What's the big deal w/ the wrx - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

nrcooled · 05-12-2002, 04:34 PM

On the real I will start off like this, the WRX is a nice looking ride and has a great power plant that has huge potential but we all still have beautiful 240s that w/ the propper work can out handle, out accelerate, and out perform the WRX.

After I did the swap I went out civic hunting (not hard to find 'em in my area) and found a WRX that was willing and waiting. After a he got a jump on me off the line (I had some wheel spin) I caught him fairly easily and pulled ahead.

Now that was just random street shenanagins at the track (road course) front and rear sway bars, coilovers (or a nice spring shock setup) and good tires will put you on the right track to absolutely dismantiling the WRX at the track

As far a auto-x I don't have any experience so I have no clue and won't even front like I know what's up <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'> I figure the 'rex would be better because the RWD 240 doesn't like low speed sharp turns (drift pigs <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Either way they are nice cars just not worth all the hype they get.  SR powered 240s are the shit and don't you forget it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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rubbersidedown · 05-12-2002, 04:42 PM

first off, the wrx is known for is rally capabilities. It does its best work in the dirt. I know quite a bit about the rally wrx's but as far as the street ones go, i'm not all that sure. But personally i really don't see a whole lot of comparison between the two.

DragonReborn214 · 05-12-2002, 04:47 PM

I think they are worth the hype.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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*ca18guy* · 05-12-2002, 04:47 PM

Whats your question? You say "the WRX is a nice looking ride and has a great power plant that has huge potential" well you partly answer the title to this thread. The WRX isn't that hyped IMHO, but what do you expect it's the only cheap turbo import that you can buy brand new.

nrcooled · 05-12-2002, 04:48 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rubbersidedown @ May 12 2002,6:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">first off, the wrx is known for is rally capabilities. It does its best work in the dirt. I know quite a bit about the rally wrx's but as far as the street ones go, i'm not all that sure. But personally i really don't see a whole lot of comparison between the two.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
How many people are going to actually use it for that.  Everyone knows the worthness of the 'rex in the dirt but we my friend live in a world full of asphalt.  That's where the shit goes down here <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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tnord · 05-12-2002, 05:05 PM

the WRX is the most easily upgradeable turbo equiped car since the mid 90's with the RX7, SupraTT, 300ZXTT, etc. but yet you can get into a WRX for what, 24k? c'mon, you can't deny it's sweetness.  my 98 240 se was about 24k new, and the WRX would rip me a new asshole.  that race where you supposedly walked away from him from, i'm gonna call shinanigans. assuming you got a redtop and no other mods (the only way you can even slightly justify comparing the 2) you should have what, 205hp at best? WRX has you beat by 22hp i think. i know it's heavier than you are, but it should also get a better launch. in the end i would say that it should be a very close race, so i doubt the WRX guy was trying very hard.

and that whole thing about "dismantling" the WRX at the track is a load of horseshit as well. you can't compare a stock WRX against a 240 with all that suspension work. lets equally equip both cars and see what happens shall we?

in conclusion, you're not as sweet as you think you are.

SR20Fastback · 05-12-2002, 05:12 PM

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Thank you for the cliffnotes tnord <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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nrcooled · 05-12-2002, 05:31 PM

You my friend can call shenanigans but I don't have a stock redtop (I have no idea what all he had)  

And call me cheap (or broke as shit)  But 24k is a lot of money to me!  I took the money I was going to use to buy a WRX and just put it into the redtop and mods

Once I get to take some new pics of my baby modded I will post (can't wait to get her dyno'd)  But I know for a fact I am making more hp than a WRX. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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I love starting shit! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Takumi · 05-12-2002, 05:47 PM

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Ah, now I remember why I don't visit this board that often.  It's just the thickheaded people just start too much shit about everyone else who doesn't drive a 240SX. damn elitists. -_-

nrcooled · 05-12-2002, 05:59 PM

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In all actuallity they are sweet.  I was going to get one but decided to put the money into the current ride.  They handle well and look nice.  With mods can put out 300hp easy.  They are worth the hype <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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I don't know if anyone read Bonzai but they had an article about the euro version of 'rex, sti, and impreza and they were putting out some sick numbers on the dyno <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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SR20Fastback · 05-12-2002, 06:15 PM

isnt the sti supposed to put out somethin like 280bhp?

DragonReborn214 · 05-12-2002, 06:28 PM

That's nothing... Look at this!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'>

<a href="http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/engineblock3.html" target='_blank'>http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/engineblock3.html</a>

Takumi · 05-12-2002, 06:46 PM

Hey Dragon, how much did you get your Scooby?  Cuz around here in Nor Cal, they're going for around $23k.

DragonReborn214 · 05-12-2002, 06:50 PM

More than that, sadly... I got alot of options at around $24,300.

misnomer · 05-12-2002, 06:58 PM

For the love of God Dragon, shrink your sig!!! Half of this thread has been that bigass pick of your wrx (with a lot of border) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Anyhow, down to business. I don't think anybody could knock the WRX if they knew what they were talking about. $23k for that power and handling is unheard of from any other manufacturer. Needless to say, my (other) sister will be leaving her rex for me to play with for a coupla weeks, and I'll gladly park my s13 for that time.

DragonReborn214 · 05-12-2002, 07:16 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ May 12 2002,11:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For the love of God Dragon, shrink your sig!!! Half of this thread has been that bigass pick of your wrx (with a lot of border) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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There... a little smaller.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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*transient* · 05-12-2002, 07:26 PM

Though still not small enough I'm afraid.

SimpleS14 · 05-12-2002, 08:19 PM

WRX is way better than the 240SX, stock for stock.  You have to put alot of money to get a 240 at the same level or better than a WRX.  Thats time and alot of patience.  The WRX is a good car and the aftermarket is nice....real nice  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Love that car, can't wait tell the STi comes over here.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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*AceInHole* · 05-12-2002, 09:14 PM

all i know is i'm behind one WRX by .124 seconds..... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

*sykikchimp* · 05-12-2002, 10:21 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ May 12 2002,6:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The WRX isn't that hyped IMHO, but what do you expect it's the only cheap turbo import that you can buy brand new.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
VW, Golf 1.8t and Jetta 1.8T.. Easily moddable, and in my opinion, better lookin than the wrx.   and the Audi TT has a 220bhp turbo engine (same engine in the VW's but w/ more boost.)

Kreator · 05-12-2002, 11:15 PM

I often see wrxs on the road... and from constant looking at them i don't see anything special except for a 4wd and a turbo.... there is no beauty in it. So you can call me biased or whatever, but i'd rather turbo my 240...

Kre

DragonReborn214 · 05-12-2002, 11:36 PM

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sil80 · 05-12-2002, 11:48 PM

WRX's rule................skylines rule, GTI's rule, Renaults rule,..... ooo ya 240s rule...
The thing is there are a lot of car that kick ass and all of them get attention so I dont see why you are labelling just the WRX.
Being the WRX gives out equal performance if not better then most of the those car but at only 24k there you can see why a lot of people are excited about it.
If you put a equally modded(doesnt matter on the amount of mods) S13 and a WRX together the wrx would probably always win... that is unless you were having a drift contest. Well, I dont event know about that cause awd drive drifts are pretty cool.
I guess in conclusion I dont see way people need to be negative towards another car for any reason..

FastNissan · 05-12-2002, 11:50 PM

From my experience of going to the drag strip I have seen a couple of WRX's with no visible mods, i.e. no exhaust, one put down a 13.4, the other was a sport wagon WRX and it ran 13.6.

They are pretty quick cars, and I like the awd for on the dirt, ice and snow.  My first car was a 4wd Subaru, so I am kind of partial to them.

BlackFox · 05-13-2002, 02:06 AM

Drive a WRX around a corner at 90mph and you'll understand, i can't explain it to you. I was going to get one but i don't have enough money so i got a 240. hehe, Subaru's got a kick ass AWD system and that horozontally opposed engine balances out just like they say.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

*nismo270r* · 05-13-2002, 03:16 AM

I must say...the WRX is one badass car...There's nothing like the sound of a turbo boxer engine...Here's a couple of snaps of my friend's WRX with a CWest body kit, 18" Dronell wheels, and Scooby Sports headlights:

I think the body kit looks nice, but I don't care much for it only because I'm a rally fan, and it makes the car look more "GTish". And I still think I like the STI headlights a lot better...Well, actually the WRC headlights would be the coolest...hehe...ALL KABAN FIBAH! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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adey · 05-13-2002, 05:42 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sykikchimp @ May 12 2002,9:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">VW, Golf 1.8t and Jetta 1.8T.. Easily moddable, and in my opinion, better lookin than the wrx. and the Audi TT has a 220bhp turbo engine (same engine in the VW's but w/ more boost.)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Just FYI, the Audi TT Quattro has a 1.8T engine putting out 225hp, with a K04 turbo and twin SMIC setup.
The VW 1.8T engines (found in the GTi, Golf and Jetta) put out 180hp and has a 1.8 K03 turbocharged single SMIC setup.

I'm not sure if the TT's actually running that much more boost, but the fact that it's got a bigger turbo probably makes up the majority of the larger (225) number.

"chipping" (aftermarket ECU that basically bumps the boost to ~1.1 bar) kicks HP and Torque of the VW 1.8T engines to ~ 200hp and 230lb/ft. That's a big jump for a ~550 dollar chip! And yes, that's a LOT of torque!

edit: I think that's an ugly body kit... just MHO.  There are other WRX headlights that I prefer to your friends, as well as the WRC ones too... I like the heads on the black soob posted earlier by dragonreborn.
soobs are nice. I took a ride in a WRX wagon for a canyon run and I swear, that thing stuck to the road like nothing else!

Kreator · 05-13-2002, 06:23 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FastNissan @ May 13 2002,12:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From my experience of going to the drag strip I have seen a couple of WRX's with no visible mods, i.e. no exhaust, one put down a 13.4, the other was a sport wagon WRX and it ran 13.6.

They are pretty quick cars, and I like the awd for on the dirt, ice and snow. My first car was a 4wd Subaru, so I am kind of partial to them.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hmmm if iirc, there are very few mods you really need to turn up the boost if you already got a turbo... and exhaust isn't the easiest nor the most needed one, you can turn up the boost with a stock exhaust.... So there is your explanation....

Kre

Kreator · 05-13-2002, 06:27 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DragonReborn214 @ May 13 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ May 12 2002,4:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">there is no beauty in it</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

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Well I look at it and it's not that bad.... but then i remember the way my 240 looks and a wrx starts looking like crap.... I mean the car isn't ugly, but if you look at it, there is nothing that really catches your eye or excites you about it.... so unless you know it's performance stats, you don't see more than a sedan in it i guess.... after all it does have 4 doors  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

Kre

HippoSleek · 05-13-2002, 07:03 AM

Okay - First - the sig has GOT to shrink.  That is awful!

I stand by my belief that the WRX is one of the ugliest cars on the road today.  It IS a tremendous out of the box value in terms of performance - but so is a Moosetang.  My favorite thing about it is that it is ONE car that had all that JDM hype bs surrounding it that we got - and it sells.

As for an SR beating a Rex - I think that is totally possible.  Despite having a hp advantage and more traction off the line, the Subies have MASSIVE parasitic drivetrain loss.  That alone is enough to make the hp/tq numbers about equal.  Given the weight advantage of an s13, I think it is very believable.

05-12-2002, 04:34 PM	#1
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 46 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	On the real I will start off like this, the WRX is a nice looking ride and has a great power plant that has huge potential but we all still have beautiful 240s that w/ the propper work can out handle, out accelerate, and out perform the WRX. After I did the swap I went out civic hunting (not hard to find 'em in my area) and found a WRX that was willing and waiting. After a he got a jump on me off the line (I had some wheel spin) I caught him fairly easily and pulled ahead. Now that was just random street shenanagins at the track (road course) front and rear sway bars, coilovers (or a nice spring shock setup) and good tires will put you on the right track to absolutely dismantiling the WRX at the track As far a auto-x I don't have any experience so I have no clue and won't even front like I know what's up <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'> I figure the 'rex would be better because the RWD 240 doesn't like low speed sharp turns (drift pigs <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> ) the ass end loves to come out and get in front of you Either way they are nice cars just not worth all the hype they get.  SR powered 240s are the shit and don't you forget it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

05-12-2002, 04:42 PM	#2
rubbersidedown Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 343 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	first off, the wrx is known for is rally capabilities. It does its best work in the dirt. I know quite a bit about the rally wrx's but as far as the street ones go, i'm not all that sure. But personally i really don't see a whole lot of comparison between the two. __________________ 1991 240sx coupe w/ ca18det Bone stock Purchased but not installed parts: HKS adjustable timing gears Electronic Oil Pressure Guage Apex'i Multichecker t3/t04b turbo Stainless Steel, top mount tubular manifold ARC bov 450cc injectors Spearco FMIC

05-12-2002, 04:47 PM	#3
DragonReborn214 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SoCal Age: 45 Posts: 462 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think they are worth the hype.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

05-12-2002, 04:48 PM	#5
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 46 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rubbersidedown @ May 12 2002,6:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">first off, the wrx is known for is rally capabilities. It does its best work in the dirt. I know quite a bit about the rally wrx's but as far as the street ones go, i'm not all that sure. But personally i really don't see a whole lot of comparison between the two.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> How many people are going to actually use it for that.  Everyone knows the worthness of the 'rex in the dirt but we my friend live in a world full of asphalt.  That's where the shit goes down here <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

05-12-2002, 05:12 PM	#7
SR20Fastback Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Bay Age: 40 Posts: 1,637 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<!--QuoteBegin--tnord+May 12 2002,4<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ May 12 2002,4<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>5)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">in conclusion, you're not as sweet as you think you are.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Thank you for the cliffnotes tnord <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ Fodive STILL blows goats, I have proof.

05-12-2002, 04:47 PM	#4
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Whats your question? You say "the WRX is a nice looking ride and has a great power plant that has huge potential" well you partly answer the title to this thread. The WRX isn't that hyped IMHO, but what do you expect it's the only cheap turbo import that you can buy brand new.

05-12-2002, 05:05 PM	#6
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the WRX is the most easily upgradeable turbo equiped car since the mid 90's with the RX7, SupraTT, 300ZXTT, etc. but yet you can get into a WRX for what, 24k? c'mon, you can't deny it's sweetness.  my 98 240 se was about 24k new, and the WRX would rip me a new asshole.  that race where you supposedly walked away from him from, i'm gonna call shinanigans. assuming you got a redtop and no other mods (the only way you can even slightly justify comparing the 2) you should have what, 205hp at best? WRX has you beat by 22hp i think. i know it's heavier than you are, but it should also get a better launch. in the end i would say that it should be a very close race, so i doubt the WRX guy was trying very hard. and that whole thing about "dismantling" the WRX at the track is a load of horseshit as well. you can't compare a stock WRX against a 240 with all that suspension work. lets equally equip both cars and see what happens shall we? in conclusion, you're not as sweet as you think you are.

05-12-2002, 05:31 PM	#8
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 46 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You my friend can call shenanigans but I don't have a stock redtop (I have no idea what all he had)   And call me cheap (or broke as shit)  But 24k is a lot of money to me!  I took the money I was going to use to buy a WRX and just put it into the redtop and mods Once I get to take some new pics of my baby modded I will post (can't wait to get her dyno'd)  But I know for a fact I am making more hp than a WRX. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> I love starting shit! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>   Can I help it if my car is fast __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

05-12-2002, 05:47 PM	#9
Takumi Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bay Area, CA Age: 43 Posts: 836 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I love starting shit! Can I help it if my car is fast</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Ah, now I remember why I don't visit this board that often.  It's just the thickheaded people just start too much shit about everyone else who doesn't drive a 240SX. damn elitists. -_- __________________ 2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS (GC6) Yes, I am a devoted Scooby driver, but I still got love for the Nissans and I always will. =)

05-12-2002, 05:59 PM	#10
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 46 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DragonReborn214 @ May 12 2002,6:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think they are worth the hype. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> In all actuallity they are sweet.  I was going to get one but decided to put the money into the current ride.  They handle well and look nice.  With mods can put out 300hp easy.  They are worth the hype <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>   But I still love my baby <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> I don't know if anyone read Bonzai but they had an article about the euro version of 'rex, sti, and impreza and they were putting out some sick numbers on the dyno <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

05-12-2002, 06:15 PM	#11
SR20Fastback Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Bay Age: 40 Posts: 1,637 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	isnt the sti supposed to put out somethin like 280bhp? __________________ Fodive STILL blows goats, I have proof.

05-12-2002, 06:28 PM	#12
DragonReborn214 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SoCal Age: 45 Posts: 462 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That's nothing... Look at this!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'> <a href="http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/engineblock3.html" target='_blank'>http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/engineblock3.html</a>

05-12-2002, 06:46 PM	#13
Takumi Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bay Area, CA Age: 43 Posts: 836 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey Dragon, how much did you get your Scooby?  Cuz around here in Nor Cal, they're going for around $23k. __________________ 2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS (GC6) Yes, I am a devoted Scooby driver, but I still got love for the Nissans and I always will. =)

05-12-2002, 06:50 PM	#14
DragonReborn214 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SoCal Age: 45 Posts: 462 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	More than that, sadly... I got alot of options at around $24,300.

05-12-2002, 06:58 PM	#15
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For the love of God Dragon, shrink your sig!!! Half of this thread has been that bigass pick of your wrx (with a lot of border) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Anyhow, down to business. I don't think anybody could knock the WRX if they knew what they were talking about. $23k for that power and handling is unheard of from any other manufacturer. Needless to say, my (other) sister will be leaving her rex for me to play with for a coupla weeks, and I'll gladly park my s13 for that time. __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

05-12-2002, 07:16 PM	#16
DragonReborn214 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SoCal Age: 45 Posts: 462 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ May 12 2002,11:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For the love of God Dragon, shrink your sig!!! Half of this thread has been that bigass pick of your wrx (with a lot of border) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> There... a little smaller.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

05-12-2002, 07:26 PM	#17
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 41 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Though still not small enough I'm afraid. __________________ Learn everything you can, while you still have the chance.

05-12-2002, 08:19 PM	#18
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 42 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	WRX is way better than the 240SX, stock for stock.  You have to put alot of money to get a 240 at the same level or better than a WRX.  Thats time and alot of patience.  The WRX is a good car and the aftermarket is nice....real nice  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> .  I love does projector lights, and STi wing (WRC wing).  I won't even touch the mechanical upgrades.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Love that car, can't wait tell the STi comes over here.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

05-12-2002, 09:14 PM	#19
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	all i know is i'm behind one WRX by .124 seconds..... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> __________________

05-12-2002, 10:21 PM	#20
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ May 12 2002,6:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The WRX isn't that hyped IMHO, but what do you expect it's the only cheap turbo import that you can buy brand new.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> VW, Golf 1.8t and Jetta 1.8T.. Easily moddable, and in my opinion, better lookin than the wrx.   and the Audi TT has a 220bhp turbo engine (same engine in the VW's but w/ more boost.) __________________

05-12-2002, 11:15 PM	#21
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I often see wrxs on the road... and from constant looking at them i don't see anything special except for a 4wd and a turbo.... there is no beauty in it. So you can call me biased or whatever, but i'd rather turbo my 240... Kre __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

05-12-2002, 11:36 PM	#22
DragonReborn214 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SoCal Age: 45 Posts: 462 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ May 12 2002,4:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">there is no beauty in it</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>                     <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>                     <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>                     <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

05-12-2002, 11:48 PM	#23
sil80 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	WRX's rule................skylines rule, GTI's rule, Renaults rule,..... ooo ya 240s rule... The thing is there are a lot of car that kick ass and all of them get attention so I dont see why you are labelling just the WRX. Being the WRX gives out equal performance if not better then most of the those car but at only 24k there you can see why a lot of people are excited about it. If you put a equally modded(doesnt matter on the amount of mods) S13 and a WRX together the wrx would probably always win... that is unless you were having a drift contest. Well, I dont event know about that cause awd drive drifts are pretty cool. I guess in conclusion I dont see way people need to be negative towards another car for any reason.. __________________ Five degrees of separation - from you and your license 91 240sx SE

05-12-2002, 11:50 PM	#24
FastNissan Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 208 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	From my experience of going to the drag strip I have seen a couple of WRX's with no visible mods, i.e. no exhaust, one put down a 13.4, the other was a sport wagon WRX and it ran 13.6. They are pretty quick cars, and I like the awd for on the dirt, ice and snow.  My first car was a 4wd Subaru, so I am kind of partial to them.

05-13-2002, 02:06 AM	#25
BlackFox Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 534 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Drive a WRX around a corner at 90mph and you'll understand, i can't explain it to you. I was going to get one but i don't have enough money so i got a 240. hehe, Subaru's got a kick ass AWD system and that horozontally opposed engine balances out just like they say.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ Current Cars: 1976 Mercedes Benz 300D 1995 240sx SE aka Kate (winner: Best Stock S14 @ 2002 National Convention) http://community.webshots.com/user/jeff976cal If you're interested in parts email me [email protected]

05-13-2002, 03:16 AM	#26
nismo270r Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lafayette, IN Age: 45 Posts: 715 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I must say...the WRX is one badass car...There's nothing like the sound of a turbo boxer engine...Here's a couple of snaps of my friend's WRX with a CWest body kit, 18" Dronell wheels, and Scooby Sports headlights: I think the body kit looks nice, but I don't care much for it only because I'm a rally fan, and it makes the car look more "GTish". And I still think I like the STI headlights a lot better...Well, actually the WRC headlights would be the coolest...hehe...ALL KABAN FIBAH! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ "Life is a bitch...be it's pimp!" APC = A Piece of Crap =P

05-13-2002, 05:42 AM	#27
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sykikchimp @ May 12 2002,9:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">VW, Golf 1.8t and Jetta 1.8T.. Easily moddable, and in my opinion, better lookin than the wrx. and the Audi TT has a 220bhp turbo engine (same engine in the VW's but w/ more boost.)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Just FYI, the Audi TT Quattro has a 1.8T engine putting out 225hp, with a K04 turbo and twin SMIC setup. The VW 1.8T engines (found in the GTi, Golf and Jetta) put out 180hp and has a 1.8 K03 turbocharged single SMIC setup. I'm not sure if the TT's actually running that much more boost, but the fact that it's got a bigger turbo probably makes up the majority of the larger (225) number. "chipping" (aftermarket ECU that basically bumps the boost to ~1.1 bar) kicks HP and Torque of the VW 1.8T engines to ~ 200hp and 230lb/ft. That's a big jump for a ~550 dollar chip! And yes, that's a LOT of torque! edit: I think that's an ugly body kit... just MHO.  There are other WRX headlights that I prefer to your friends, as well as the WRC ones too... I like the heads on the black soob posted earlier by dragonreborn. soobs are nice. I took a ride in a WRX wagon for a canyon run and I swear, that thing stuck to the road like nothing else! __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

05-13-2002, 06:23 AM	#28
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FastNissan @ May 13 2002,12:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From my experience of going to the drag strip I have seen a couple of WRX's with no visible mods, i.e. no exhaust, one put down a 13.4, the other was a sport wagon WRX and it ran 13.6. They are pretty quick cars, and I like the awd for on the dirt, ice and snow. My first car was a 4wd Subaru, so I am kind of partial to them.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Hmmm if iirc, there are very few mods you really need to turn up the boost if you already got a turbo... and exhaust isn't the easiest nor the most needed one, you can turn up the boost with a stock exhaust.... So there is your explanation.... Kre __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

05-13-2002, 06:27 AM	#29
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DragonReborn214 @ May 13 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ May 12 2002,4:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">there is no beauty in it</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Well I look at it and it's not that bad.... but then i remember the way my 240 looks and a wrx starts looking like crap.... I mean the car isn't ugly, but if you look at it, there is nothing that really catches your eye or excites you about it.... so unless you know it's performance stats, you don't see more than a sedan in it i guess.... after all it does have 4 doors  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> Kre __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

05-13-2002, 07:03 AM	#30
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Okay - First - the sig has GOT to shrink.  That is awful! I stand by my belief that the WRX is one of the ugliest cars on the road today.  It IS a tremendous out of the box value in terms of performance - but so is a Moosetang.  My favorite thing about it is that it is ONE car that had all that JDM hype bs surrounding it that we got - and it sells. As for an SR beating a Rex - I think that is totally possible.  Despite having a hp advantage and more traction off the line, the Subies have MASSIVE parasitic drivetrain loss.  That alone is enough to make the hp/tq numbers about equal.  Given the weight advantage of an s13, I think it is very believable.