Just got my Powertrix coils in... KTS watch out! - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

BobbyBoy · 09-22-2005, 06:52 PM

I just recieved my set of power trix coilovers for myself and my buddies. I ordered the Ultralite versions while my friend ordered the Race version. For comparison I also have the Super Street version as well
For comparison purposes, I have owned GP Sports GR6, and the SPL KTS coilovers. Plus I have experienced the Silkroad RMA8, Sustec Pro DD, Apexi N1, and Tein SS,HA,HE,HR, and super drifts.
These are my initial impressions for just inspecting the coilovers.

They have a nice solid feel and the brackets and collars look like they will be able handle some abuse.
The anodized finish is excellent, nice color combo.
Comes with dust boots for the piston rods.
Upper pillow ball mounts have thick plates, and are comparable to many others on the market
The coilovers are INVERTED MONOTUBE up front and standard monotube in the rear, just like the KTS I have on my car right now. I think the new Superdrifts are still twintube, and my friend blew one of his on his S14 in less than 1,000 miles. Way to go Tein!
16 levels of dampening adjustable struts, and the adjustment knob feels very study. The GP sports knob was very spongy and imprecise, in other words it felt cheap and quite crappy for a $1600 coilover. The only gripe I had with the KTS adjustment knobs is that both of the knobs cracked up front, and one in the rear. I think the Powertrix adjustment is the best from what I have owned so far.
The sleeve bodies of the struts are coated in something that makes the threading of the collar much much smoother than the KTS, when they were new. The GP sports had the graduated marking on the strut bodies which was a plus for matching ride heights, too bad the collars never like to stay tight, and the locking allen screws would fall out.

The basic versions are Identical to the Race, except there are no camber plates included

From holding the Race and Ultralight verison in each hand you can easily tell the Ultralights weigh well, lighter. Maybe Ill get more scientific later on the exact weights when I do the installs. Any savings on Unsprung weight will help however.

Other than that there is only so much you can tell fron just looking at and holding them. But from my intial impressions I would give the powertrix +1 on build quality
I will be installing these very shortly and will give a review of the driving abilities once installed. Until then, here are the pics.

Buffalo Daughter · 09-22-2005, 06:57 PM

i like the green and black finish.niiiiicce

TurDz · 09-22-2005, 07:00 PM

Wow, the color scheme IS awesome, and they look great. Thanks for the initial impressions and I look forward to hearing about how they ride and perform.

wootwoot · 09-22-2005, 07:03 PM

How about spring rates, where you got them, and soon a driving impression =)

SilviaDriver · 09-22-2005, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootwoot

How about spring rates, where you got them, and soon a driving impression =)

ever care to check the GB or Specials page?

wootwoot · 09-22-2005, 07:14 PM

^^^^ I barely have any money right now so I dont like teasing myself to terribly. Somebody buy my god damn VW please!!!

sw20>>s14 · 09-22-2005, 08:09 PM

they look like real high quality pieces...i was seriously considering these when they surfaced in the GBs, but i already ordered my ddrugs...tell us how they are on the road, i might still consider getting an extra set just cuz im indecisive and dont like to choose

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Ritz S14 · 09-22-2005, 08:18 PM

I'm probably going to get flamed for this but..

The pillow mounts looks exactly like Megan Racing(not that that is a bad thing IMO).

sux 2 b na · 09-22-2005, 09:06 PM

price?????

SilviaDriver · 09-22-2005, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sux 2 b na

price?????

look at my post, #6, it helps to read the entire thread before posting.

SR240DET · 09-22-2005, 09:13 PM

EDIT: whoops my bad.... i heard this from a friend... guess he was wrong..

Ritz S14 · 09-22-2005, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR240DET

AH-HAHHAHAHA those are megan racing coilovers... well........ same exact company.... same exact valving... i forgot the brand name... but its all the same except for color...

power trix has a street version/race version and so does megan.... its pretty obvious at this point..

Megan Racing are 32 way, but these 15 ways adjustables. Also, MRs are not inverted shocks.

upSLIDEdown · 09-22-2005, 09:32 PM

They're not Megans, that's for sure. As said, these don't have as many clicks (good thing), the fronts are inverted, and the ultralites are aluminum bodied. Def not Megan.

Bryan

Ian · 09-22-2005, 10:39 PM

yeah, the megans are in no way, shape or form similar to these (the pillow mounts are close though)

these remind me of the D-Drugs at a glance though

JDMark · 09-22-2005, 10:57 PM

they look really similar to KTS. powertrix is good customer service, intersted to see how these work out

MakotoS13 · 09-22-2005, 11:28 PM

those look exactly the same as my KTS coils aside from the snazzy anodized lime green.

cool, post the price fool.

***FaLKoN240*** · 09-23-2005, 12:00 AM

Yeah, I was about to say. . .after all that where the price at?

drift freaq · 09-23-2005, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakotoS13

those look exactly the same as my KTS coils aside from the snazzy anodized lime green.

cool, post the price fool.

Makoto, the price is in the Group buy section. There is a Group buy for these coilovers.

SilviaDriver · 09-23-2005, 12:10 AM

talk about some forum members forgetting how to read

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=84999

blu808 · 09-23-2005, 12:45 AM

Those look nice bobby. Let me know how they feel.

Btw im finally unpinked after 6 months. It feels really great...

chmercer · 09-23-2005, 12:55 AM

[haterade] where are the zerk fittings? where do i put in the grease?

[/haterade]

NismoSilvia270R · 09-23-2005, 01:06 AM

one thing i like about the silkroads (only coilover ive dealt with so far) is the adjustability of the top spindle bolt. helped me clear different kinds of wheels.

when you get em on, tell about the clearance there.

atom · 09-23-2005, 02:38 AM

Is it just me or do these coilovers (except the ultra-lite version) look very similar to the old Mookeeh MK1 coilovers that used to go for like $700 on ebay? They even have the same specs........

nrg · 09-23-2005, 02:49 AM

these look almost simalar to silkroad

BobbyBoy · 09-23-2005, 03:02 AM

There are only so many different things that go into the pruduction of a coilover, there are only a few components, mainly the struts, springs, pillowball camer plates, collars, and brackets. Biggest thing is the strut, and if you have a monotube setup valved correctly for a decent spring rate, your pretty much set. The only remaining factor is features, build quality, and prestige vs. price.

Build quality is good. All the products I have from Powertrix are great, and so is their service. I think you are getting a hell of a product for the money, but don't let the price fool you, they are quality parts. HKS may have the prestige to back up their products, but for simple parts you are paying out the ass for the name. I am a name brand whore too.

Heck if Powertrix charges twice as much for these coilovers and you guys still buy them, I could guarantee that 20 years later powertrix would be a big name with huge profits and racing pedigree to spend their extra revenues on.

But companies like SPL and powertrix decide that it better for the enthusiasts to be able to afford quality parts and be able to use the money they save for other things.

Keep in mind you can buy brand new powertrix coilovers, tension rods, RUCAs, traction and toe rods, subframe spacers, and new rotors for less than most New big brand JDM coilovers.

MakotoS13 · 09-23-2005, 09:34 AM

all of you guys that are telling us to check the GB page really oughta just suck on a big fat donkey dick. this thread could EASILY display that information and you guys act like people are retarded for glancing it over and not following links, whatever.

stop being a bunch of wannabe mods and fuggin eat it, losers.

420sx · 09-23-2005, 09:50 AM

so..... those coilovers get you more pussy?

wootwoot · 09-23-2005, 09:54 AM

After reading the other thread...ARE these KTS'?

MakotoS13 · 09-23-2005, 10:30 AM

not to mention the ones with the camber plates ARE the same price as KTS coils normally.

????

OptionZero · 09-23-2005, 11:08 AM

unsubstantiated hearsay rumor from source I can't remember (FA?):
Powertrix arms = TC Sportline = ebay?

09-22-2005, 06:52 PM	#1
BobbyBoy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Jose CA Age: 40 Posts: 433 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just got my Powertrix coils in... KTS watch out! I just recieved my set of power trix coilovers for myself and my buddies. I ordered the Ultralite versions while my friend ordered the Race version. For comparison I also have the Super Street version as well For comparison purposes, I have owned GP Sports GR6, and the SPL KTS coilovers. Plus I have experienced the Silkroad RMA8, Sustec Pro DD, Apexi N1, and Tein SS,HA,HE,HR, and super drifts. These are my initial impressions for just inspecting the coilovers. They have a nice solid feel and the brackets and collars look like they will be able handle some abuse. The anodized finish is excellent, nice color combo. Comes with dust boots for the piston rods. Upper pillow ball mounts have thick plates, and are comparable to many others on the market The coilovers are INVERTED MONOTUBE up front and standard monotube in the rear, just like the KTS I have on my car right now. I think the new Superdrifts are still twintube, and my friend blew one of his on his S14 in less than 1,000 miles. Way to go Tein! 16 levels of dampening adjustable struts, and the adjustment knob feels very study. The GP sports knob was very spongy and imprecise, in other words it felt cheap and quite crappy for a $1600 coilover. The only gripe I had with the KTS adjustment knobs is that both of the knobs cracked up front, and one in the rear. I think the Powertrix adjustment is the best from what I have owned so far. The sleeve bodies of the struts are coated in something that makes the threading of the collar much much smoother than the KTS, when they were new. The GP sports had the graduated marking on the strut bodies which was a plus for matching ride heights, too bad the collars never like to stay tight, and the locking allen screws would fall out. The basic versions are Identical to the Race, except there are no camber plates included From holding the Race and Ultralight verison in each hand you can easily tell the Ultralights weigh well, lighter. Maybe Ill get more scientific later on the exact weights when I do the installs. Any savings on Unsprung weight will help however. Other than that there is only so much you can tell fron just looking at and holding them. But from my intial impressions I would give the powertrix +1 on build quality I will be installing these very shortly and will give a review of the driving abilities once installed. Until then, here are the pics. __________________

09-22-2005, 06:57 PM	#2
Buffalo Daughter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In The Depths of MorDor Posts: 764 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i like the green and black finish.niiiiicce __________________ kick rocks.

09-22-2005, 07:00 PM	#3
TurDz Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow, the color scheme IS awesome, and they look great. Thanks for the initial impressions and I look forward to hearing about how they ride and perform. __________________

09-22-2005, 07:03 PM	#4
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How about spring rates, where you got them, and soon a driving impression =) __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

09-22-2005, 08:09 PM	#7
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	they look like real high quality pieces...i was seriously considering these when they surfaced in the GBs, but i already ordered my ddrugs...tell us how they are on the road, i might still consider getting an extra set just cuz im indecisive and dont like to choose ... __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

09-22-2005, 07:14 PM	#6
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^^ I barely have any money right now so I dont like teasing myself to terribly. Somebody buy my god damn VW please!!! __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

09-22-2005, 08:18 PM	#8
Ritz S14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: C A L I F O R N I A Age: 43 Posts: 3,586 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm probably going to get flamed for this but.. The pillow mounts looks exactly like Megan Racing(not that that is a bad thing IMO).

09-22-2005, 09:06 PM	#9
sux 2 b na Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: ghetto Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	price????? __________________ I Pwn Noobs!!!

09-22-2005, 09:13 PM	#11
SR240DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: orida Posts: 1,490 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	EDIT: whoops my bad.... i heard this from a friend... guess he was wrong.. Last edited by SR240DET; 09-22-2005 at 09:39 PM..

09-22-2005, 09:32 PM	#13
upSLIDEdown Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: VA.. And for those that keep PMing me asking what kit I have, it's Origin Stream. Posts: 1,730 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	They're not Megans, that's for sure. As said, these don't have as many clicks (good thing), the fronts are inverted, and the ultralites are aluminum bodied. Def not Megan. Bryan __________________

09-22-2005, 10:57 PM	#15
JDMark Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: redmond, wa Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	they look really similar to KTS. powertrix is good customer service, intersted to see how these work out __________________

09-22-2005, 11:28 PM	#16
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	those look exactly the same as my KTS coils aside from the snazzy anodized lime green. cool, post the price fool.

09-23-2005, 12:00 AM	#17
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	Yeah, I was about to say. . .after all that where the price at? __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

09-23-2005, 12:10 AM	#19
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 40 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	talk about some forum members forgetting how to read http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=84999

09-23-2005, 12:45 AM	#20
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 42 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Those look nice bobby. Let me know how they feel. Btw im finally unpinked after 6 months. It feels really great...

09-23-2005, 12:55 AM	#21
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 39 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	[haterade] where are the zerk fittings? where do i put in the grease? [/haterade]

09-23-2005, 01:06 AM	#22
NismoSilvia270R Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clarksville Age: 39 Posts: 510 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	one thing i like about the silkroads (only coilover ive dealt with so far) is the adjustability of the top spindle bolt. helped me clear different kinds of wheels. when you get em on, tell about the clearance there.

09-23-2005, 02:38 AM	#23
atom Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is it just me or do these coilovers (except the ultra-lite version) look very similar to the old Mookeeh MK1 coilovers that used to go for like $700 on ebay? They even have the same specs........

09-23-2005, 02:49 AM	#24
nrg Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,571 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	these look almost simalar to silkroad __________________ driftingisgay.com Last edited by nrg; 09-23-2005 at 03:33 AM..

09-23-2005, 03:02 AM	#25
BobbyBoy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Jose CA Age: 40 Posts: 433 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There are only so many different things that go into the pruduction of a coilover, there are only a few components, mainly the struts, springs, pillowball camer plates, collars, and brackets. Biggest thing is the strut, and if you have a monotube setup valved correctly for a decent spring rate, your pretty much set. The only remaining factor is features, build quality, and prestige vs. price. Build quality is good. All the products I have from Powertrix are great, and so is their service. I think you are getting a hell of a product for the money, but don't let the price fool you, they are quality parts. HKS may have the prestige to back up their products, but for simple parts you are paying out the ass for the name. I am a name brand whore too. Heck if Powertrix charges twice as much for these coilovers and you guys still buy them, I could guarantee that 20 years later powertrix would be a big name with huge profits and racing pedigree to spend their extra revenues on. But companies like SPL and powertrix decide that it better for the enthusiasts to be able to afford quality parts and be able to use the money they save for other things. Keep in mind you can buy brand new powertrix coilovers, tension rods, RUCAs, traction and toe rods, subframe spacers, and new rotors for less than most New big brand JDM coilovers. __________________

09-23-2005, 09:34 AM	#26
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	all of you guys that are telling us to check the GB page really oughta just suck on a big fat donkey dick. this thread could EASILY display that information and you guys act like people are retarded for glancing it over and not following links, whatever. stop being a bunch of wannabe mods and fuggin eat it, losers.

09-23-2005, 09:50 AM	#27
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so..... those coilovers get you more pussy? __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

09-23-2005, 09:54 AM	#28
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	After reading the other thread...ARE these KTS'? __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

09-23-2005, 10:30 AM	#29
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	not to mention the ones with the camber plates ARE the same price as KTS coils normally. ????

09-23-2005, 11:08 AM	#30
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	unsubstantiated hearsay rumor from source I can't remember (FA?): Powertrix arms = TC Sportline = ebay?