to say is... this is a great thread. I think this should be stickied personally, because I know there are a ton of people like myself that want to get their ka on some boost, and are tempted by these shitty ebay turbos, and arent sure if they should or shouldn't get one. seriously, thanks. this thread cleared up so much for me, and im sure many others. __________________ +0 offset PWNS me

12-14-2005, 11:55 AM	#30
hellion240sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 43 Posts: 1,514 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have been screwed over by ssac as well a long time ago with an intake system. no contact after i returned the product so they got the intake and my money! FOCK SSAC! i will never buy anything from them. too many horror stories from everyone else as well. ebay listings are all a bunch of lies. half of it doens't make sense sometimes. hope their houses burn down! sorry got a little angry! bleh...