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TokyoNights · 05-05-2004, 11:06 AM

I just installed some t3 ones today and Im geting a shitload of whirring noises coming from the diff among other clunking which I know is normal. I could care less about all the noises but is it gonna wear my diff bearings? when im slowing down or barely pressing the gas it makes this loud whirring noise..anyone else get this noise also? Do these spacers and collars change the pinion angle at all?

thatsmekid · 05-05-2004, 11:46 AM

i'm getting the same nosies...i couldnt figure it out myself...just been driving it that way for the longest time....should we be worried???

Andrew Bohan · 05-05-2004, 12:14 PM

i heard both noises are normal if you have subframe spacers

*HaLo* · 05-05-2004, 12:25 PM

Even with Urethane spacers?

TokyoNights · 05-05-2004, 02:07 PM

well I just drove it around all day and its still doing it,,took it on the highway and it gets more high pitched and annoying,,,
thatsmekid-do you also have the collars with yours that go on top of the bushing also? I was thinking about mabie not using the collars and leaving just the spacers to see if it makes a difference..

Halo-the urethane ones are whiteline correct? those are just the bottom spacer right..

240 2NR · 05-05-2004, 02:13 PM

A little noise should be normal. I really only hear it in the first few minutes of driving while my diff is cold and I'm engine braking in first gear down the hill from my garage. By the time I get to the end of my block I really only hear faint noises. I suppose these noises would be much worse with a performance diff, but I'm still rocking the stock unlimited one.

My guess is there's no adverse effects aside from transmitting a little more noise. They don't seem to relocate anything, just stiffen it up further. Not that I have looked specifically, but I have not come across any posts that say subframe spacers destroyed their driveline in the 3 years I've been on various forums.

Oh, by the way, mine are T3 as well.

TokyoNights · 05-05-2004, 03:18 PM

I bought a j30 vlsd today,, gotta pick it up tomorrow, hopefully it will get rid of the whining.

*HaLo* · 05-05-2004, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikespeed

Halo-the urethane ones are whiteline correct? those are just the bottom spacer right..

That's right. That's what I have... Didn't notice any additional sound with them...

TNathe · 05-06-2004, 02:19 PM

The sub frame spacers take the slop out of the suspension so that when you hit a bump it starts using the suspension right away instead of traveling the gap first, right? If so your sub frame is sitting bottmed out and the noise is maybe just vibration and harmonics coming from any and all moving parts firmly connected to the chassis? It seems to me like more noise would be inevitable, but?

lilredstiffy · 05-06-2004, 02:43 PM

Did you torque them all down correctly?

TokyoNights · 05-06-2004, 04:02 PM

^Yes I torqued them down properly.. Mabie my rear end is bad and these are just amplifying the noise now,,Its all good since Im installing a j30 vlsd this weekend so well see..

andrave · 05-06-2004, 07:28 PM

damn I was gonna get spacers too... oh well.

kuramaya · 01-22-2006, 11:21 PM

its just the pure sound of your diff resonating through the car..no worries

RSP13-Sideways · 01-22-2006, 11:29 PM

I have Powertrix aluminum ones installed and I didn't hear any weird noises before or after they were installed. That's a bit strange...

Dousan_PG · 01-22-2006, 11:47 PM

yeah its normal
u got full interior or no rear seats or something?
you just arent used to it
after a few days it will be 'normal' again.

kuramaya · 01-22-2006, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSP13-Sideways

I have Powertrix aluminum ones installed and I didn't hear any weird noises before or after they were installed. That's a bit strange...

are yours like the 4 piece ones I installed? My write up is in the tech...I like the fact that all the slop is gone and now my suspension is taking all the shock immediately..on launch I have at least 80% less wheel hop..sh1t I hook hard all the way through 3rd now..and sliding the ass out if I want is easier as well..almost effortless..It just feels like I am now more connected...the decel whine, and shit is cool with me..
Late
daryl

dizbjello · 01-23-2006, 12:36 AM

back from the dead

BillKlineVT · 01-23-2006, 03:01 PM

I have the SPL 8-piece spacers and I get the little noises at low speeds slightly accel. and decel. as well... I've always ignored it since the subframe is now metal-on-metal contact with the rest of the car, as opposed to the rubber of the bushing before. People with the Powertrix 4-piece style don't notice the noises as much since they don't have those upper collars transmitting the noise.

SilviaSR20DET · 01-23-2006, 03:36 PM

ya i have the same noise too and i think its normal. i have the 4 piece powertrix subframe spacers as well.

Irukandji · 01-23-2006, 03:46 PM

everything is fine.

the interior noise on my car also got much louder after installing subframe spacers. Don't worry about it.

05-05-2004, 11:06 AM	#1
TokyoNights Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: garage Age: 42 Posts: 1,215 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: TokyoNights Feedback Score: 2 reviews	subframe spacers/collars I just installed some t3 ones today and Im geting a shitload of whirring noises coming from the diff among other clunking which I know is normal. I could care less about all the noises but is it gonna wear my diff bearings? when im slowing down or barely pressing the gas it makes this loud whirring noise..anyone else get this noise also? Do these spacers and collars change the pinion angle at all?

05-05-2004, 11:46 AM	#2
thatsmekid Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rhode Island Age: 44 Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i'm getting the same nosies...i couldnt figure it out myself...just been driving it that way for the longest time....should we be worried??? __________________ why do i spend all my money on a 240sx?

05-05-2004, 12:25 PM	#4
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Even with Urethane spacers? __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

05-05-2004, 02:13 PM	#6
240 2NR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 1,131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A little noise should be normal. I really only hear it in the first few minutes of driving while my diff is cold and I'm engine braking in first gear down the hill from my garage. By the time I get to the end of my block I really only hear faint noises. I suppose these noises would be much worse with a performance diff, but I'm still rocking the stock unlimited one. My guess is there's no adverse effects aside from transmitting a little more noise. They don't seem to relocate anything, just stiffen it up further. Not that I have looked specifically, but I have not come across any posts that say subframe spacers destroyed their driveline in the 3 years I've been on various forums. Oh, by the way, mine are T3 as well. __________________ Steve 93 240sx FB currently very clean and for sale

01-22-2006, 11:21 PM	#13
kuramaya Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 沖縄 , Japan Age: 52 Posts: 1,677 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kuramaya Feedback Score: 1 reviews	its just the pure sound of your diff resonating through the car..no worries __________________ ZEROYON WEBSITE IS HOMO NEW SITE: blacklinux.com/innersanctum/index.php

05-05-2004, 12:14 PM	#3
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i heard both noises are normal if you have subframe spacers

05-05-2004, 02:07 PM	#5
TokyoNights Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: garage Age: 42 Posts: 1,215 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: TokyoNights Feedback Score: 2 reviews	well I just drove it around all day and its still doing it,,took it on the highway and it gets more high pitched and annoying,,, thatsmekid-do you also have the collars with yours that go on top of the bushing also? I was thinking about mabie not using the collars and leaving just the spacers to see if it makes a difference.. Halo-the urethane ones are whiteline correct? those are just the bottom spacer right..

05-05-2004, 03:18 PM	#7
TokyoNights Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: garage Age: 42 Posts: 1,215 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: TokyoNights Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I bought a j30 vlsd today,, gotta pick it up tomorrow, hopefully it will get rid of the whining.

05-06-2004, 02:19 PM	#9
TNathe Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dade City, FL Age: 41 Posts: 173 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The sub frame spacers take the slop out of the suspension so that when you hit a bump it starts using the suspension right away instead of traveling the gap first, right? If so your sub frame is sitting bottmed out and the noise is maybe just vibration and harmonics coming from any and all moving parts firmly connected to the chassis? It seems to me like more noise would be inevitable, but?

05-06-2004, 02:43 PM	#10
lilredstiffy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: louisiana Posts: 618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did you torque them all down correctly?

05-06-2004, 04:02 PM	#11
TokyoNights Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: garage Age: 42 Posts: 1,215 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: TokyoNights Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^Yes I torqued them down properly.. Mabie my rear end is bad and these are just amplifying the noise now,,Its all good since Im installing a j30 vlsd this weekend so well see..

05-06-2004, 07:28 PM	#12
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn I was gonna get spacers too... oh well.

01-22-2006, 11:29 PM	#14
RSP13-Sideways Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Northern California Age: 42 Posts: 850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have Powertrix aluminum ones installed and I didn't hear any weird noises before or after they were installed. That's a bit strange... __________________ - Jay WTB: Nothing at the moment. LEWL WTS: Everything sold, thanks folks!

01-22-2006, 11:47 PM	#15
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	yeah its normal u got full interior or no rear seats or something? you just arent used to it after a few days it will be 'normal' again. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-23-2006, 12:36 AM	#17
dizbjello Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: in the middle of no where (KS) Posts: 99 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	back from the dead __________________

01-23-2006, 03:01 PM	#18
BillKlineVT Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Vermont / Virginia Tech Age: 40 Posts: 175 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have the SPL 8-piece spacers and I get the little noises at low speeds slightly accel. and decel. as well... I've always ignored it since the subframe is now metal-on-metal contact with the rest of the car, as opposed to the rubber of the bushing before. People with the Powertrix 4-piece style don't notice the noises as much since they don't have those upper collars transmitting the noise.

01-23-2006, 03:36 PM	#19
SilviaSR20DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	ya i have the same noise too and i think its normal. i have the 4 piece powertrix subframe spacers as well.

01-23-2006, 03:46 PM	#20
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	everything is fine. the interior noise on my car also got much louder after installing subframe spacers. Don't worry about it.