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BRSTYLE240SX · 06-06-2002, 04:32 AM

could it? the specs on them is the same thing!!! they look very much alike! could ford and mazda be sharing an engine? nways.. im asking this for no real reason... i just heard about this, and im bored and curious! lol... if you don't feel like it.. then dont bother answering.. but if you are as bored as me.. then please help me research! :-D thank you.. buh-bye!

TheTimanator · 06-06-2002, 07:22 AM

Yes they do share the same engine.  Ford and Mazda appearently share a lot of things becuase the Ranger and the Mazda B series pick-up also share many parts.

thewholefnshow · 06-06-2002, 07:48 AM

POST WHORE...

Yes they are the same, I think that ford owns a bunch of mazda or something like that anyways... and they have been sharing engines for ever.

FYI Ford also owns jaguar and the new low model jag has a glorified ford taurus engine in it. Ford owns like 30 companies and they all share engines. While we are at it, The MAtrix and the Vibe share engines too, cause Chevy gave toyota the right to distribute the Cavalier in Japan etc.

Pancor · 06-06-2002, 07:59 AM

The Mazda MX-6 and Ford Probe have always been the exact same car, just with different bodies and interior styling.  Mazdas 2.5 litre KL-03 V6 went in both cars which share the same frame, suspension, etc, the entire platform.   They were built side by side in Flat Rock Michigan, and both were considered domestic cars. (Yes, the MX-6 too...)

The Mazda B series truck and the Ford Ranger are also identical except for minor styling differences.  Same platform, same engines.   As for the Matrix/Vibe, it's actually the Corolla platform with a raised roof and other modifications.   Both engines are Toyota powerplants, as well as the transmissions.  The Vibe is just a Matrix styled by GM.   Toyota and GM have been dealing for a long time, I think ever since they built a plant in California together to build the Geo Prism (rebadged Corrola..).

blaqsilvia · 06-06-2002, 08:30 AM

Thats freaky- I don't want to buy an import car to find out that ford or chevy made the engine.. ieww.. I like the japanese made engines cause they are so well made.. oh well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'>

*sykikchimp* · 06-06-2002, 10:24 AM

the domestic companies used Import Motors they were just built here.  like a bmw plant in SC...  got it?

anyway.. there is a JDM swap for the probe b/c the engines in Japan are better for the MX-6 (go figure)

the 2.5L KL-ZE has 195hp in JDM land

240sxspeedracer1 · 06-06-2002, 12:22 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (blaqsilvia @ June 05 2002,10:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thats freaky- I don't want to buy an import car to find out that ford or chevy made the engine.. ieww.. I like the japanese made engines cause they are so well made.. oh well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
the mx-6 engine is not made by ford.  Actually its the otehr way around.  the probe has its engine made by mazda.  How do I know?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>???
My friend had a ford probe and it says mazda on the engine in the side door panels and shit.

guidot · 06-06-2002, 07:49 PM

MX-6 GT Turbo (87-89) and Probe GT (87-89) had the same 2.2L turbo as well.  Don't race the MX-6 GT, they are scary fast if you are "stock" (intake, mild stuff).  The V6's are slow in comparison.

TheTimanator · 06-06-2002, 07:56 PM

The 87-89's are fast?  I knew they had a turbo model but knew nothing about it.  Do you have any specs?

camppain · 06-06-2002, 09:41 PM

why not ask ford and mazda forums? they have better exp and can handle your ?'s better. or just SEARCH thier forums?

now thats a thought

Silverx240sx · 06-07-2002, 01:47 AM

My brother owns a 95 Probe GT and you may go to http://www.probesnw.net/ for more information.  Actually their group is going down here in Medford, Oregon to run our dragstrip and auto cross.  It would be cool if we can have a 240sx and Probe show-off/match!  Hahahahaha.  J/k.  
Does Nissan have an American counter part?  Because there's:
Toyota & Chevrolet
Mazda & Ford
Mitsubishi & Dodge
Any others?
Thanks.

TJ
'96 S14
Medford, Oregon

rotaryknight · 06-07-2002, 01:51 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (blaqsilvia @ June 06 2002,09:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thats freaky- I don't want to buy an import car to find out that ford or chevy made the engine.. ieww.. I like the japanese made engines cause they are so well made.. oh well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Ahaha the non turbo Mitsu Eclipse i think 95+ were the same motors used in the Dodge Neon.

*SaintlyCharBoy* · 06-07-2002, 05:58 AM

ok guys what about ford owning:
jaguar
ferrari (who is strongly related to maserati)
volvo
aston martin

chevy owning saab

VW owning opel

if i remember correctly chevy also has strong ties to subaru

(the dodge avenger 4cyl had the same motor as the na eclipse)

camppain · 06-07-2002, 10:47 AM

the nissan quest is made by ford...

i hate working on them. damn domestics gotta make shit so complicated! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

TwinTurbo · 06-07-2002, 01:27 PM

The probe and Mx6 are acrualy verry diferent than each other. They have the same engine and verry similar trans with different final drives. There is a whole series of cars with that motor and other variations. Probe, MX6 and 626=KL03, Jspecs have the KL-ZE, lots more power. MX3 GT=KL-08. There are a few more variations but i cant remember there names. Back to the Probe and Mx-6. The suspentions are diffferent using the same hub asembly but thats it. The two cars have totally diferent wheel basses. The probe was set up for more of a sports car desighn and the MX6 has a more luxury feel. The probe was desighned by ford and the MX-6 by mozda. Ford dosnt OWN mozda only 30%. Shit ford even has stock in chevy. But yes ford and mozda do partner up for a lot of projects as do all other car comapanies. Im kinda partial to Dodges new partnership with Mecadez and their new Razor.

guidot · 06-07-2002, 10:55 PM

So you say they are similar but different, just like everyone else has.
The Mazda was actually a lot quicker in the corners than a Probe IMHO.  It had pushbutton suspension settings; equivalent of soft, medium and hard.  The soft setting was harder than my old tracer's stock struts and those things weren't any longer than my forearm!  Massive torque steer in those things, too.  Nothing you want to jump into after being with the 240 for a long period of time.  In a straight line you could lose.  In the twisties, their torque steer would get them in trouble, methinks.

thewholefnshow · 06-08-2002, 05:48 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ June 06 2002,03:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (blaqsilvia @ June 06 2002,09:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thats freaky- I don't want to buy an import car to find out that ford or chevy made the engine.. ieww.. I like the japanese made engines cause they are so well made.. oh well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Ahaha the non turbo Mitsu Eclipse i think 95+ were the same motors used in the Dodge Neon.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
true.. the 420a, or the df... something or other.. but niether company takes credit for the engine really. I spent 2 months with my bro hunting for that answer, and found ou... well that nobody really has an answer 100%. But it is made by DSM so it's american either way, there is nothing really mitsubishi about it... like the old dodge colts and stuff like that that shared engines with the mitsu counterparts.. now if they would have stuck the 2 liter mivec in there, that would have been sweet... 205hp, 168 torque... that would have been a much more fun neon. That is the problem with some of these engines that jump companies... sometimes it is hard to track exactly who did what to the engines.

06-06-2002, 04:32 AM	#1
BRSTYLE240SX Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 229 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	could it? the specs on them is the same thing!!! they look very much alike! could ford and mazda be sharing an engine? nways.. im asking this for no real reason... i just heard about this, and im bored and curious! lol... if you don't feel like it.. then dont bother answering.. but if you are as bored as me.. then please help me research! :-D thank you.. buh-bye! __________________ FS: 92 Coupe w/ AT and 118K miles, Red WB: 91-93 HB w/ MT and <140k miles, any color

06-06-2002, 07:22 AM	#2
TheTimanator Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nashville Age: 41 Posts: 2,535 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: TheTimanator Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yes they do share the same engine.  Ford and Mazda appearently share a lot of things becuase the Ranger and the Mazda B series pick-up also share many parts. __________________ 89 S13 hatch/////98 Subaru 2.5RS

06-06-2002, 08:30 AM	#5
blaqsilvia Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Middletown NJ Age: 42 Posts: 407 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats freaky- I don't want to buy an import car to find out that ford or chevy made the engine.. ieww.. I like the japanese made engines cause they are so well made.. oh well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'> __________________ No 240 right now- looking for another one..

06-06-2002, 10:24 AM	#6
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the domestic companies used Import Motors they were just built here.  like a bmw plant in SC...  got it? anyway.. there is a JDM swap for the probe b/c the engines in Japan are better for the MX-6 (go figure) the 2.5L KL-ZE has 195hp in JDM land __________________

06-06-2002, 12:22 PM	#7
240sxspeedracer1 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: jerzzzz Age: 43 Posts: 494 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (blaqsilvia @ June 05 2002,10:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thats freaky- I don't want to buy an import car to find out that ford or chevy made the engine.. ieww.. I like the japanese made engines cause they are so well made.. oh well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> the mx-6 engine is not made by ford.  Actually its the otehr way around.  the probe has its engine made by mazda.  How do I know?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>??? My friend had a ford probe and it says mazda on the engine in the side door panels and shit. __________________ 92 bmw 325i w/ m3 body kit

06-06-2002, 07:48 AM	#3
thewholefnshow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 672 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	POST WHORE... Yes they are the same, I think that ford owns a bunch of mazda or something like that anyways... and they have been sharing engines for ever. FYI Ford also owns jaguar and the new low model jag has a glorified ford taurus engine in it. Ford owns like 30 companies and they all share engines. While we are at it, The MAtrix and the Vibe share engines too, cause Chevy gave toyota the right to distribute the Cavalier in Japan etc.

06-06-2002, 07:59 AM	#4
Pancor Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 82 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The Mazda MX-6 and Ford Probe have always been the exact same car, just with different bodies and interior styling.  Mazdas 2.5 litre KL-03 V6 went in both cars which share the same frame, suspension, etc, the entire platform.   They were built side by side in Flat Rock Michigan, and both were considered domestic cars. (Yes, the MX-6 too...) The Mazda B series truck and the Ford Ranger are also identical except for minor styling differences.  Same platform, same engines.   As for the Matrix/Vibe, it's actually the Corolla platform with a raised roof and other modifications.   Both engines are Toyota powerplants, as well as the transmissions.  The Vibe is just a Matrix styled by GM.   Toyota and GM have been dealing for a long time, I think ever since they built a plant in California together to build the Geo Prism (rebadged Corrola..).

06-06-2002, 07:49 PM	#8
guidot Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cape Cod, MA Age: 45 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	MX-6 GT Turbo (87-89) and Probe GT (87-89) had the same 2.2L turbo as well.  Don't race the MX-6 GT, they are scary fast if you are "stock" (intake, mild stuff).  The V6's are slow in comparison. __________________ -Jeff T. 96 240SX 240SXONE http://www.240sxone.com

06-06-2002, 07:56 PM	#9
TheTimanator Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nashville Age: 41 Posts: 2,535 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: TheTimanator Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The 87-89's are fast?  I knew they had a turbo model but knew nothing about it.  Do you have any specs? __________________ 89 S13 hatch/////98 Subaru 2.5RS

06-06-2002, 09:41 PM	#10
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why not ask ford and mazda forums? they have better exp and can handle your ?'s better. or just SEARCH thier forums? now thats a thought __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

06-07-2002, 01:47 AM	#11
Silverx240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My brother owns a 95 Probe GT and you may go to http://www.probesnw.net/ for more information.  Actually their group is going down here in Medford, Oregon to run our dragstrip and auto cross.  It would be cool if we can have a 240sx and Probe show-off/match!  Hahahahaha.  J/k.   Does Nissan have an American counter part?  Because there's: Toyota & Chevrolet Mazda & Ford Mitsubishi & Dodge Any others? Thanks. TJ '96 S14 Medford, Oregon __________________ TJ '96 S14 http://www.geocities.com/super240sx

06-07-2002, 01:51 AM	#12
rotaryknight Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 408 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (blaqsilvia @ June 06 2002,09:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thats freaky- I don't want to buy an import car to find out that ford or chevy made the engine.. ieww.. I like the japanese made engines cause they are so well made.. oh well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Ahaha the non turbo Mitsu Eclipse i think 95+ were the same motors used in the Dodge Neon. __________________ Daily Driver- 91 240 SX SE...S13 Blacktop HKS FMIC, EVC IV, W/G, Racing Suction, DP, Dual Drager, springs/pillow ball mounts Whiteline sway bars Tokico blues Koyo Radiator, Fluidyne fan J30 VLSD stock exterior. Fun Car- 94 FD3S (TO4S). The White HKS FD in FnF......may she rest in pieces.

06-07-2002, 05:58 AM	#13
SaintlyCharBoy Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bow, NH Age: 43 Posts: 849 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ok guys what about ford owning: jaguar ferrari (who is strongly related to maserati) volvo aston martin chevy owning saab VW owning opel if i remember correctly chevy also has strong ties to subaru (the dodge avenger 4cyl had the same motor as the na eclipse) __________________ 92 vert - KADE + VH41 + GM MA5 = too many parts in the garage 95 base - retired

06-07-2002, 10:47 AM	#14
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the nissan quest is made by ford... i hate working on them. damn domestics gotta make shit so complicated! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

06-07-2002, 01:27 PM	#15
TwinTurbo Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The probe and Mx6 are acrualy verry diferent than each other. They have the same engine and verry similar trans with different final drives. There is a whole series of cars with that motor and other variations. Probe, MX6 and 626=KL03, Jspecs have the KL-ZE, lots more power. MX3 GT=KL-08. There are a few more variations but i cant remember there names. Back to the Probe and Mx-6. The suspentions are diffferent using the same hub asembly but thats it. The two cars have totally diferent wheel basses. The probe was set up for more of a sports car desighn and the MX6 has a more luxury feel. The probe was desighned by ford and the MX-6 by mozda. Ford dosnt OWN mozda only 30%. Shit ford even has stock in chevy. But yes ford and mozda do partner up for a lot of projects as do all other car comapanies. Im kinda partial to Dodges new partnership with Mecadez and their new Razor. __________________ Nothing To Loose R&D see the sceanary at a blure

06-07-2002, 10:55 PM	#16
guidot Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cape Cod, MA Age: 45 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So you say they are similar but different, just like everyone else has. The Mazda was actually a lot quicker in the corners than a Probe IMHO.  It had pushbutton suspension settings; equivalent of soft, medium and hard.  The soft setting was harder than my old tracer's stock struts and those things weren't any longer than my forearm!  Massive torque steer in those things, too.  Nothing you want to jump into after being with the 240 for a long period of time.  In a straight line you could lose.  In the twisties, their torque steer would get them in trouble, methinks. __________________ -Jeff T. 96 240SX 240SXONE http://www.240sxone.com

06-08-2002, 05:48 AM	#17
thewholefnshow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 672 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ June 06 2002,03:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (blaqsilvia @ June 06 2002,09:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thats freaky- I don't want to buy an import car to find out that ford or chevy made the engine.. ieww.. I like the japanese made engines cause they are so well made.. oh well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Ahaha the non turbo Mitsu Eclipse i think 95+ were the same motors used in the Dodge Neon.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> true.. the 420a, or the df... something or other.. but niether company takes credit for the engine really. I spent 2 months with my bro hunting for that answer, and found ou... well that nobody really has an answer 100%. But it is made by DSM so it's american either way, there is nothing really mitsubishi about it... like the old dodge colts and stuff like that that shared engines with the mitsu counterparts.. now if they would have stuck the 2 liter mivec in there, that would have been sweet... 205hp, 168 torque... that would have been a much more fun neon. That is the problem with some of these engines that jump companies... sometimes it is hard to track exactly who did what to the engines.

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