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c240sx13 · 12-26-2005, 03:22 PM

so i was wondering.... is it possible to have a TWIN sidemount setup?? intercooler on each side and a 2.75" pipe running through the middle connecting them, could it work?

KiDyNomiTe · 12-26-2005, 03:46 PM

Too much piping, if you feel like going through the effort of custom piping you might as well make a vmount.

AutoKA24DE · 12-26-2005, 09:04 PM

hmm didnt 300zx twin turbos have two sidemounts...but thats a totally different setup, i can see where u get the logic from. i dont know why it would be a "bad" setup, given u have the fabrication ability.

[edit] yes, the extra volume of air to fill up will be detrimental to throttle response.

**mrmephistopheles** · 12-26-2005, 09:16 PM

it'd only be 'bad' in that you're adding alot of restriction and fucking up your flow. That'll lead to bad throttle/boost lag.
In theory it'll be pretty efficient, but at a cost of responsiveness.
You'd be better off welding those two sidemount cores together and creating a custom FMIC.

*Sonic Motor* · 12-26-2005, 09:35 PM

i 2nd that turbo lag =D

Ghettokracker71 · 12-26-2005, 09:46 PM

hmm this reminds me of a very unique setup I saw a long time ago. An early or mid 1990s hyundai elantra hb with a 4g63t swap,and he cut a whole in the hood and mounted two SMIC from a 1g dsm in line right before the TB,pretty nifty

theicecreamdan · 12-26-2005, 09:53 PM

Z32 had twin sidemounts, they also had twin turbo, and two sides so it wasn't any extra piping.

c240sx13 · 12-26-2005, 10:01 PM

hmm so Id have turbo lag up the ass?

**mrmephistopheles** · 12-26-2005, 10:34 PM

not turbo lag, per se.. Your turbo make spool and make boost quick as can be, but your throttle response will suck.
Basically it's more like power lag.
You can floor it, but you won't feel full boost for a second or two.

theicecreamdan · 12-26-2005, 11:15 PM

its like having to inflate two baloons instead of one before you get power.

c240sx13 · 12-27-2005, 05:04 AM

oh... that doesnt seem too bad.... so i can run 12psi on a stock t25 for a while without worrying to get a fmic.... hence one side mount can only handle 9psi daily.... 9 X 2 = 18!! yay

nismoman · 12-27-2005, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c240sx13

oh... that doesnt seem too bad.... so i can run 12psi on a stock t25 for a while without worrying to get a fmic.... hence one side mount can only handle 9psi daily.... 9 X 2 = 18!! yay

I hope you were joking, lol

c240sx13 · 12-27-2005, 06:09 PM

nah... nah i wasnt.... lol

RedtopTech · 12-27-2005, 06:28 PM

well....you would also get twice the pressure drop, the factory side mount will drop1 psi at 9 pounds, having two you would most likely drop at least another half poundalso the LAG would indead be increased do to the increased amount of air that needs to be compressed

harlockssx · 12-28-2005, 08:29 PM

Some guys here who can't afford a FMIC swap the sidemount off of 1JZ Toyotas (Mark 2, Cresta, Chaser, Supra) as it's almost twice as thick & can be had at the junkards for cheap. I realize that doesn't help you much in the US though...

wootwoot · 12-28-2005, 08:52 PM

s15 side mounts are quite larger as well and MrCrystalMeph did a write up on one not to long ago. The work required to do a twin sidemount set up would probably make me want to hit you if I saw it in person.

**mrmephistopheles** · 12-28-2005, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootwoot

s15 side mounts are quite larger as well and MrCrystalMeph did a write up on one not to long ago.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=67606

*Jonnie Fraz* · 12-29-2005, 12:03 AM

Ok if cost is the main factor why not go with a junk yard front mount? IE Ford diesel truck intercooler or even Volvo. The new Sport Compact Car mag has an s14 with a modified Isuzu intercooler on it. Like Mrmephistopeles said weld two together to make one FMIC

12-26-2005, 03:22 PM	#1
c240sx13 BANNED Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	an interesting side mount setup.... so i was wondering.... is it possible to have a TWIN sidemount setup?? intercooler on each side and a 2.75" pipe running through the middle connecting them, could it work?

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KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 38 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Too much piping, if you feel like going through the effort of custom piping you might as well make a vmount. __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

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AutoKA24DE Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 818 California Posts: 176 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hmm didnt 300zx twin turbos have two sidemounts...but thats a totally different setup, i can see where u get the logic from. i dont know why it would be a "bad" setup, given u have the fabrication ability. [edit] yes, the extra volume of air to fill up will be detrimental to throttle response. Last edited by AutoKA24DE; 12-27-2005 at 11:32 AM..

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harlockssx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: APO AP 96367 Age: 52 Posts: 463 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Some guys here who can't afford a FMIC swap the sidemount off of 1JZ Toyotas (Mark 2, Cresta, Chaser, Supra) as it's almost twice as thick & can be had at the junkards for cheap. I realize that doesn't help you much in the US though... __________________ Old School

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Ghettokracker71 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Don't look now... Age: 38 Posts: 3,327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hmm this reminds me of a very unique setup I saw a long time ago. An early or mid 1990s hyundai elantra hb with a 4g63t swap,and he cut a whole in the hood and mounted two SMIC from a 1g dsm in line right before the TB,pretty nifty

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c240sx13 BANNED Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hmm so Id have turbo lag up the ass?

12-27-2005, 05:04 AM	#11
c240sx13 BANNED Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh... that doesnt seem too bad.... so i can run 12psi on a stock t25 for a while without worrying to get a fmic.... hence one side mount can only handle 9psi daily.... 9 X 2 = 18!! yay

12-27-2005, 06:09 PM	#13
c240sx13 BANNED Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nah... nah i wasnt.... lol

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RedtopTech Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Age: 40 Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well....you would also get twice the pressure drop, the factory side mount will drop1 psi at 9 pounds, having two you would most likely drop at least another half poundalso the LAG would indead be increased do to the increased amount of air that needs to be compressed

12-28-2005, 08:52 PM	#16
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	s15 side mounts are quite larger as well and MrCrystalMeph did a write up on one not to long ago. The work required to do a twin sidemount set up would probably make me want to hit you if I saw it in person. __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

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Jonnie Fraz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Age: 56 Posts: 1,371 Trader Rating: (29) Rides Gallery: Jonnie Fraz Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Ok if cost is the main factor why not go with a junk yard front mount? IE Ford diesel truck intercooler or even Volvo. The new Sport Compact Car mag has an s14 with a modified Isuzu intercooler on it. Like Mrmephistopeles said weld two together to make one FMIC __________________ Stealth-Custom-Fab.com